612 - Which year to buy?

612 - Which year to buy?

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johnnyreggae

2,939 posts

160 months

Wednesday 26th December 2018
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Its possible that 50 of the 250 UK 612s are black - quite how many would have the chocolate interior is open to question: unicorn alert !

GTMSpyder

104 posts

226 months

Monday 31st December 2018
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I just bought a black/crema 612 OTO from Meridien Modena. Its a 2008 car so must be one of the first facelift cars, but standard with HGT2 (ceramic brakes, sports exhaust, etc).

After looking at the pre-2008 cars I felt they were more basic - the updated infotainment, panoramic roof, manettino and updated switch gear brought it more up to date.

Picking it up in Jan, so very excited!

seastorm

520 posts

202 months

Monday 23rd December 2019
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GTMSpyder said:
I just bought a black/crema 612 OTO from Meridien Modena. Its a 2008 car so must be one of the first facelift cars, but standard with HGT2 (ceramic brakes, sports exhaust, etc).

After looking at the pre-2008 cars I felt they were more basic - the updated infotainment, panoramic roof, manettino and updated switch gear brought it more up to date.

Picking it up in Jan, so very excited!
You've had it a year.... How is it???


Kettmark

903 posts

153 months

Sunday 12th March 2023
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Thread resurection. Anyone will own their 612?

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

199 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Been wanting one forever, just sold the G55 and was thinking let's do it: but we will be going for a G63 instead (yup again a truck) as the 612 is just not practical enough for a family with 2 very active little boys and father (surfing, ski/snowboarding...)

It is aging wonderfully well the 2008-2009 HGTS/HGTC 612...i've looked at a few black/daytona seats ones here in Europe, and what a lovely piece of kit

brogenville

931 posts

201 months

Kettmark

903 posts

153 months

Sunday 9th April 2023
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I saw that on cc and also the video Jayemm made. Very interesting.. Is on my watch list.

Kettmark

903 posts

153 months

Wednesday 12th April 2023
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brogenville said:
Anywhere near your reserve?

brogenville

931 posts

201 months

Thursday 13th April 2023
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It’s a hard car to value right? But I did speak with various dealers who pretty unanimously said they would list it at £80k. The reserve is well under that, but with bidding at £45k right now, it does need to go a fair bit higher to sell.

Kettmark

903 posts

153 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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No sale then. What's plan b?

samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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A high bid of £57,500 equates to a buyer valuing it at £61,640 including CC fees. Based on a quick look at AT and considering the non-originality, and that the auction format makes it relatively tough to arrange a PPI, that feels... not entirely unreasonable?





Kettmark

903 posts

153 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Like many prestige cars, 612s simply aren't selling. I've been following these and ffs for a number of months now and they just sit there and sit there in the classifieds. Just like houses.

samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Friday 14th April 2023
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Kettmark said:
Like many prestige cars, 612s simply aren't selling. I've been following these and ffs for a number of months now and they just sit there and sit there in the classifieds. Just like houses.
I was sceptical, so I went and looked, and you're right.

The average age of the 9 ads on AT is 200 days, so a bit over six months. The oldest is from 2021. And some of those ads may have been renewed, so the URL doesn't necessarily reflect the date that car was actually first listed.

As a comparison, the average URL age for McLaren 570S coupes is 83 days, so just under three months. (Just as a prestige performance car I happen to have the data handy for, not suggesting it's an alternative / rival to a nat-asp V12)

brogenville

931 posts

201 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Plan B? Pistonheads of course!

Arguably CC is a very compromised platform to sell such a niche car with unique modifications. For me, with all the passion and knowledge of the car, it’s frustrating not being able to engage better with bidders. It’s the lazy option though, right?

One thing is for sure- if you want a manual 612, which really is an exceptionally rare car, this is cheapest possible way in, especially for a car that you might want to actually drive.

fk it; if it doesn’t sell I’ll whack some 6-1 headers on it and keep enjoying it for another few years. :-)


samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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brogenville said:
Plan B? Pistonheads of course!

Arguably CC is a very compromised platform to sell such a niche car with unique modifications. For me, with all the passion and knowledge of the car, it’s frustrating not being able to engage better with bidders. It’s the lazy option though, right?

One thing is for sure- if you want a manual 612, which really is an exceptionally rare car, this is cheapest possible way in, especially for a car that you might want to actually drive.

fk it; if it doesn’t sell I’ll whack some 6-1 headers on it and keep enjoying it for another few years. :-)
Yeah, I think if you aren't in a hurry you should be able to get a better price as a private sale where the buyer could (presumably) arrange an inspection, and as you say you can engage with the potential buyers.

It does sound like it must be fun to drive with the manual. FWIW some people also have a strong preference for white cars, so being unique in that regard may help you find a buyer.




brogenville

931 posts

201 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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All inspections welcome. It really is a good example. Plus I can bore anyone talking at length about the conversion process.

Kettmark

903 posts

153 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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brogenville said:
All inspections welcome. It really is a good example. Plus I can bore anyone talking at length about the conversion process.
PM me with what would buy the car please.

jimmyslr

798 posts

273 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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brogenville said:
Plan B? Pistonheads of course!

Arguably CC is a very compromised platform to sell such a niche car with unique modifications. For me, with all the passion and knowledge of the car, it’s frustrating not being able to engage better with bidders. It’s the lazy option though, right?

One thing is for sure- if you want a manual 612, which really is an exceptionally rare car, this is cheapest possible way in, especially for a car that you might want to actually drive.

fk it; if it doesn’t sell I’ll whack some 6-1 headers on it and keep enjoying it for another few years. :-)
I had a manual 612 for some years. It took me an age to sell via a marque specialist c3-4 years ago. The buyer then tried to sell it on CC at least a couple of times and it did eventually sell at the third attempt I think. Nothing wrong with that car, but it’s a super niche market for a 15+ year old, 4 seater, v12 supercar/GT.

I’m often attracted to niche cars that are a little different, but it makes for a very illiquid market when you try to move it on. One sees retail prices of the odd example and imagine that’s where the market is at, but often to shift a car you need to be much lower. I recently had this with a somewhat battered Toyota landcruiser, a well modified Defender and in the past, other than the 612, with a couple of modified Porsches.

I’m passing no opinion on this car at all which looks well done and has the manual box that I loved/chose myself, rather sharing some personal experiences that might be relevant.

brogenville

931 posts

201 months

Saturday 15th April 2023
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Thanks kettmark- will see if I can message you now.

Jimmy- agreed, though I may well regret selling, as this particular niche suits me well, and there isn’t much denim this narrow pond of 4 seater/manual/exotic that interests me.