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Yes please 
I'll send you my email.
Great day. The strad was amazing.
So may people came up to me to say how great it sounded !
The only problem I had was that after the third session, the front right tyre went slick on the outside edge due to the high loads so had to take it a bit easy in the afternoon sessions.
The instructor was also loving it and was full of praises for the car feel vs the other models he was instructing on, in terms of feeling, how it was changing direction and how connected it felt even from the passenger side.
I need to try and do another one this year if I can.
I'll send you my email. Great day. The strad was amazing.
So may people came up to me to say how great it sounded !
The only problem I had was that after the third session, the front right tyre went slick on the outside edge due to the high loads so had to take it a bit easy in the afternoon sessions.
The instructor was also loving it and was full of praises for the car feel vs the other models he was instructing on, in terms of feeling, how it was changing direction and how connected it felt even from the passenger side.
I need to try and do another one this year if I can.
Edited by 355fiorano on Thursday 4th May 23:57
Yes please I'll send you my email.
Great day. The strad was amazing.
So may people came up to me to say how great it sounded !
The only problem I had was that after the third session, the front right tyre went slick on the outside edge due to the high loads so had to take it a bit easy in the afternoon sessions.
The instructor was also loving it and was full of praises for the car feel vs the other models he was instructing on, in terms of feeling, how it was changing direction and how connected it felt even from the passenger side.
I need to try and do another one this year if I can.
I'll send you my email. Great day. The strad was amazing.
So may people came up to me to say how great it sounded !
The only problem I had was that after the third session, the front right tyre went slick on the outside edge due to the high loads so had to take it a bit easy in the afternoon sessions.
The instructor was also loving it and was full of praises for the car feel vs the other models he was instructing on, in terms of feeling, how it was changing direction and how connected it felt even from the passenger side.
I need to try and do another one this year if I can.
Edited by 355fiorano on Saturday 6th May 00:11
911Thrasher said:
to Mark: these cars are never cheap to run, from new to old...they are close to 15years old now, I would always expect to spend between 2-3,000£ a year to run them properly, 3-5,000km a year
Here are my last heavy invoices 2013 and 2015...pure maintenance
Enjoy
Car booked in for next week for what I think will be 2.5-3,000£ bill: small service + track rods and front ball joints
You paid for new track rod ends last time ?Here are my last heavy invoices 2013 and 2015...pure maintenance
Enjoy
Car booked in for next week for what I think will be 2.5-3,000£ bill: small service + track rods and front ball joints
Edited by 911Thrasher on Friday 10th March 13:24
Also, if you paid the silly prices these cars go for now you'd surely expect the thing not to need a new exhaust ? Did you buy a duffer ?
Exhaust is fine - if you refer to my Silverstone black flagging it's purely because it's so so loud (over 107dB on fly-bus) they couldn't believe it and thought maybe I was having exhaust failure and didn't want to run the risk of my car turning into a fire ball...so they said
Unfortunately I didn't not have that invoice on me to actually prove to them that the exhaust was actually pretty much new. I think even the Enzo is a little notch below!
This prob the loudest stock Ferrari you'll ever hear! Scuds and Spezs are so so tame compare to Strads
Unfortunately I didn't not have that invoice on me to actually prove to them that the exhaust was actually pretty much new. I think even the Enzo is a little notch below!
This prob the loudest stock Ferrari you'll ever hear! Scuds and Spezs are so so tame compare to Strads
Edited by 911Thrasher on Friday 5th May 22:02
@shazbat sorry buddy I am totally confused by your questions: track rod ends, exhaust?
NOTE: my car is LHD, so km quoted in the invoices
This is an invoice from 2014/2015...it was a pure exemple of what a new owner could expect at some point.
Now the Strad just came back from Service last weekend actually, cost me another £5k for minor service and a couple bits/bobs (rear brake pads, rear calipers reconditioning, front lower ball joints, n/s/f trackrod end (had little play - yes after 3,000km) )
Yes I said replace the trackrod end: why wait? No point of risking damaging other linked parts because there is some movements.
And trust me I've never had anything mechanical. Car has never broken down. Ferraris are just not cheap to run, especially when they age (time wise) - things needs to be done. No point of delaying to the point of failure: prob ends up a lot more expensive.
NOTE: my car is LHD, so km quoted in the invoices
This is an invoice from 2014/2015...it was a pure exemple of what a new owner could expect at some point.
Now the Strad just came back from Service last weekend actually, cost me another £5k for minor service and a couple bits/bobs (rear brake pads, rear calipers reconditioning, front lower ball joints, n/s/f trackrod end (had little play - yes after 3,000km) )
Yes I said replace the trackrod end: why wait? No point of risking damaging other linked parts because there is some movements.
And trust me I've never had anything mechanical. Car has never broken down. Ferraris are just not cheap to run, especially when they age (time wise) - things needs to be done. No point of delaying to the point of failure: prob ends up a lot more expensive.
Edited by 911Thrasher on Friday 5th May 22:25
Just got mine back from service / mot and hugely pleased with the invoice.
Included weeks of testing and ECUs being sent back to Maranelllo for re-flashing, transmission oil change amongst other things.
Total bill of £2200 very acceptable for such a niche piece of kit.
Do all cars feel faster fresh from a service? Time to find out....
Included weeks of testing and ECUs being sent back to Maranelllo for re-flashing, transmission oil change amongst other things.
Total bill of £2200 very acceptable for such a niche piece of kit.
Do all cars feel faster fresh from a service? Time to find out....
911Thrasher said:
@shazbat sorry buddy I am totally confused by your questions: track rod ends, exhaust?
NOTE: my car is LHD, so km quoted in the invoices
This is an invoice from 2014/2015...it was a pure exemple of what a new owner could expect at some point.
Now the Strad just came back from Service last weekend actually, cost me another £5k for minor service and a couple bits/bobs (rear brake pads, rear calipers reconditioning, front lower ball joints, n/s/f trackrod end (had little play - yes after 3,000km) )
Yes I said replace the trackrod end: why wait? No point of risking damaging other linked parts because there is some movements.
And trust me I've never had anything mechanical. Car has never broken down. Ferraris are just not cheap to run, especially when they age (time wise) - things needs to be done. No point of delaying to the point of failure: prob ends up a lot more expensive.
Hill Engineering ball joints and track rod ends last a lot longer than the badly designed Ferrari parts. Even Ferrari Colchester buy them in.NOTE: my car is LHD, so km quoted in the invoices
This is an invoice from 2014/2015...it was a pure exemple of what a new owner could expect at some point.
Now the Strad just came back from Service last weekend actually, cost me another £5k for minor service and a couple bits/bobs (rear brake pads, rear calipers reconditioning, front lower ball joints, n/s/f trackrod end (had little play - yes after 3,000km) )
Yes I said replace the trackrod end: why wait? No point of risking damaging other linked parts because there is some movements.
And trust me I've never had anything mechanical. Car has never broken down. Ferraris are just not cheap to run, especially when they age (time wise) - things needs to be done. No point of delaying to the point of failure: prob ends up a lot more expensive.
Edited by 911Thrasher on Friday 5th May 22:25
911Thrasher said:
@shazbat sorry buddy I am totally confused by your questions: track rod ends, exhaust?
A car doesn't need track rod ends and a new exhuast every year. Those bills look stupidly expensive IMO, even for a Ferrari. Get a better labour rate and fit some remedial parts instead of the silly OE parts with major design flaws.Shazbat said:
A car doesn't need track rod ends and a new exhuast every year. Those bills look stupidly expensive IMO, even for a Ferrari. Get a better labour rate and fit some remedial parts instead of the silly OE parts with major design flaws.
There are sent a new exhaust on....! My cars had a new exhaust on after 49,000km, and the new one is doing fine thanksNote: ball joints, track rod ends on 360,430,599 are consumables, Yes i could get some Hills on, just couldn't be bothered to order them as they could be changed at the same time as my service at the dealership
Edited by 911Thrasher on Sunday 7th May 21:30
Someone I know has the ability to produce a Stradale Spider (16M idea or whatever F1 titles they had in 2003) and I was looking for feedback on the end result.
Now before all the haters kick off a few key points should be made clear that this would be a proper project:
1) There is a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD Stradale available as a donor.
2) There would be a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD spider used as the base car.
3) Every part possible from the donor would be transferred so essentially everything.
4) The base car would likely retain its factory paint colour although repainted and its safe to say that the paint and body work would be 1st class.
The only part that wouldn't be Ferrari on the end result would be the spoiler tail on the rear deck as the donor one is incompatible but this aint a big deal really.
The only benchmark is a the 16M I guess and its not going to get as much as one of those as its not factory but at the same time its going to be as good as or its not worth doing of course.
Unsellable? Value?
Now before all the haters kick off a few key points should be made clear that this would be a proper project:
1) There is a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD Stradale available as a donor.
2) There would be a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD spider used as the base car.
3) Every part possible from the donor would be transferred so essentially everything.
4) The base car would likely retain its factory paint colour although repainted and its safe to say that the paint and body work would be 1st class.
The only part that wouldn't be Ferrari on the end result would be the spoiler tail on the rear deck as the donor one is incompatible but this aint a big deal really.
The only benchmark is a the 16M I guess and its not going to get as much as one of those as its not factory but at the same time its going to be as good as or its not worth doing of course.
Unsellable? Value?
nigelonich said:
Someone I know has the ability to produce a Stradale Spider (16M idea or whatever F1 titles they had in 2003) and I was looking for feedback on the end result.
Now before all the haters kick off a few key points should be made clear that this would be a proper project:
1) There is a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD Stradale available as a donor.
2) There would be a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD spider used as the base car.
3) Every part possible from the donor would be transferred so essentially everything.
4) The base car would likely retain its factory paint colour although repainted and its safe to say that the paint and body work would be 1st class.
The only part that wouldn't be Ferrari on the end result would be the spoiler tail on the rear deck as the donor one is incompatible but this aint a big deal really.
The only benchmark is a the 16M I guess and its not going to get as much as one of those as its not factory but at the same time its going to be as good as or its not worth doing of course.
Unsellable? Value?
very tough to say, but imo value-wise less than the 2 cars individually and likely less than the LHD Stradale on its own - this is not based on merit of the car, but on how fickle Ferrari buyers are - if it is not original, then it can't be good ...Now before all the haters kick off a few key points should be made clear that this would be a proper project:
1) There is a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD Stradale available as a donor.
2) There would be a fully operational, undamaged and genuine LHD spider used as the base car.
3) Every part possible from the donor would be transferred so essentially everything.
4) The base car would likely retain its factory paint colour although repainted and its safe to say that the paint and body work would be 1st class.
The only part that wouldn't be Ferrari on the end result would be the spoiler tail on the rear deck as the donor one is incompatible but this aint a big deal really.
The only benchmark is a the 16M I guess and its not going to get as much as one of those as its not factory but at the same time its going to be as good as or its not worth doing of course.
Unsellable? Value?
I am sure it would be an awesome car to own for somebody who enjoys convertibles though
MDL111 said:
very tough to say, but imo value-wise less than the 2 cars individually and likely less than the LHD Stradale on its own - this is not based on merit of the car, but on how fickle Ferrari buyers are - if it is not original, then it can't be good ...
I am sure it would be an awesome car to own for somebody who enjoys convertibles though
A roof down on a Strad tho........I am sure it would be an awesome car to own for somebody who enjoys convertibles though
My view may not be universal but I do not get super fast or track focused open top cars like the 16M, a Porsche turbo cabrio etc. The engineers lavish research and materials to make a car as light as possible to give the best performance and then you make it a cabrio, reducing rigidity and making it heavier just so you can hear it more. Unless it is designed as a no roof car like the F50 or a Lotus elise, its a contradiction in purposes.
I also fall in the camp that if you mess with a Ferrari / any supercar to make it other than it is, its a kit car so expect the value to plummet. That is not to say that you cannot make a better car than the original but most people you try and sell it to will likely not have the faith/belief that you had the same standards in putting it together vs the manufacturer. Kit car values do very much depend on the reputation of the person that assembles them... although thinking about it, I may be wrong for simpler cars like caterhams that don't seem to be that affected if they were factory assembled or client assembled.
In terms of respect however, hats off to whoever has the guts and the resources to build their own spec super car. My tuning days stopped when I sold my supped up Sierra Cosworth to get my 308 !
I also fall in the camp that if you mess with a Ferrari / any supercar to make it other than it is, its a kit car so expect the value to plummet. That is not to say that you cannot make a better car than the original but most people you try and sell it to will likely not have the faith/belief that you had the same standards in putting it together vs the manufacturer. Kit car values do very much depend on the reputation of the person that assembles them... although thinking about it, I may be wrong for simpler cars like caterhams that don't seem to be that affected if they were factory assembled or client assembled.
In terms of respect however, hats off to whoever has the guts and the resources to build their own spec super car. My tuning days stopped when I sold my supped up Sierra Cosworth to get my 308 !
Seen this in person, looked amazing.
http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/attachment.php?a...
Here is another one, guy did a full write up on Fchat.
https://teamspeed.com/forums/458-430-360/66971-360...
http://www.ferrarilife.com/forums/attachment.php?a...
Here is another one, guy did a full write up on Fchat.
https://teamspeed.com/forums/458-430-360/66971-360...
355fiorano said:
My view may not be universal but I do not get super fast or track focused open top cars like the 16M, a Porsche turbo cabrio etc. The engineers lavish research and materials to make a car as light as possible to give the best performance and then you make it a cabrio, reducing rigidity and making it heavier just so you can hear it more. Unless it is designed as a no roof car like the F50 or a Lotus elise, its a contradiction in purposes.
I also fall in the camp that if you mess with a Ferrari / any supercar to make it other than it is, its a kit car so expect the value to plummet. That is not to say that you cannot make a better car than the original but most people you try and sell it to will likely not have the faith/belief that you had the same standards in putting it together vs the manufacturer. Kit car values do very much depend on the reputation of the person that assembles them... although thinking about it, I may be wrong for simpler cars like caterhams that don't seem to be that affected if they were factory assembled or client assembled.
In terms of respect however, hats off to whoever has the guts and the resources to build their own spec super car. My tuning days stopped when I sold my supped up Sierra Cosworth to get my 308 !
Ive had extended drives of a Strad, Scud, 16M and an F50 and the roof down experience of all that the 16M can offer is great! It just doesnt have the noise of the Strad.....I also fall in the camp that if you mess with a Ferrari / any supercar to make it other than it is, its a kit car so expect the value to plummet. That is not to say that you cannot make a better car than the original but most people you try and sell it to will likely not have the faith/belief that you had the same standards in putting it together vs the manufacturer. Kit car values do very much depend on the reputation of the person that assembles them... although thinking about it, I may be wrong for simpler cars like caterhams that don't seem to be that affected if they were factory assembled or client assembled.
In terms of respect however, hats off to whoever has the guts and the resources to build their own spec super car. My tuning days stopped when I sold my supped up Sierra Cosworth to get my 308 !
nigelonich said:
355fiorano said:
My view may not be universal but I do not get super fast or track focused open top cars like the 16M, a Porsche turbo cabrio etc. The engineers lavish research and materials to make a car as light as possible to give the best performance and then you make it a cabrio, reducing rigidity and making it heavier just so you can hear it more. Unless it is designed as a no roof car like the F50 or a Lotus elise, its a contradiction in purposes.
I also fall in the camp that if you mess with a Ferrari / any supercar to make it other than it is, its a kit car so expect the value to plummet. That is not to say that you cannot make a better car than the original but most people you try and sell it to will likely not have the faith/belief that you had the same standards in putting it together vs the manufacturer. Kit car values do very much depend on the reputation of the person that assembles them... although thinking about it, I may be wrong for simpler cars like caterhams that don't seem to be that affected if they were factory assembled or client assembled.
In terms of respect however, hats off to whoever has the guts and the resources to build their own spec super car. My tuning days stopped when I sold my supped up Sierra Cosworth to get my 308 !
Ive had extended drives of a Strad, Scud, 16M and an F50 and the roof down experience of all that the 16M can offer is great! It just doesnt have the noise of the Strad.....I also fall in the camp that if you mess with a Ferrari / any supercar to make it other than it is, its a kit car so expect the value to plummet. That is not to say that you cannot make a better car than the original but most people you try and sell it to will likely not have the faith/belief that you had the same standards in putting it together vs the manufacturer. Kit car values do very much depend on the reputation of the person that assembles them... although thinking about it, I may be wrong for simpler cars like caterhams that don't seem to be that affected if they were factory assembled or client assembled.
In terms of respect however, hats off to whoever has the guts and the resources to build their own spec super car. My tuning days stopped when I sold my supped up Sierra Cosworth to get my 308 !
- 1: “I have a CS and Enzo. I can drive the CS faster on very tight roads because of the shorter wheelbase, and its sound is more stimulating than the Enzo. I call the CS a "baby Enzo" because it was made at the same time, shares many parts, and does nearly everything the same except acceleration and it's a weaker people magnet. BTW, the people I know who collect Ferraris (i.e., 10 or more cars) MUST have a CS in their collection and the ones I've spoken to say it's one of their favorite Ferraris. It's a great car for the street. The Enzo is a little too powerful for the street as you can't really get into the power for more than a few seconds.”
- 2: “I do have some nice Ferraris and other nice cars.” (including F40, Enzo, CS, Maranello, 365GT4/BB, 512BBm). The CS is as far as I am concerned one of the most fun cars to drive. The European version has a sound that is beyond anything that you can imagine. The American version also has a great sound. Let me put it this way: the CS is more fun to drive than the Enzo and the F40, period, Go for the CS”.. I have driven both cars quite a few times, both on the street and on the race track.” (posted by Emena)
- 3: “I have a CS, GT3 RS, Ruf Turbo R and CGT. I find myself faster in the CS on tight courses because of the paddle shifters, better visibility, and smaller lighter-feeling car. It's really hard work to drive a GT3 RS and CGT as fast, but you can if you want to sweat it. If I want to really show off on the turns, I'll usually choose the CS. It is a Challenge Car for the Street! “
- 4: “I have quite alot of track time in 360 modena, F430, 599 and the CS. The CS wins hands down, it is as fast or faster than a 430 on most tracks and alot, I repeat that, ALOT more fun to drive. It feels much more like a race car and the experience is so much more intense and raw, and the sound...( posted by Jompen)
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