Challenge Stradale thread

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355fiorano

430 posts

243 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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The "old" petrol is 4 weeks old but it is my suspicion that it may be the culprit for the lack of bark or difference between Race and normal.
When I picked the car up from service at DL last month I immediately filled the tank to drive back to London and in this drive the car was not working properly. The car went back last week and they found that everything works. I went there to drive it back again. After a few miles the tank was at 1/3rd so I filled up to 2/3rd and after that the car seemed to come alive more in race but it still has some fuel from the previous fill. I am hoping that if indeed it is the fuel causing this, I will deplete the tank and refill and hopefully get the full beans in race again.

Scooby P1

2,617 posts

230 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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Oh right. You're talking weeks old!
In which case I will look to do the same myself as I'm sure I have some fuel in there older than that. Haven't actually brimmed it in weeks.
How do you empty out the fuel without simply using the car?
Either way, think I need to run it to empty and refill with some Shell to the brim and see what happens.

voicey

2,453 posts

188 months

Wednesday 6th December 2017
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You've not had the cambelts changed recently have you? I've got a regular 360 in which I'm certain has a timing issue (will be making a static timing check tomorrow). Although it runs it doesn't sound right, especially on start up.

355fiorano

430 posts

243 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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Took the CS out a bit this morning for my fix. It really is quite edgy in these damp cold conditions and you have to be very careful with the right foot as it can suddenly kick the back out on the straights when it hits its stride at 4,500+ RPM, if there is uneven grip between the tyres and of course if you provoke it in the corners (which I did not)... can be quite scary !!!

In contrast I took the 355 back to back and the power delivery is so much smoother without the variable valve timing and with the ride being suppler and having more appropriate tyres, it was a much more enjoyable drive when pushing on a bit. I could get the exhaust to bark and use quite a lot more of the power and performance.

That's why I could not really part with either... both are so satisfying in so may different ways smile

P.S BTW The CS's bark was back on start up and it felt like it was opening up properly at 3,800 RPM + but on I cannot yet be sure that its all back to normal as I could not get my right foot anywhere close to the floor ... hopefully next trip out smile


Edited by 355fiorano on Sunday 17th December 13:18


Edited by 355fiorano on Sunday 17th December 13:20

MDL111

6,975 posts

178 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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355fiorano said:
Took the CS out a bit this morning for my fix. It really is quite edgy in these damp cold conditions and you have to be very careful with the right foot as it can suddenly kick the back out on the straights when it hits its stride at 4,500+ RPM, if there is uneven grip between the tyres and of course if you provoke it in the corners (which I did not)... can be quite scary !!!

In contrast I took the 355 back to back and the power delivery is so much smoother without the variable valve timing and with the ride being suppler and having more appropriate tyres, it was a much more enjoyable drive when pushing on a bit. I could get the exhaust to bark and use quite a lot more of the power and performance.

That's why I could not really part with either... both are so satisfying in so may different ways smile

P.S BTW The CS's bark was back on start up and it felt like it was opening up properly at 3,800 RPM + but on I cannot yet be sure that its all back to normal as I could not get my right foot anywhere close to the floor ... hopefully next trip out smile


Edited by 355fiorano on Sunday 17th December 13:18


Edited by 355fiorano on Sunday 17th December 13:20
That is why I love the 355 so much, I need another one, but really want a 355 Challenge .... which I can't afford. It is so annoying that The FF does everything I need, otherwise I could just sell it to buy a Challenge - alas then I would need to drive the Clio most of the time as the Challenge just could not do the job (and let's be honest the Clio can't do the FF's job either ... so I'd have to buy a boring car like a BMW). At least I don't have to worry about allocations, like the Porsche guys ......

madd0g

93 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Anybody know this car ? I'm looking for a Rosso Corsa / Scuderia with factory stipe but it looks good value,
I would appreciate your thoughts please,

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...


355fiorano

430 posts

243 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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I don't know it but it is on the CS registry
http://challenge-stradale.com/137355.html
You could as Mike Law who runs the site for any info he may have.
Also the owner seems to have been on here with the name v8xdm but has not been active for a long time.
I think the previous owner to him is also on pistonheads by the name mpbcs

Edited by 355fiorano on Thursday 4th January 11:55


Edited by 355fiorano on Thursday 4th January 12:01

madd0g

93 posts

183 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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355fiorano said:
I don't know it but it is on the CS registry
http://challenge-stradale.com/137355.html
You could as Mike Law who runs the site for any info he may have.
Thank you, have you got a contact for Mike Law ?

355fiorano

430 posts

243 months

100 IAN

1,091 posts

163 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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I ran mine up to temperature earlier today for probably the 1st time in 2-3 months.

Oh the noise..... love

roygarth

2,673 posts

249 months

Friday 5th January 2018
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madd0g said:
Anybody know this car ? I'm looking for a Rosso Corsa / Scuderia with factory stipe but it looks good value,
I would appreciate your thoughts please,

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Wow, that's a bargain price compared with 18 months ago! RHD prices really have come off, whereas LHD on continent have not. Brexit?

355fiorano

430 posts

243 months

Friday 5th January 2018
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Is it me or does that exhaust back box need changing? Looks a bit rusty round the edges.
Price is definitely good vs last year. Probably would be asking £210k-£220 then

On a sound related note, I just bought myself a sound meter so that I can check how loud mine is and see if there is any hope of doing any track days this year. RMA has stopped doing the unsilenced ones at Donnington ;(


Scooby P1

2,617 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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100 IAN said:
I ran mine up to temperature earlier today for probably the 1st time in 2-3 months.

Oh the noise..... love
Me too last week. Just wanted to take it out of the carcoon and go for a blast but the roads down in Hampshire are so filthy it's just not worth it.
Question - starting it up and ticking over for 10 mins or so to get some heat through the car, is this a good thing to do? Different views on how good sitting at ticker over is.

100 IAN

1,091 posts

163 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Scooby P1 said:
Me too last week. Just wanted to take it out of the carcoon and go for a blast but the roads down in Hampshire are so filthy it's just not worth it.
Question - starting it up and ticking over for 10 mins or so to get some heat through the car, is this a good thing to do? Different views on how good sitting at ticker over is.
Will probably take the Scud out later (& possibly do the Hindhead Tunnel run tomorrow) to give it an airing, but the CS will be staying put until the spring.


AmoCS

1,150 posts

220 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Scooby P1 said:
Me too last week. Just wanted to take it out of the carcoon and go for a blast but the roads down in Hampshire are so filthy it's just not worth it.
Question - starting it up and ticking over for 10 mins or so to get some heat through the car, is this a good thing to do? Different views on how good sitting at ticker over is.
Once you start it and the revs normalise after a minute or two, good to go, just keep it under 4k RPM until oil and engine temp are up to normal degrees.

AmoCS

1,150 posts

220 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Started mine on new years day, with the sports cats, I think I woke up the whole town.

Scooby P1

2,617 posts

230 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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AmoCS said:
Once you start it and the revs normalise after a minute or two, good to go, just keep it under 4k RPM until oil and engine temp are up to normal degrees.
How long does that take? To get all the temps up must take about 25 minutes?!

Tried to put some of those anti tyre flat spot things under the front today. Kept on sliding away when driving onto them. Gave up.

AmoCS

1,150 posts

220 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Scooby P1 said:
How long does that take? To get all the temps up must take about 25 minutes?!

Tried to put some of those anti tyre flat spot things under the front today. Kept on sliding away when driving onto them. Gave up.
Depends on outside temp TBH. Mine is normally up to temp after about 4-5 miles.

roygarth

2,673 posts

249 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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Scooby P1 said:
Question - starting it up and ticking over for 10 mins or so to get some heat through the car, is this a good thing to do? Different views on how good sitting at ticker over is.
I've just bought an R53 Mini Cooper S JCW. Very different car I know.....but in handbook it says do not start up and let it sit at tick over to warm up. Unfortunately it doesn't say why.

355fiorano

430 posts

243 months

Sunday 7th January 2018
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OK we have had this discussion before but has anyone got any definitive numbers of the noise db level of a CS at Donington.

I am told that race cars like 458 GT3's and 458 GTC's are less than 98bb drive by.

I am reluctant to book a track day and be sent home or to have to lift off at the sensors so if anyone has any ballpark drive by numbers that would be very useful.