F12 considerations
Discussion
B3NJY said:
Show me a decent F12 at 140k and I’ll buy it now
Currently the lowest priced F12 is at Nottingham Grey Pauls for £149000, does anyone think there will be a market price adjustment anytime soon. Or does this seem good value?I bet if you try hard enough this will be yours.
I agree ferdi.
Jack-flash said:
DeejRC said:
About 125k autumn ish I think.
You obviously have never owned one , there’s not a chance unless it’s the worse spec worse colour with mega miles on will they hit 458 money Why would they not - front engined V12 Ferraris used to lose a ton of money pre 2012. 550s were available at c. 40k, 599s at below 80k etc. I would be surprised if they don’t hit low 100s or even high double digits over time. People nowadays seem to look at cars like people looked at tech shares in 99/2000 - statement along the lines of it is the new normal, they will never drop, the world has changed etc etc - yeah sure good luck with that
B3NJY said:
I think if the market for the F12 goes down to the 125k mark which I doubt it will then the whole market will have significantly crashed as I believe the F12 is one of the safest options at the moment money wise.
I thought you were happy with £140k, on here showed you it was probably possible..
Now you doubt the £125k figure which has been said is probably the trading figure right now.
Perhaps you should wait until they hit £100k.?
cayman-black said:
I thought you were happy with £140k, on here showed you it was probably possible.
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Now you doubt the £125k figure which has been said is probably the trading figure right now.
Perhaps you should wait until they hit £100k.?
I don’t get what you’re saying? I said that you can’t get a decent one for 140k now and someone said they will be 125k soon and my reply was if they did drop to that and I doubt they will..
Now you doubt the £125k figure which has been said is probably the trading figure right now.
Perhaps you should wait until they hit £100k.?
B3NJY said:
I don’t get what you’re saying? I said that you can’t get a decent one for 140k now and someone said they will be 125k soon and my reply was if they did drop to that and I doubt they will.
Who says you can't get a decent one for 140k?Do you mean there are none advertised at 140k? If so, then I agree, if not, then I suggest you make a few offers & see how that goes...
ferdi p said:
B3NJY said:
I don’t get what you’re saying? I said that you can’t get a decent one for 140k now and someone said they will be 125k soon and my reply was if they did drop to that and I doubt they will.
Who says you can't get a decent one for 140k?Do you mean there are none advertised at 140k? If so, then I agree, if not, then I suggest you make a few offers & see how that goes...
MDL111 said:
I think he already has one, getting a second one would be just greedy ....
I have. All I am saying is at the moment I can’t see you getting a decent one for 140k. After all this is over and the economy does a nose dive you maybe able to. For me the valuation doesn’t bother me as mine is a keeper so values don’t really matter. To be honest if they do take a nose dive it will benefit me as I’m looking for something else. All I’m saying is I believe the F12 is one of the safest bets financially on the supercar front barring your limited edition cars but I agree all will take a hit.But let’s say prices do take a 10/15/20% hit then I won’t be unhappy as it will save me a few quid on my next purchase.
I don’t know what people have managed to get off from Ferrari main dealers but I have always found you can’t get them down much.
B3NJY said:
I have. All I am saying is at the moment I can’t see you getting a decent one for 140k. After all this is over and the economy does a nose dive you maybe able to. For me the valuation doesn’t bother me as mine is a keeper so values don’t really matter. To be honest if they do take a nose dive it will benefit me as I’m looking for something else. All I’m saying is I believe the F12 is one of the safest bets financially on the supercar front barring your limited edition cars but I agree all will take a hit.
But let’s say prices do take a 10/15/20% hit then I won’t be unhappy as it will save me a few quid on my next purchase.
I don’t know what people have managed to get off from Ferrari main dealers but I have always found you can’t get them down much.
I agree about not getting much off in normal times, however some have stock that they just want rid of before the prices take a further tumble. But let’s say prices do take a 10/15/20% hit then I won’t be unhappy as it will save me a few quid on my next purchase.
I don’t know what people have managed to get off from Ferrari main dealers but I have always found you can’t get them down much.
I think a nicely specced 13/14 plate F12 will be 130k soon or possibly less. Phenomenal value for money but after this nightmare is over there will be alot less demand for these types of vehicles imo.
cayman-black said:
My apologies B3NJY i did not realise you already owned one of these special cars.
Talking the market up then
I’m not sure my input has the importance to increase prices yet. Talking the market up then
Like I’ve said in an ideal world prices can dip for me as if an F12 was 125-140k I believe the likes of the 488, Huracans etc would take a bigger percentage dive. Only my thoughts I could be wrong
B3NJY said:
cayman-black said:
My apologies B3NJY i did not realise you already owned one of these special cars.
Talking the market up then
I’m not sure my input has the importance to increase prices yet. Talking the market up then
Like I’ve said in an ideal world prices can dip for me as if an F12 was 125-140k I believe the likes of the 488, Huracans etc would take a bigger percentage dive. Only my thoughts I could be wrong
Didn’t the collecting cars one sell for sub 140k btw in a pretty good spec ? Just saying...
On a more important note. Anybody changed tyres on their f12 before I start a new thread. Seems the MCSS in k2 have been discontinued. And not available in non k spec either.
The MCS4S is available but in non K from size 255 and in k1 spec for rears (that’s the 812 tyre). Write to Michelin but of course the company line is you should not use them. On Ferrari chat they say people have done it and also add non K spec has narrower tread width so to go with 265 and normal K1 315 rear.
Pzero seem to have same issues. With new pzero available in rear k spec but not front. And even older one seems difficult to find in front k spec. Although would really want to avoid refitting older pzero as they are an inferior tyre on all aspects compared to MCSS let alone MCS4S.
Thoughts welcome.
On a more important note. Anybody changed tyres on their f12 before I start a new thread. Seems the MCSS in k2 have been discontinued. And not available in non k spec either.
The MCS4S is available but in non K from size 255 and in k1 spec for rears (that’s the 812 tyre). Write to Michelin but of course the company line is you should not use them. On Ferrari chat they say people have done it and also add non K spec has narrower tread width so to go with 265 and normal K1 315 rear.
Pzero seem to have same issues. With new pzero available in rear k spec but not front. And even older one seems difficult to find in front k spec. Although would really want to avoid refitting older pzero as they are an inferior tyre on all aspects compared to MCSS let alone MCS4S.
Thoughts welcome.
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