FF prices

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ThePackMan

60 posts

13 months

Thursday 3rd October
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Why have a V12 when you can have a V24. Nice!

Not Ideal

2,419 posts

135 months

Friday 4th October
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Awesome! Good for you.

Van Dessel

16 posts

5 months

Friday 4th October
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Congrats, it's gorgeous, good for you! Lucky you stopped before reaching the boat-show, the FF should be more usable than a Swan 45 :-)

These things are all about taste and you're right, it was one of the best executed examples out of those available. I don't fully understand the implications of the replaced front tranny, but so long as you are covered then happy days.

I'ts frustrating looking at what's left. Cosmetically some examples are real head-scratchers, like this one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

If I was a goth who liked Marilyn Manson that'd be awesome, but that interior is completely un-livable sans any contrast. Wife wants crema leather...

f1ten

1,881 posts

100 months

Saturday 5th October
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Great purchase and these ffs are damn cool. I think. Probably because the noise and they can handle. I'm not sure I have ever listed after a 612 even though it's a coupe shape.
Splendid lp640 by the way what colour is it?

MDL111

3,939 posts

124 months

Saturday 5th October
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Van Dessel said:
Congrats, it's gorgeous, good for you! Lucky you stopped before reaching the boat-show, the FF should be more usable than a Swan 45 :-)

These things are all about taste and you're right, it was one of the best executed examples out of those available. I don't fully understand the implications of the replaced front tranny, but so long as you are covered then happy days.

I'ts frustrating looking at what's left. Cosmetically some examples are real head-scratchers, like this one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

If I was a goth who liked Marilyn Manson that'd be awesome, but that interior is completely un-livable sans any contrast. Wife wants crema leather...
I think that is a great spec (well maybe with silver rims)
God, they have become cheap

Van Dessel

16 posts

5 months

Monday 7th October
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Suspension lift - what's the skinny on it's usability?

I want to bring the car to the continent often mainly on the Shuttle or sometimes ferry. In anyone's experience do you need the lifter for this assuming stock, non-lowered suspension set up?

I have it in my head that the lifter is a necessary option to have.

Thanks in advance.

ThePackMan

60 posts

13 months

Monday 7th October
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In my opinion it definitely is a must have on the FF or Lusso. As said above the car is long and the overhang from the front wheels to the front spoiler is a lot. Compared to a 458 etc. you really need the lift, or you'll be grounding it in car parks etc. ferry or tunnel is even worse. Good tip with or without a lift, if possible approach the slope at an angle (rather than straight on) until the 2nd front wheel hits the start of the slope, then go up the slope. A ferry car loader told me this and I've used it a lot since. Makes a massive difference to the ground clearance in any car.

MDL111

3,939 posts

124 months

Monday 7th October
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Van Dessel said:
Suspension lift - what's the skinny on it's usability?

I want to bring the car to the continent often mainly on the Shuttle or sometimes ferry. In anyone's experience do you need the lifter for this assuming stock, non-lowered suspension set up?

I have it in my head that the lifter is a necessary option to have.

Thanks in advance.
Eurostar no (of whatever the train is called )
Ferry I don’t know

Edit: I get in and out of most garage fine - the issue is less the front than the long wheelbase
I don’t mind a little scratching and crunching though, it is a car after all
Mine is also rusty (screws on brakes and the mesh) from all the salt
Treat it like a BMW and you are fine, treat it like a piece of art and you will constantly worry

Edited by MDL111 on Monday 7th October 21:08

rosino

1,220 posts

119 months

Monday 14th October
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On the lift option bit... does the car without lift manage to get over London infinite speed bump ?

I never had any issues with my Special (lift was nice to have but managed pretty much anything without) but for example was an absolute must with the GT3...

There seem to be very few FFs out there with the lift option strangely enough.

rumbled

336 posts

180 months

Monday 14th October
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Van Dessel said:
Suspension lift - what's the skinny on it's usability?
I have a 2012 FF without lift and have never needed it. It gets over speed bumps without any trouble and deals with horrible countryside cambers where I live. I don't think I have ever even scuffed the underside. Bear in mind it sits a fair bit higher than the V8's.

TurboTerrific9

402 posts

108 months

Tuesday 15th October
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rumbled said:
Van Dessel said:
Suspension lift - what's the skinny on it's usability?
I have a 2012 FF without lift and have never needed it. It gets over speed bumps without any trouble and deals with horrible countryside cambers where I live. I don't think I have ever even scuffed the underside. Bear in mind it sits a fair bit higher than the V8's.
I had a FF without lift and now have a Lusso with lift and in my opinion it's largely pointless. Neither car is that low.

trowelhead

1,587 posts

68 months

Tuesday 15th October
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catfood12 said:
Gorgeous, enjoy!

Van Dessel

16 posts

5 months

Tuesday 15th October
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Thanks all for the feedback, very useful. So yes, "Le Shuttle" is the brand name of Eurostar's drive-on drive-off car train. It took me a while to pick up on the name. I'm personally not a big ferry fan so not too bothered if it's troublesome to take a FF on a ferry. I hear some owners book the tall carriages which might be wider?

Price-wise it's interesting to see that as FF prices soften fewer and fewer cars come on the market - maybe some owners are underwater and would rather keep on enjoying them?

Those selling the V8 Lussos keep shaving £1k off: £159k, £158k, £157k etc. I must say the dashboard and rear end of the Lusso are very tempting...


rosino

1,220 posts

119 months

Wednesday 16th October
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There's a V12 TDF blue GT4C for 175k and low miles that looks amazing on AT..

I would not be able to stomach the ~60-75k depreciation over the next 3yrs but if I could that would be my pick.. stunning.

MDL111

3,939 posts

124 months

Wednesday 16th October
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rosino said:
There's a V12 TDF blue GT4C for 175k and low miles that looks amazing on AT..

I would not be able to stomach the ~60-75k depreciation over the next 3yrs but if I could that would be my pick.. stunning.
The depreciation on these is rather painful - my FF
First owner paid c 330k euros in 2012
I paid c 180k in 2015 with less than 12k km on the clock
Best guess it is now worth 90k (if that) if I wanted to sell with c 72k km on the clock
I suspect at some point soon it will become pretty much unsellable due to the value/running cost equation and it not really being suitable as a car for first time buyers as they usually want a red, mid-engined 2-seater weekend car

rosino

1,220 posts

119 months

Thursday 17th October
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If people can get over the mileage concern which is outdated and antiquate given how much better built modern Ferraris now are.. i think we might slow down a bit, there's a 15y warranty available now which can give insurance to buyers, and dont forget all these engines might be the last ones built before we start seeing electrification get hold of the last brave still standing..

Sad times when AMG tells you they will also be giving up on their V8 to go for 4cyl hybrids..

pontypool

581 posts

186 months

Friday 18th October
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I htink i did use the lift on the FF, but not really needed. However, would only go in the big carriages, not the normal car ones as too narrow for comfort.

I did also try and beat Clarkson's speed record in the Veyron for driving in a train, but chickedned out at about 40mph!


PS2018

252 posts

20 months

Friday 18th October
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Ant Davidson did 65mph in a Honda NSX inside the Eurotunnel train i believe

rosino

1,220 posts

119 months

Saturday 19th October
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Van Dessel said:
Congrats, it's gorgeous, good for you! Lucky you stopped before reaching the boat-show, the FF should be more usable than a Swan 45 :-)

These things are all about taste and you're right, it was one of the best executed examples out of those available. I don't fully understand the implications of the replaced front tranny, but so long as you are covered then happy days.

I'ts frustrating looking at what's left. Cosmetically some examples are real head-scratchers, like this one: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

If I was a goth who liked Marilyn Manson that'd be awesome, but that interior is completely un-livable sans any contrast. Wife wants crema leather...
There is the blue elettrico one which has a lovely spec.. but I suspect it’s had a full life. Found it in a gumball rally and failed 2 MOTs for worn brake pads which is not particularly reassuring.

Van Dessel

16 posts

5 months

Sunday 20th October
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That electric blue one is strangely put together from a colour coordination perspective. When you looked into it did you hire an independent expert or did you leaf through the history in order to spot the 2 failed MOTs. Thanks.