Discussion
seawise said:
nice, what sort of delivery you expecting - I was told no RHD until back end of q1 2018, so I was going to wait until I have seen a few colour combo's in the flesh prior doing the Atelier.
I was told first RHD cars in build mid 2018 so likely expect to see mine late 2018.Apparently uk order book is closed
There were plenty to see in different colours going down the line.
I went in convinced I wanted grey exterior with cream interior and came out with neither!
Edited by bertie on Tuesday 18th July 15:52
PGN6 said:
Not closed but final allocations not agreed- based on F12 numbers no current orders are guaranteed to be fulfilled. Depends how many people drop out before their car arrives and how many people were speculating!
Interesting...I still feel happier having done my Atellier and having my spec locked in.bertie said:
I was told first RHD cars in build mid 2018 so likely expect to see mine late 2018.
Apparently uk order book is closed
There were plenty to see in different colours going down the line.
I went in convinced I wanted grey exterior with cream interior and came out with neither!
aye, sounds like it will be quite a wait (not that I am fussed to be honest as I am smitten with my F12) - current favourite is Blu Pozzi, or tdf, although I am a big fan of grigio ferro also. saying that I could well be swayed by the helpful lady in Maranello of course.Apparently uk order book is closed
There were plenty to see in different colours going down the line.
I went in convinced I wanted grey exterior with cream interior and came out with neither!
Edited by bertie on Tuesday 18th July 15:52
GusB said:
I generally think for the non "special editions" Ferrari will make as many as they have orders for... then again how many F40s did they make "499" I seem to remember the original plan was for...
Looking forward to a move to the F12 when the 812 arrives...
GusB
They have a limited capacity and he worldwide demand far exceeds the capacity so the dealers do get an allocation Looking forward to a move to the F12 when the 812 arrives...
GusB
I was too late to get on the list for an 812 so now looking to get into an F12 but amazed how they are holding their money. Does anyone know how many have been manufactured in total and in RHD? This is my first foray into Ferrari, cannot wait to get an F12, just selling my AM Vanquish first.
Ferrari will make as many 812s while demand holds. Since it's a superb car, it's going to run for some time yet.
My guess is there will be a LE 812 Spider,which will be in huge demand. Along with the Portofino, the upcoming 488 VS and the rumoured road version of the FXXK, Ferrari is crushing it.
My guess is there will be a LE 812 Spider,which will be in huge demand. Along with the Portofino, the upcoming 488 VS and the rumoured road version of the FXXK, Ferrari is crushing it.
Edited by Camlet on Thursday 14th September 10:49
this is a totally new phenomenon to me having been a serial Aston Martin buyer over the years. There you buy the car, and it depreciates and then when you have saved up enough money you go again. It seems with Ferrari , unless you are very well connected or have bought a large number before ( how?) you cannot get on the list for anything I would want until I am 3/4 years older, but if you can you are pretty much assured of low depreciation motoring. Mind you not many cars seem to get used. I have been offered one F12 with 3 owners and still 2700 miles! Not sure how to go about ever buying a new Fezza! Great cars though.
vanquish spirit said:
Not sure how to go about ever buying a new Fezza!
Just like any other brand: walk into a dealer and talk nicely to the salesman - within a couple of years you could have your own 488 Portofino or Lusso - it sounds like the wait for a new 812 could be a little longervanquish spirit said:
this is a totally new phenomenon to me having been a serial Aston Martin buyer over the years. There you buy the car, and it depreciates and then when you have saved up enough money you go again. It seems with Ferrari , unless you are very well connected or have bought a large number before ( how?) you cannot get on the list for anything I would want until I am 3/4 years older, but if you can you are pretty much assured of low depreciation motoring. Mind you not many cars seem to get used. I have been offered one F12 with 3 owners and still 2700 miles! Not sure how to go about ever buying a new Fezza! Great cars though.
I understand your frustration but Ferrari is a phenomenon. They demand commitment, but with one's commitment (and one's wonga) comes big rewards. It's a power brand; they make amazing cars and they know it. My first ''supercar'' was an Aston. A DB7 Volante to be precise. I love any fabulous car (I've the launch edition of the Apline 110 coming which promises to be a riot) and when I decided to go supercar, my heart was firmly set on a 550 Maranello. It was 1999 and the 550 was the current V12. I had been smitten since its launch. But I just couldn't bring myself to pay 150K + for a new Maranello. It was bloody more than my first house. So I went with the beautiful Aston. A third less money, pretty as a picture and with that Aston badge. 12 months later I had sold the Aston and purchased a one year old 550 (which I still have). The Aston was beautiful but was a compromise in so many ways. It was a third less money but easily with two-thirds less capability.
With the 550, I began a journey. I used a Ferrari main dealer for service (still use the same dealer). They just about took my phone call. That was 17 years ago. Last weekend I was in Maranello displaying one of my Ferrari for the Concorso, at the factory's invitation. It was a remarkable weekend.
Aston Martin has come a long way from my Jag engined DB7. Andy Palmer is a brilliant leader and passionate carmaker. The DB11 is very impressive and a bold development. But open the hood and you still see a big chunk of metal strapped across the top of its engine bay to strengthen the body. Look under the hood of the tdf or 812 and all you see is a mighty V12.
After nearly 20 years I can tell you the Ferrari experience is sublime. Rational and emotional. I have some wonderful cars. Exciting beyond normal. And the dealer calls me back (sometimes lol). Can I still be frustrated, of course! That's Ferrari, there will always be huge demand so long as they make incredible cars. But I believe there is science behind the madness. There is the modus system; I believe customers achieve points based on ownership, service history and other unknown factors probably like age, participation in Ferrari events.....who knows. Like I said, Ferrari is looking for commitment.
For some customers, life is too short and that's perfectly reasonable. It's not a cheap gig either. For others, they dip their toe in the water and they begin a journey which can include the phone call that makes it all worthwhile......''morning mate, good news, you're down for the tdf, so block out your calendar on the following dates as we're off to the factory for the preview''.
Edited by Camlet on Friday 15th September 07:01
Camlet said:
I understand your frustration but Ferrari is a phenomenon. They demand commitment, but with one's commitment (and one's wonga) comes big rewards. It's a power brand; they make amazing cars and they know it.
My first ''supercar'' was an Aston. A DB7 Volante to be precise. I love any fabulous car (I've the launch edition of the Apline 110 coming which promises to be a riot) and when I decided to go supercar, my heart was firmly set on a 550 Maranello. It was 1999 and the 550 was the current V12. I had been smitten since its launch. But I just couldn't bring myself to pay 150K + for a new Maranello. It was bloody more than my first house. So I went with the beautiful Aston. A third less money, pretty as a picture and with that Aston badge. 12 months later I had sold the Aston and purchased a one year old 550 (which I still have). The Aston was beautiful but was a compromise in so many ways. It was a third less money but easily with two-thirds less capability.
With the 550, I began a journey. I used a Ferrari main dealer for service (still use the same dealer). They just about took my phone call. That was 17 years ago. Last weekend I was in Maranello displaying one of my Ferrari for the Concorso, at the factory's invitation. It was a remarkable weekend.
Aston Martin has come a long way from my Jag engined DB7. Andy Palmer is a brilliant leader and passionate carmaker. The DB11 is very impressive and a bold development. But open the hood and you still see a big chunk of metal strapped across the top of its engine bay to strengthen the body. Look under the hood of the tdf or 812 and all you see is a mighty V12.
After nearly 20 years I can tell you the Ferrari experience is sublime. Rational and emotional. I have some wonderful cars. Exciting beyond normal. And the dealer calls me back (sometimes lol). Can I still be frustrated, of course! That's Ferrari, there will always be huge demand so long as they make incredible cars. But I believe there is science behind the madness. There is the modus system; I believe customers achieve points based on ownership, service history and other unknown factors probably like age, participation in Ferrari events.....who knows. Like I said, Ferrari is looking for commitment.
For some customers, life is too short and that's perfectly reasonable. It's not a cheap gig either. For others, they dip their toe in the water and they begin a journey which can include the phone call that makes it all worthwhile......''morning mate, good news, you're down for the tdf, so block out your calendar on the following dates as we're off to the factory for the preview''.
That's a very good description.My first ''supercar'' was an Aston. A DB7 Volante to be precise. I love any fabulous car (I've the launch edition of the Apline 110 coming which promises to be a riot) and when I decided to go supercar, my heart was firmly set on a 550 Maranello. It was 1999 and the 550 was the current V12. I had been smitten since its launch. But I just couldn't bring myself to pay 150K + for a new Maranello. It was bloody more than my first house. So I went with the beautiful Aston. A third less money, pretty as a picture and with that Aston badge. 12 months later I had sold the Aston and purchased a one year old 550 (which I still have). The Aston was beautiful but was a compromise in so many ways. It was a third less money but easily with two-thirds less capability.
With the 550, I began a journey. I used a Ferrari main dealer for service (still use the same dealer). They just about took my phone call. That was 17 years ago. Last weekend I was in Maranello displaying one of my Ferrari for the Concorso, at the factory's invitation. It was a remarkable weekend.
Aston Martin has come a long way from my Jag engined DB7. Andy Palmer is a brilliant leader and passionate carmaker. The DB11 is very impressive and a bold development. But open the hood and you still see a big chunk of metal strapped across the top of its engine bay to strengthen the body. Look under the hood of the tdf or 812 and all you see is a mighty V12.
After nearly 20 years I can tell you the Ferrari experience is sublime. Rational and emotional. I have some wonderful cars. Exciting beyond normal. And the dealer calls me back (sometimes lol). Can I still be frustrated, of course! That's Ferrari, there will always be huge demand so long as they make incredible cars. But I believe there is science behind the madness. There is the modus system; I believe customers achieve points based on ownership, service history and other unknown factors probably like age, participation in Ferrari events.....who knows. Like I said, Ferrari is looking for commitment.
For some customers, life is too short and that's perfectly reasonable. It's not a cheap gig either. For others, they dip their toe in the water and they begin a journey which can include the phone call that makes it all worthwhile......''morning mate, good news, you're down for the tdf, so block out your calendar on the following dates as we're off to the factory for the preview''.
I likened getting to the specials club to a hamster wheel, once you get on you need to keep going (buying new cars) otherwise you just get spat out.
bertie said:
Camlet said:
I understand your frustration but Ferrari is a phenomenon. They demand commitment, but with one's commitment (and one's wonga) comes big rewards. It's a power brand; they make amazing cars and they know it.
My first ''supercar'' was an Aston. A DB7 Volante to be precise. I love any fabulous car (I've the launch edition of the Apline 110 coming which promises to be a riot) and when I decided to go supercar, my heart was firmly set on a 550 Maranello. It was 1999 and the 550 was the current V12. I had been smitten since its launch. But I just couldn't bring myself to pay 150K + for a new Maranello. It was bloody more than my first house. So I went with the beautiful Aston. A third less money, pretty as a picture and with that Aston badge. 12 months later I had sold the Aston and purchased a one year old 550 (which I still have). The Aston was beautiful but was a compromise in so many ways. It was a third less money but easily with two-thirds less capability.
With the 550, I began a journey. I used a Ferrari main dealer for service (still use the same dealer). They just about took my phone call. That was 17 years ago. Last weekend I was in Maranello displaying one of my Ferrari for the Concorso, at the factory's invitation. It was a remarkable weekend.
Aston Martin has come a long way from my Jag engined DB7. Andy Palmer is a brilliant leader and passionate carmaker. The DB11 is very impressive and a bold development. But open the hood and you still see a big chunk of metal strapped across the top of its engine bay to strengthen the body. Look under the hood of the tdf or 812 and all you see is a mighty V12.
After nearly 20 years I can tell you the Ferrari experience is sublime. Rational and emotional. I have some wonderful cars. Exciting beyond normal. And the dealer calls me back (sometimes lol). Can I still be frustrated, of course! That's Ferrari, there will always be huge demand so long as they make incredible cars. But I believe there is science behind the madness. There is the modus system; I believe customers achieve points based on ownership, service history and other unknown factors probably like age, participation in Ferrari events.....who knows. Like I said, Ferrari is looking for commitment.
For some customers, life is too short and that's perfectly reasonable. It's not a cheap gig either. For others, they dip their toe in the water and they begin a journey which can include the phone call that makes it all worthwhile......''morning mate, good news, you're down for the tdf, so block out your calendar on the following dates as we're off to the factory for the preview''.
That's a very good description.My first ''supercar'' was an Aston. A DB7 Volante to be precise. I love any fabulous car (I've the launch edition of the Apline 110 coming which promises to be a riot) and when I decided to go supercar, my heart was firmly set on a 550 Maranello. It was 1999 and the 550 was the current V12. I had been smitten since its launch. But I just couldn't bring myself to pay 150K + for a new Maranello. It was bloody more than my first house. So I went with the beautiful Aston. A third less money, pretty as a picture and with that Aston badge. 12 months later I had sold the Aston and purchased a one year old 550 (which I still have). The Aston was beautiful but was a compromise in so many ways. It was a third less money but easily with two-thirds less capability.
With the 550, I began a journey. I used a Ferrari main dealer for service (still use the same dealer). They just about took my phone call. That was 17 years ago. Last weekend I was in Maranello displaying one of my Ferrari for the Concorso, at the factory's invitation. It was a remarkable weekend.
Aston Martin has come a long way from my Jag engined DB7. Andy Palmer is a brilliant leader and passionate carmaker. The DB11 is very impressive and a bold development. But open the hood and you still see a big chunk of metal strapped across the top of its engine bay to strengthen the body. Look under the hood of the tdf or 812 and all you see is a mighty V12.
After nearly 20 years I can tell you the Ferrari experience is sublime. Rational and emotional. I have some wonderful cars. Exciting beyond normal. And the dealer calls me back (sometimes lol). Can I still be frustrated, of course! That's Ferrari, there will always be huge demand so long as they make incredible cars. But I believe there is science behind the madness. There is the modus system; I believe customers achieve points based on ownership, service history and other unknown factors probably like age, participation in Ferrari events.....who knows. Like I said, Ferrari is looking for commitment.
For some customers, life is too short and that's perfectly reasonable. It's not a cheap gig either. For others, they dip their toe in the water and they begin a journey which can include the phone call that makes it all worthwhile......''morning mate, good news, you're down for the tdf, so block out your calendar on the following dates as we're off to the factory for the preview''.
I likened getting to the specials club to a hamster wheel, once you get on you need to keep going (buying new cars) otherwise you just get spat out.
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