Should I buy my friend's 575 ?

Should I buy my friend's 575 ?

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johnnyreggae

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2,946 posts

162 months

Thursday 26th March 2015
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A friend has offered me his 575 - F1 - no FHP - Grey/Silver - just serviced with new MOT - nearly 70 000 miles with a few scars to prove it - bit of dash shrinkage

I've been on a few journey's in it and it drives superbly and looks terrific - very elegant

Should I do it and for what sort of money ?

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Let me know if you don't buy it. I'd imagine it'd have to be less than £40k

clarkei

72 posts

163 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Buy it and enjoy it, don't even worry about the scars................let the car wear them with pride

Mogul

2,941 posts

225 months

Friday 27th March 2015
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Yes.

PS. EUR59k gets you this in LHD. Could be sold as seen though and no idea what the service history is so your mate's car presumably RHD and potentially properly serviced, could still be a good proposition at similar money?

http://www.barcelona.ferraridealers.com/es_es/used...

johnnyreggae

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2,946 posts

162 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Thanks replies so far - I think he's looking nearer £ 50 which may be a bit rich for me but I'll gladly pass on any more thoughts

Soov535

35,829 posts

273 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Mogul said:
Yes.

PS. EUR59k gets you this in LHD. Could be sold as seen though and no idea what the service history is so your mate's car presumably RHD and potentially properly serviced, could still be a good proposition at similar money?

http://www.barcelona.ferraridealers.com/es_es/used...
£43k?!??! Wow.

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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Well, I collected it today. Drove beautifully; feels faster than the Superamerica. Possibly due to the mileage difference? 15,000 versus 67,300? I'm looking forward to increasing the mileage on it. These cars like being driven and they are so every-day friendly.

Really need to sort the garaging situation though. If anyone wants to give me £12k for a mint 70,000 mile (all MOTs to prove) Guards Red/cream pinstripe 944 S2 - 5 owners from new with 1 family owner since 1997...pm me.... :-)

Mogul

2,941 posts

225 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Sounds good. On paper you're down 35bhp but up 60kg in weight vs your SA which is close to a wash so a surprise that it feels faster.

Does the new purchase have a non-standard exhaust?? I would have thought that the louder HGTC exhaust running through straight pipes (on your SA) coupled with the faster HGTC shift times should make that one 'feel' faster, even if it isn't.

Perhaps worth pulling off the various ECU covers at some point to check the ECU serial numbers as fitted as it's possible that some have been replaced over the years and the word on the street is that the later 575M shock absorber ECU #201673 (or #201674 etc) solves the 'wallowy old hector' issues as documented on the earliest cars (which came with the original #183960 shock absorber ECU from the factory).

Any differences at the helm? FHP cars have Hydraulic Steering ECU #175891 which is said to give a noticible improvement in feel (i.e. less assistance) when compared to the non-FHP default #168034 and this is another popular upgrade and it was the only electronic part of the FHP kit.


rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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Mogul said:
Sounds good. On paper you're down 35bhp but up 60kg in weight vs your SA which is close to a wash so a surprise that it feels faster.

Does the new purchase have a non-standard exhaust?? I would have thought that the louder HGTC exhaust running through straight pipes (on your SA) coupled with the faster HGTC shift times should make that one 'feel' faster, even if it isn't.

Perhaps worth pulling off the various ECU covers at some point to check the ECU serial numbers as fitted as it's possible that some have been replaced over the years and the word on the street is that the later 575M shock absorber ECU #201673 (or #201674 etc) solves the 'wallowy old hector' issues as documented on the earliest cars (which came with the original #183960 shock absorber ECU from the factory).

Any differences at the helm? FHP cars have Hydraulic Steering ECU #175891 which is said to give a noticible improvement in feel (i.e. less assistance) when compared to the non-FHP default #168034 and this is another popular upgrade and it was the only electronic part of the FHP kit.
The new car is standard, aside from the steering ECU swap you mention. It doesn't feel at all wallowly, so perhaps it has had the later ECU for the suspension?

On the SA, the exhaust is quiet and the shifts, even in the sport setting, really aren't anything to wrote home about, and this is a car specced with pretty much everything when it was new. I think that the differences are down to the mileages covered. In another 50,000 miles the SA will no doubt feel quick!...

Neither car is anything like as quick as my old Caterham R500. I have yet to drive a car that is though....aside from the development Levante nesrly a decade ago.

Ferruccio

1,838 posts

121 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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johnnyreggae said:
A friend has offered me his 575 - F1 - no FHP - Grey/Silver - just serviced with new MOT - nearly 70 000 miles with a few scars to prove it - bit of dash shrinkage

I've been on a few journey's in it and it drives superbly and looks terrific - very elegant

Should I do it and for what sort of money ?
Never buy a car off a friend would be my view.
If the engine or gear box goes the next day...............

Mogul

2,941 posts

225 months

Monday 13th April 2015
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rubystone said:
In another 50,000 miles the SA will no doubt feel quick!...
If the SA continues to be worth multiples of the what the coupe is worth, the coupe will always feel faster smile !

rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Mogul said:
If the SA continues to be worth multiples of the what the coupe is worth, the coupe will always feel faster smile !
You hit the nail on the head. And that's one of the reasons I bought something that I wouldn't fret about! Your posts are always very astute!

Mogul

2,941 posts

225 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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You could even turn it into something like this...



It would appear that someone has had 90,000kms of fun in it!

Prepared by: http://www.noelracing.com/

http://www.autoscout24.ch/fr/d/ferrari-575m-coupe-...


rubystone

11,254 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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Mogul said:
You could even turn it into something like this...



It would appear that someone has had 90,000kms of fun in it!

Prepared by: http://www.noelracing.com/

http://www.autoscout24.ch/fr/d/ferrari-575m-coupe-...
Link doesn't work...btw I was also offered a 550 lhd a couple of months ago for about £41k

Mogul

2,941 posts

225 months

Tuesday 14th April 2015
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