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MDL111

6,975 posts

178 months

Thursday 19th November 2020
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ANOpax said:
barchetta_boy said:
ANOpax your FF is a lovely spec. Are those F12 wheels on it?
Thank you very much. The wheels are not F12 wheels. They are forged OZ Racing Zeus with a 20/21 stagger.

I wrote a long and detailed post on them over at FChat if you’re interested. But the quick version is this;

F12 wheels aren’t rated for a high enough axle load to be fitted to the FF or Lusso (even though plenty of people do). I wanted to fit the TdF wheels to my FF but they aren’t strong enough. So I spent a lot of time looking for a similar design which would could take the FF's weight. The OZ wheels are half the price of HREs and maintain the Ferrari connection as OZ are a OE supplier to Ferrari and of course, if they’re good enough for the Scuderia then they’re good enough for me!



Those look quite good and sth to think about as my dealer recommended a second set of rims as changing tyres twice a year not great for the tyres (plus obviously takes longer) according to them


Van Dessel

156 posts

59 months

Sunday 22nd November 2020
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It's a bit un-FF granted but it seems some GT price deflation is happening in the V8 Lussos. Has anyone seen this car in the flesh? https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10708452?c...

They've reduced it almost £20 or so. I think it looks very handsome but it is far away from where I am.


Van Dessel

156 posts

59 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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My failing memory initially assumed these 2 were the same car but the grill, leather colour, wheels and carpets are different at second glance:

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10727012?c...

VS.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

That collecting cars model is really well executed - it's not the immediate colour scheme you'd assume for a 4-seat GT but the more you look at the pix the more it harkens back to a really nice F355. Really handsome.





RUNDLL

154 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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Van Dessel said:
My failing memory initially assumed these 2 were the same car but the grill, leather colour, wheels and carpets are different at second glance:

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10727012?c...

VS.

https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

That collecting cars model is really well executed - it's not the immediate colour scheme you'd assume for a 4-seat GT but the more you look at the pix the more it harkens back to a really nice F355. Really handsome.
Yeah the top one caught my eye when it first popped up as on face value it seems good value for year... Until you read it's an import.

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

200 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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RUNDLL said:
Yeah the top one caught my eye when it first popped up as on face value it seems good value for year... Until you read it's an import.
But where from?
I’ve been wondering as it is RHD and doesn’t have any additional side warning lamps.

21ATS

1,100 posts

73 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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911Thrasher said:
But where from?
I’ve been wondering as it is RHD and doesn’t have any additional side warning lamps.
RHD + KMH is probably South Africa.

Import duties and taxes in many of the other RHD countries mean cars rarely leave once they're in.


RUNDLL

154 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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21ATS said:
RHD + KMH is probably South Africa.

Import duties and taxes in many of the other RHD countries mean cars rarely leave once they're in.
Possibly Japan too.

21ATS

1,100 posts

73 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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RUNDLL said:
Possibly Japan too.
Pretty much every Ferrari delivered in Japan is LHD, despite being a RHD country. It carries a certain status driving a LHD car there for a number of reasons.

RUNDLL

154 posts

121 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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21ATS said:
Pretty much every Ferrari delivered in Japan is LHD, despite being a RHD country. It carries a certain status driving a LHD car there for a number of reasons.
Really? Interesting didn't know that but sounds like something they'd do!

21ATS

1,100 posts

73 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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RUNDLL said:
Really? Interesting didn't know that but sounds like something they'd do!
https://drivetribe.com/p/why-are-lhd-cars-so-common-in-japan-XW8Ifhm5SqGgE0zEzJhhSA?iid=OtquaKJjRNa7GhkTtNvyNw

RUNDLL

154 posts

121 months

Sunday 29th November 2020
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21ATS said:
Great read, thanks.
Interesting about the LHD only Lambo too.

RUNDLL

154 posts

121 months

Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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The CC auction linked earlier has begun. I agree with earlier comment re colour; not my first pic for a four seater but it comes together nicely and appears (from photos at least) in good condition.
https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2012-ferrari-f...

Van Dessel

156 posts

59 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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£81.5k with 6 hours left. Might spike to close to £95-97?

Whaddaya guys think?

I love how the Owners Manual is water damaged. Uncle Roger asks who takes Owners Manual in the shower - haaiiya! (sorry, been watching too many Uncle Roger vids)

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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happy if we see it sell in the 80s...as i'll be looking for a black on in Q1
Seriously though, what a V12 and soundtrack for 100k£ ! Amazing

Van Dessel

156 posts

59 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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Yes they are finally looking like really good propositions sub 100k. V8 Lussos were catching my eye but the difference between £140k vs £95k buys you a shed load of gas, PTUs, power warranties, servicing and less depreciation.

It has taken a year to see so many on AT and PH sub £100k which seems the indicate a flattening of the dep. curve.

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

200 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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FF in the 90k£ proposition...why would you buy a 612OTO for the same price?

FF is more roomy, faster and definitely LOUDER, that FF engine screams formula1 sounds

Actually very interested if anyone can justify a late-612 over a FF (i do love the design of the 612 i have to admit, classy)

RUNDLL

154 posts

121 months

Wednesday 9th December 2020
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Sold for £82,383 plus fee. That seems cheap to me and gives me hope that prices may settle a bit more. Although if this was purchased by a dealer, they will continue to bolster the higher prices by listing this in the coming days for £130,000 no doubt.

Edited by RUNDLL on Thursday 10th December 11:19

MDL111

6,975 posts

178 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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That is awesome
Right time of the year to maybe at some point feel the 4wd kicking in/working as well

Calculator

745 posts

216 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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That looks like a great buy, enjoy.

Van Dessel

156 posts

59 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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That interior is bellissimo. To me daytona suits the lux interior GT nature and creates light as do small details like the white rev counter. It looks like the face of a Swiss watch.

Interesting comments about price stability - no-deal Brexit, luxury taxes in the news and everyone bringing forward their dates for phasing out ICEs seems to have created a fair degree of uncertainty.

Funny that Macari have dropped this by 10k. Everyone drops prices when negotiating bilaterally so I was surprised to see them publicly advertise it:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10830502?c...

Number 5 - how did you verify the history re: the attention that has been paid to the tricky bits like the 4RM/PTU and the gearbox etc.?