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Only 10 cars on PH currently and not much coming up. This appears to be a good one if you can buy privately or arrange finance separately https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14471703
4l3x said:
Only 10 cars on PH currently and not much coming up. This appears to be a good one if you can buy privately or arrange finance separately https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14471703
History on that looks good - especially with the warranty. But black/black is just so bland to my eyes. It doesn’t look special at all, and that interior is so boring compared to others I’ve seen. A good buy for someone looking for that colour combo(or lack of) though.W12GT said:
History on that looks good - especially with the warranty. But black/black is just so bland to my eyes. It doesn’t look special at all, and that interior is so boring compared to others I’ve seen. A good buy for someone looking for that colour combo(or lack of) though.
I agree cream/tan leather is nice looking but been there done that, can be a nightmare to keep clean and marks easily from jeans. Reckon black interiors can feel really plush with the right materials. At the end of the day though will always prioritise condition over spec. 4l3x said:
Only 10 cars on PH currently and not much coming up. This appears to be a good one if you can buy privately or arrange finance separately https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14471703
Why does it have no rear badge in some pics and two different set of wheels too?haroonok said:
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/14306576
And was this not for sale privately recently for a lot less than this?
I bought this and pick it up on Monday once I'm home from skiingAnd was this not for sale privately recently for a lot less than this?
jason61c said:
Any owners thinking of selling?
If you're patient, i'll be enjoying mine for another year i reckon, then moving onto something else. Bought March 2021, hasn't missed a beat nor given me any trouble. The only issue is what I get next as a Ferrari V12 is a hard act to follow!
Edited by RUNDLL on Tuesday 31st January 10:33
RUNDLL said:
jason61c said:
Any owners thinking of selling?
If you're patient, i'll be enjoying mine for another year i reckon, then moving onto something else. Bought March 2021, hasn't missed a beat nor given me any trouble. The only issue is what I get next as a Ferrari V12 is a hard act to follow!Edited by RUNDLL on Tuesday 31st January 10:33
So few for sale for a number of reasons from my perspective.
I have no idea what I'd replace it with. Really, other than the Lusso there is nothing like it. So many owners feel the same.
The "elephant in the room" potential PTU failure now has a seeming permanent (upgrade) solution for under £10K, which in Ferrari world is a very sensible costing solution.
They are undervalued right now (IMO of course as I own one!). There's not likely to be anything like them again.
The Lusso is technically and mechanically a "better car" but it lacks some of the soul that the original FF has and I just can't bring myself to like the Lusso as much, which is handy as it's another £70K or so right now for the V12!
When I look at what else is available at around the £100k-£120K mark, there's nothing at all that would tempt me out of this car. Many of them will be very fast German estates that will have prodigous depreciation but lower running costs. None of them are a V12 Ferrari.
It's special, this is my first "supercar" and it's very special, I've yet to have any negative vibes from anyone about it. That said, it's not red, mid engined and I don't drive through London revving it!
Other cars are faster, other cars are more comfortable, other's may be more practical, others are definitely easier to drive in town traffic. It has the turning circle of a yacht and after 5000 miles I'm still nudging things with the front bumper (despite the protests of the parking sensors!) as the bonnet is so absurdly long! I'm spending nearly as much on tyres (lost to pot holes) as I am on fuel! None of the other options though are a Ferrari V12.
There is nothing I'd rather own. That's why there are so few for sale.
I have no idea what I'd replace it with. Really, other than the Lusso there is nothing like it. So many owners feel the same.
The "elephant in the room" potential PTU failure now has a seeming permanent (upgrade) solution for under £10K, which in Ferrari world is a very sensible costing solution.
They are undervalued right now (IMO of course as I own one!). There's not likely to be anything like them again.
The Lusso is technically and mechanically a "better car" but it lacks some of the soul that the original FF has and I just can't bring myself to like the Lusso as much, which is handy as it's another £70K or so right now for the V12!
When I look at what else is available at around the £100k-£120K mark, there's nothing at all that would tempt me out of this car. Many of them will be very fast German estates that will have prodigous depreciation but lower running costs. None of them are a V12 Ferrari.
It's special, this is my first "supercar" and it's very special, I've yet to have any negative vibes from anyone about it. That said, it's not red, mid engined and I don't drive through London revving it!
Other cars are faster, other cars are more comfortable, other's may be more practical, others are definitely easier to drive in town traffic. It has the turning circle of a yacht and after 5000 miles I'm still nudging things with the front bumper (despite the protests of the parking sensors!) as the bonnet is so absurdly long! I'm spending nearly as much on tyres (lost to pot holes) as I am on fuel! None of the other options though are a Ferrari V12.
There is nothing I'd rather own. That's why there are so few for sale.
On the Lusso, they look a little pricey next to the Roma, now.
The newer car is not as practical. But my goodness, it's a looker. Neighbour's son in law has one, in special order green over tan. All the awkwardness in the photos is not there in the metal. It is the best looking Ferrari I have seen in a long time.
I reckon Lussos will come down. This could put pressure on FFs?
The newer car is not as practical. But my goodness, it's a looker. Neighbour's son in law has one, in special order green over tan. All the awkwardness in the photos is not there in the metal. It is the best looking Ferrari I have seen in a long time.
I reckon Lussos will come down. This could put pressure on FFs?
RUNDLL said:
21ATS said:
^ what he said ^
Spot on my friend, my sentiments exactly. I feel I want something two seater next but accept that it won't get used half as much due to the lack of extra seating. But I can't get my 6st Dog in the back of it, or my bike, or more than one other passenger.
So my second choice was the FF and I'm so glad I bought it. It is so much more useable and every drive in it is an event.
What other V12 supercar can do this at anywhere close to the price point?
Harry Flashman said:
On the Lusso, they look a little pricey next to the Roma, now.
The newer car is not as practical. But my goodness, it's a looker. Neighbour's son in law has one, in special order green over tan. All the awkwardness in the photos is not there in the metal. It is the best looking Ferrari I have seen in a long time.
I reckon Lussos will come down. This could put pressure on FFs?
Lusso's were down around the £150k's for the V12 and less for the T. They've gradually crept up over the last 18 months or so to where they are now. I actually think that's why so many FF's were snapped up when they were available.The newer car is not as practical. But my goodness, it's a looker. Neighbour's son in law has one, in special order green over tan. All the awkwardness in the photos is not there in the metal. It is the best looking Ferrari I have seen in a long time.
I reckon Lussos will come down. This could put pressure on FFs?
Like you I think Lusso pricing looks strong...a £70K premium over an FF is quite something. We'll only know in hindsight if they are high or the FF is low.
I also don't think the comparison to a Roma is relevant. I only have interest in V12 Ferrari's I have zero interest in anything else they make from an ownership perspective. Then add 4 seats and a hatchback and the market and buyer pool is very specific for these cars once they are out of the "currency for getting a new halo model" period. Which fundamentally is how most Lusso's were sold, particularly the T.
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