456 buying questions
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I had mine for over 10 years and still get a twinge on threads like this. However, the kids grew up and it simply wasn't getting used.
There's a pretty comprehensive history in my profile and you'll see some things like leaking shock absorbers come up every few years. Never any major trouble with it though, and the window issue never appeared. It is more of a GT car, but it's surprisingly quick because the feedback is very very good, and it has pretty benign handling- far more so than a mid- or rear-engined car.
There's more room in the back than most 2+2s and it's headroom more than legroom that's the issue. The boot is pretty big and you can fit an umbrella type pushchair and lots of associated kids gubbins in there. Lovely, lovely car.
There's a pretty comprehensive history in my profile and you'll see some things like leaking shock absorbers come up every few years. Never any major trouble with it though, and the window issue never appeared. It is more of a GT car, but it's surprisingly quick because the feedback is very very good, and it has pretty benign handling- far more so than a mid- or rear-engined car.
There's more room in the back than most 2+2s and it's headroom more than legroom that's the issue. The boot is pretty big and you can fit an umbrella type pushchair and lots of associated kids gubbins in there. Lovely, lovely car.
Schermerhorn said:
Dream car of mine.
Wanted one before settling on a BMW M6 V10.
Silly question - what is the mpg like on these monsters? And how big is the fuel tank. I find myself very frustrated at the lack of range in mine - 300miles to a full tank on steady motorway crusing and 12mpg around time.
I get 15mpg most of the time, doesn't matter if you drive in 2nd or 6th - its 15mpg. Fill up is about every 320-340 miles - depending on how brave you are with Italian (Bosch) fuel gauges!Wanted one before settling on a BMW M6 V10.
Silly question - what is the mpg like on these monsters? And how big is the fuel tank. I find myself very frustrated at the lack of range in mine - 300miles to a full tank on steady motorway crusing and 12mpg around time.
Once had 19mpg on a 250 mile mostly motorway run in the UK - was absolutely effortless is covering such a distance, felt like I could have turned it around, and drove straight back.
Schermerhorn said:
Dream car of mine.
Wanted one before settling on a BMW M6 V10.
Silly question - what is the mpg like on these monsters? And how big is the fuel tank. I find myself very frustrated at the lack of range in mine - 300miles to a full tank on steady motorway crusing and 12mpg around time.
Further to Davo's post, I get 16mpg on average in my 550, which basically has the same engine as a 456 just in a different state of tune, with comparable weight etc.Wanted one before settling on a BMW M6 V10.
Silly question - what is the mpg like on these monsters? And how big is the fuel tank. I find myself very frustrated at the lack of range in mine - 300miles to a full tank on steady motorway crusing and 12mpg around time.
Note that the figure above includes all my arsing around getting in/out of London etc. In the "real" world when on a road trip I can easily average 18mpg+. 2.5k or more miles in Norway on the PhN Viking Tour saw that figure easily. And even at an average of 130mph on the autobahn in Germany for few hours on the way home were were getting 17mpg from memory. Best I've ever seen was just shy of 22mpg on a trip up the M6 to Scotland a while back. Averaged about 60mph over 250 miles, pulled over because I thought we were on fumes and the petrol gauge was broken, then was only able to get half a tank of fuel in
The great thing about these type of GT/V12 cars compared to the V8s is that 90% of the time you can just waft around below 2.5k rpm being pretty efficient (in London I pull away in 1st then go immediately to 3rd, no dramas at all, saves petrol and clutch) and for the 10% of the time you want to really wring its neck they're just f*cking mental.
456mgt said:
Lovely, lovely car.
The great thing about these type of GT/V12 cars compared to the V8s is that 90% of the time you can just waft around below 2.5k rpm being pretty efficient (in London I pull away in 1st then go immediately to 3rd, no dramas at all, saves petrol and clutch) and for the 10% of the time you want to really wring its neck they're just f*cking mental.
I couldn't agree more, It's a wonderful car, great to drive slow or fast.The great thing about these type of GT/V12 cars compared to the V8s is that 90% of the time you can just waft around below 2.5k rpm being pretty efficient (in London I pull away in 1st then go immediately to 3rd, no dramas at all, saves petrol and clutch) and for the 10% of the time you want to really wring its neck they're just f*cking mental.
W111AAM said:
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
http://www.forza288.com/ferraris/ferrari-456-3/
pretty sure that's my old car. EXACTLY the same colour combo =, shields, year, the lot... http://www.forza288.com/ferraris/ferrari-456-3/
456mgt said:
W111AAM said:
pretty sure that's my old car. EXACTLY the same colour combo =, shields, year, the lot... ah thats why its a modificato, hence more money than the usual manuals you see about as they seem to be pre modificato's and i am guessing there are more earlier manuals than later ones too? so there would be a rarity variable too?
has anyone looked at or know anything about either
the blue manual at mikes
http://www.rardleymotors.com/docs2/cars/show.php?i...
or the grey one here
http://www.baytreecars.com/current-stock/1995-ferr...
the grey one has being for sale for a while i think....
andy
has anyone looked at or know anything about either
the blue manual at mikes
http://www.rardleymotors.com/docs2/cars/show.php?i...
or the grey one here
http://www.baytreecars.com/current-stock/1995-ferr...
the grey one has being for sale for a while i think....
andy
Andy,
Mike @ Rardleys has sold more 456s than anyone else in the UK - he is the man.
He's also very nice too, even though I didn't get mine from him - always courteous and helpful.
There's a buyer guide on Amazon you can buy - that tell's you most things.
As with any car originally costing £160k+, service history and condition tell you a lot - my simple advice who be to buy the best one you can afford.
If they are cheap, they are cheap for a reason, and certain parts of these cars can be very very expensive to fix.
Some parts can also be very cheap if you know where to look - e.g. new discs and pads all round was £600, rather than the £2.5k Ferrari wanted for exactly the same parts in Ferrari boxes.
I went without the boxes and got them from Brembo. I did miss the boxes, but they weren't value for money at £1900!
Mike @ Rardleys has sold more 456s than anyone else in the UK - he is the man.
He's also very nice too, even though I didn't get mine from him - always courteous and helpful.
There's a buyer guide on Amazon you can buy - that tell's you most things.
As with any car originally costing £160k+, service history and condition tell you a lot - my simple advice who be to buy the best one you can afford.
If they are cheap, they are cheap for a reason, and certain parts of these cars can be very very expensive to fix.
Some parts can also be very cheap if you know where to look - e.g. new discs and pads all round was £600, rather than the £2.5k Ferrari wanted for exactly the same parts in Ferrari boxes.
I went without the boxes and got them from Brembo. I did miss the boxes, but they weren't value for money at £1900!
yep i have being to see mike and i agree he's a top chap, i do think that his cars are priced as a premium though which is fair enough, the two cars that i have mentioned though have a £5k difference which is quite a chunk i think and that £5k would but you a lot or repairs?
i will check them both out and see what they say, in the meantime if anyone knows anything about them please let me know
cheers
i will check them both out and see what they say, in the meantime if anyone knows anything about them please let me know
cheers
andyleeds said:
£5k would buy you a lot of repairs?
cheers
It's very easy to spend that on a Ferrari without even thinking about it. For example, when I needed a new rear window for my 550 because the heating element had packed up, parts alone were over £2K, plus VAT, plus labour.cheers
Don't forget what these cars cost in the first place - the equivalent of around £200K today, I would guess. Cars depreciate, but parts prices don't follow suit!
More than that even, just inflation would take it to 240k. I guess that's in line with the FF now at 250k-260k.
I didn't get on with mine, and I really really wanted to like it. I'd always admired the shape and the style and came close to pulling the trigger a couple of times but was living in Tokyo and it just wasn't practical. So when I moved to the UK I bought a very late one, an '03 manual, and I just found it much too like driving a truck. Sure, a V12 truck, but heavy and lumpen and difficult to manage in town driving. Plus the interior was very basic for a top end car, even for an end of life model.
I still do think they are the future Daytonas though - fabulous styling, early enough not to have too many ECUs to go wrong, lot of OEM parts underneath - but it just didn't swing it for me.
I didn't get on with mine, and I really really wanted to like it. I'd always admired the shape and the style and came close to pulling the trigger a couple of times but was living in Tokyo and it just wasn't practical. So when I moved to the UK I bought a very late one, an '03 manual, and I just found it much too like driving a truck. Sure, a V12 truck, but heavy and lumpen and difficult to manage in town driving. Plus the interior was very basic for a top end car, even for an end of life model.
I still do think they are the future Daytonas though - fabulous styling, early enough not to have too many ECUs to go wrong, lot of OEM parts underneath - but it just didn't swing it for me.
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