Ferrari unveils new model today
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I know it’s business and from that perspective makes perfect sense but it’s a shame that the underlying motivation of producing these limited edition models is no longer about the cars themselves but simply taking advantage of ultra high net worth individuals that have a compulsion to have to add to their collection.
It’s almost a bit tragic really, and somewhat pathetic.
It’s almost a bit tragic really, and somewhat pathetic.
WDISMYL said:
I know it’s business and from that perspective makes perfect sense but it’s a shame that the underlying motivation of producing these limited edition models is no longer about the cars themselves but simply taking advantage of ultra high net worth individuals that have a compulsion to have to add to their collection.
It’s almost a bit tragic really, and somewhat pathetic.
Ferrari has always sold its cars to high net worth individuals, nothing new there. It's also always been about making money, initially to fund racing.It’s almost a bit tragic really, and somewhat pathetic.
True. But it somehow just feels different.There is now a certain “vulgarity” in their strategy to leverage their heritage to simply “milk” the market.
As I said fairplay to them but there has to be a point where the “Gordon Ramsey’s” of this world pick up the phone from Ferrari and say “ Not another bloody one!”
As I said fairplay to them but there has to be a point where the “Gordon Ramsey’s” of this world pick up the phone from Ferrari and say “ Not another bloody one!”
garyhun said:
Mine definitely have my name on them, so yes we must! 
The black car actually looks nice front that angle but the red car in the opening post is hideous imo.
This might be the best looking car ever ! (competing with Ferrari's of the 50's/60's)The black car actually looks nice front that angle but the red car in the opening post is hideous imo.
And 820 hp V12, perfection !!!
GTrr said:
This might be the best looking car ever ! (competing with Ferrari's of the 50's/60's)
And 820 hp V12, perfection !!!
This!And 820 hp V12, perfection !!!
Ferrari is celebrating the end of a motoring era in style in a hope that these cars are preserved and celebrated in the decades to come. It’s not a coincidence they’re putting their largest, most powerful NA unit in the monza at the same time announcing how they’re steering Ferrari for the future with hybrid power units, suvs etc.
CitySlicker said:
This!
Ferrari is celebrating the end of a motoring era in style in a hope that these cars are preserved and celebrated in the decades to come. It’s not a coincidence they’re putting their largest, most powerful NA unit in the monza at the same time announcing how they’re steering Ferrari for the future with hybrid power units, suvs etc.
Fair point, it could well be a swansong finale for the mighty 12Ferrari is celebrating the end of a motoring era in style in a hope that these cars are preserved and celebrated in the decades to come. It’s not a coincidence they’re putting their largest, most powerful NA unit in the monza at the same time announcing how they’re steering Ferrari for the future with hybrid power units, suvs etc.
Yes but why?
Fanboyism aside (and there seems to be a lot of that on this forum) , why?
Have they been designing cars all along incorrrectly and this is how they should now be in order to extract maximum performance on the track?
This is simply a money extracting exercise from Ferrari PLC. Nothing wrong with that as long as people admit it.
But the car serves no purpose. They stopped making cars like this years ago presumably because downforce was crap?
It is the 812 platform with a different body kit. It might look great but so what? Is that what Ferrari has become? It’s a vulgar money extracting exercise. Design should have functional purpose shouldn’t it and push the boundaries not rehash yesteryear?
Fanboyism aside (and there seems to be a lot of that on this forum) , why?
Have they been designing cars all along incorrrectly and this is how they should now be in order to extract maximum performance on the track?
This is simply a money extracting exercise from Ferrari PLC. Nothing wrong with that as long as people admit it.
But the car serves no purpose. They stopped making cars like this years ago presumably because downforce was crap?
It is the 812 platform with a different body kit. It might look great but so what? Is that what Ferrari has become? It’s a vulgar money extracting exercise. Design should have functional purpose shouldn’t it and push the boundaries not rehash yesteryear?
WDISMYL said:
Yes but why?
Fanboyism aside (and there seems to be a lot of that on this forum) , why?
Have they been designing cars all along incorrrectly and this is how they should now be in order to extract maximum performance on the track?
This is simply a money extracting exercise from Ferrari PLC. Nothing wrong with that as long as people admit it.
But the car serves no purpose. They stopped making cars like this years ago presumably because downforce was crap?
It is the 812 platform with a different body kit. It might look great but so what? Is that what Ferrari has become? It’s a vulgar money extracting exercise. Design should have functional purpose shouldn’t it and push the boundaries not rehash yesteryear?
Are you serious that you have an issue with something being designed merely to look good and that a car has to serve a purpose....? Not everything needs to be designed 'in order to extract maxmimum performance on track' y'know.. and in fact it's exactly this farcical focus on laptimes that has led us to today's cars that are designed to do a couple of laps very quickly but are otherwise far too heavy/costly to run/fix/replace on track and in fact if one then looks closer at the said laptimes that are generating all the hype, it's mainly only the bloody tyres that are producing that kind of improvement. Fanboyism aside (and there seems to be a lot of that on this forum) , why?
Have they been designing cars all along incorrrectly and this is how they should now be in order to extract maximum performance on the track?
This is simply a money extracting exercise from Ferrari PLC. Nothing wrong with that as long as people admit it.
But the car serves no purpose. They stopped making cars like this years ago presumably because downforce was crap?
It is the 812 platform with a different body kit. It might look great but so what? Is that what Ferrari has become? It’s a vulgar money extracting exercise. Design should have functional purpose shouldn’t it and push the boundaries not rehash yesteryear?
Obviously not but surely it depends on how it is marketed? It’s a Ferrari isn’t it? Does relative performance no longer matter?
Everybody should now expect to see a modern 250 GTO produced also in limited numbers. Why not?
And that will probably now go for every other heritage design. Fairplay to them but it is simply a money extracting exercise.
Ferrari always used to be about “win on Sunday, sell on Monday” didn’t it?
Each new generation introduced new technology. I’m not sure what this car is for? Other than bragging rights on the 18th hole at Pebble Beach. (Great course by the way!)
Everybody should now expect to see a modern 250 GTO produced also in limited numbers. Why not?
And that will probably now go for every other heritage design. Fairplay to them but it is simply a money extracting exercise.
Ferrari always used to be about “win on Sunday, sell on Monday” didn’t it?
Each new generation introduced new technology. I’m not sure what this car is for? Other than bragging rights on the 18th hole at Pebble Beach. (Great course by the way!)
Edited by WDISMYL on Friday 21st September 13:16
WDISMYL said:
Design should have functional purpose shouldn’t it
I think you're describing the wrong country.Italian design is not Bauhaus less is more, form follows function. I don't see the problem in creating something attractive that sells.
In fact, Ferrari historically have been quite slow to pick up new technology & automotive design ideas. Injectors, mid engine, the list is long.
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