More Ferrari V12s...

[Soleith]

https://edge.media-server.com/mmc/p/jvvjg5k8

From the capital markets day presentation 1hr 14mins 10secs "many more V12's will come in Ferrari's future".

Also, 15 new models in 2023 - 2026. Fingers crossed one of them is an NA V12 non-limited edition...

Edit: Also interesting that they believe that by 2026, ~40% of all the models they make excluding track cars will still be ICE, ~20% by 2030...

Edited by Soleith on Thursday 16th June 18:19

[Bo_apex]

Bugatti and Lamborghini will continue too

https://uk.motor1.com/news/567789/lamborghini-keep...

[blueSL]

I get the impression the V12 has had something of a reprieve, already in the SP3 Daytona, coming in the PuroSangue supposedly. Maybe there is a repladement for the 812 in the plan, will it be hybridised?

I would certainly be interested in a mid-rear engined 12 cylinder car, like the SP3 Daytona but series production. They havent done one like that since the Testarossa which of course was flat-12.

[DeejRC]

I think we would all sell our wives into slavery for one of those Blue!

[the tribester]

Lets hope they're better looking than the last lot of Fezzas.

[Soleith]

blueSL said:

I get the impression the V12 has had something of a reprieve, already in the SP3 Daytona, coming in the PuroSangue supposedly. Maybe there is a repladement for the 812 in the plan, will it be hybridised?

I would certainly be interested in a mid-rear engined 12 cylinder car, like the SP3 Daytona but series production. They havent done one like that since the Testarossa which of course was flat-12.

Tbh I'd probably put a deposit down immediately on any non-SUV V12 series production car they put out whether mid or front engined. Fingers crossed they do something!

[Soleith]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/europea...

Fingers crossed this means Ferrari do another NA V12 non-limited edition...

[garystoybox]

The problem is that Ferrari already build more than 10,000 per year so would have to cut production (and profitability) to qualify.
If they do cut production then new car prices will undoubtedly rise significantly, possibly resulting in strong values will be on older models; which I guess is a good thing?

[Soleith]

garystoybox said:

The problem is that Ferrari already build more than 10,000 per year so would have to cut production (and profitability) to qualify.
If they do cut production then new car prices will undoubtedly rise significantly, possibly resulting in strong values will be on older models; which I guess is a good thing?

Is it stated somewhere in the european reg easing document that a company must continuously build less than 10k/year to have this available to them? I've had a google but can't find much.

[Bo_apex]

garystoybox said:

The problem is that Ferrari already build more than 10,000 per year so would have to cut production (and profitability) to qualify.
If they do cut production then new car prices will undoubtedly rise significantly, possibly resulting in strong values will be on older models; which I guess is a good thing?

Less volume would be a good thing.

Ferrari now has different revenue streams besides actual car production. A good place to be.

[samoht]

garystoybox said:

The problem is that Ferrari already build more than 10,000 per year so would have to cut production (and profitability) to qualify.

It looks like the 10k threshold applies to sales in Europe only, not global sales. Ferrari did what, 11k last year, but I'm sure half of that is outside Europe.

If so, the 10k limit is almost perfectly tailored to allow Ferrari to continue growing their business unrestricted until 2035.