Challenge Stradale thread

Challenge Stradale thread

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RED110T

367 posts

119 months

Friday 23rd January 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
RED110T said:
Monetary value differences aside, I wouldn't swap my (LHD) CS for a Scud or 16m, no chance, LHD or RHD. For a Speciale, probably, but only because its the current 'new best thing'. In 10-15 years time I think the CS will have so much clear daylight between it and all of the above value wise that even the LHDs will be worth more.
LOL I thought you said "Monetary value differences aside"???????
Ha ha yes indeed, fair point..... Well I brought mine entirely with my heart, but the wife need never know that.... ; )

RED110T

367 posts

119 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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roygarth said:
RED110T said:
Monetary value differences aside, I wouldn't swap my (LHD) CS for a Scud or 16m, no chance, LHD or RHD. For a Speciale, probably, but only because its the current 'new best thing'. In 10-15 years time I think the CS will have so much clear daylight between it and all of the above value wise that even the LHDs will be worth more. The CS is not the quickest and not the most capable but its the original and best (sounding) of the light weight variants (aside from his highness the F40 of course!)......
I agree. I've been through the same 'should I swap for newer' thought process, but I know I'd regret it. Absolute speed is not everything and the looks of the CS are to die for...
I stop and stare at mine every time I see it.... I still can't get my head around the fact that it is based on a 360 which I personally don't find that exciting or attractive (apologies, only my view) yet in Stradale guise it becomes so utterly stunning and purposeful.....

AndrewD

7,538 posts

284 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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nigelonich said:
I hadn't had a look at the CS classifieds for a while but I guess they have broken through £200k now? Have any sold for more yet? That means 16m, scud, strad and 458 spec are all 'about' the same value now for 10k mile-ish cars. NUTS!

I never thought a Stradale would fetch more than an equivalent 16M but it didn't take long to overtake the Scuderia so I guess its going to pass the 16M soon if not already.

Would I straight swap my nero daytona, 15k mile, one owner Stradale for a 16M and would the 16M owner take that swap? Thats a really tough one and would either of us swap for a 458 spec?

Regarding Porsche I follow the 997 GT3 market and its reached a new high this afternoon with a mexico blue RHD 4.0RS at £375k which is around £100k premium on a non standard black or white model really.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
To answer your question about a CS/16M swap, would I swap my 1 owner bianco fuji 16M? No!

Great that both cars have their following. I'd like a CS at some point but will probably buy LHD as the euro slides

Definately personally rate the 458S below these cars. It is too quiet and to me at least really doesn't feel all that special compared to the base car. My 991 GT3 is more fun to drive.



andrew

9,970 posts

192 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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AndrewD said:
nigelonich said:
I hadn't had a look at the CS classifieds for a while but I guess they have broken through £200k now? Have any sold for more yet? That means 16m, scud, strad and 458 spec are all 'about' the same value now for 10k mile-ish cars. NUTS!

I never thought a Stradale would fetch more than an equivalent 16M but it didn't take long to overtake the Scuderia so I guess its going to pass the 16M soon if not already.

Would I straight swap my nero daytona, 15k mile, one owner Stradale for a 16M and would the 16M owner take that swap? Thats a really tough one and would either of us swap for a 458 spec?

Regarding Porsche I follow the 997 GT3 market and its reached a new high this afternoon with a mexico blue RHD 4.0RS at £375k which is around £100k premium on a non standard black or white model really.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...
To answer your question about a CS/16M swap, would I swap my 1 owner bianco fuji 16M? No!

Great that both cars have their following. I'd like a CS at some point but will probably buy LHD as the euro slides

Definately personally rate the 458S below these cars. It is too quiet and to me at least really doesn't feel all that special compared to the base car. My 991 GT3 is more fun to drive.


458s definitely needs livening up with a carbon fibre filler gap biggrin

RED110T

367 posts

119 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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AndrewD said:
nigelonich said:
I hadn't had a look at the CS classifieds for a while but I guess they have broken through £200k now? Have any sold for more yet? That means 16m, scud, strad and 458 spec are all 'about' the same value now for 10k mile-ish cars. NUTS!

I never thought a Stradale would fetch more than an equivalent 16M but it didn't take long to overtake the Scuderia so I guess its going to pass the 16M soon if not already.

Would I straight swap my nero daytona, 15k mile, one owner Stradale for a 16M and would the 16M owner take that swap? Thats a really tough one and would either of us swap for a 458 spec?

Regarding Porsche I follow the 997 GT3 market and its reached a new high this afternoon with a mexico blue RHD 4.0RS at £375k which is around £100k premium on a non standard black or white model really.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

Good point on the Euro but I'd move quickly as arbitrage opportunites don't always stick around that long - there will still be plenty of non EUR buyers chasing the now cheaper cars meaning the price in EUR will also nudge up
To answer your question about a CS/16M swap, would I swap my 1 owner bianco fuji 16M? No!

Great that both cars have their following. I'd like a CS at some point but will probably buy LHD as the euro slides

Definately personally rate the 458S below these cars. It is too quiet and to me at least really doesn't feel all that special compared to the base car. My 991 GT3 is more fun to drive.


AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Where have all the European CS's gone?

mobile.de and autoscout24.de are virtually empty.

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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AmoCS said:
Where have all the European CS's gone?

mobile.de and autoscout24.de are virtually empty.
I noticed that just yesterday smile

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Thursday 26th February 2015
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Funny, there are more LHD's in UK for sale than Europe. biggrin

gt500nick

960 posts

138 months

Friday 27th February 2015
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AmoCS said:
Funny, there are more LHD's in UK for sale than Europe. biggrin
and there is your answer

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Tuesday 7th April 2015
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AdvocatusD

2,277 posts

231 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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They are asking £200k for it. Good luck to them if they get it.

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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AdvocatusD said:
They are asking £200k for it. Good luck to them if they get it.
With less rare F40's at £800k, I'd say that's a snip!

Slickhillsy

1,772 posts

143 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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roygarth said:
With less rare F40's at £800k, I'd say that's a snip!
CS is no F40!!!

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
roygarth said:
With less rare F40's at £800k, I'd say that's a snip!
CS is no F40!!!
I know! But its more than 25%! lol smile

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Slickhillsy said:
roygarth said:
With less rare F40's at £800k, I'd say that's a snip!
CS is no F40!!!
Quote from an owner on F-chat (F40-R) who owns - F40, F50, 250, 308, 328, 355, 360 CS, 430 Scud, 430 GT3 and a Dino 246.

"I'll be honest the Stradale has as they say more soul, no other car is as raw, as loud and a pleasure to drive. I don't like saying it but I have nearly all of them and that is my choice."

http://www.clubstradale.com/challenge-stradale-own...

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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AmoCS said:
After reading that they looking like a real bargain at 25% cost of F40!

reedman

588 posts

194 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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roygarth said:
With less rare F40's at £800k, I'd say that's a snip!
That car sold last year for 129K I think.

DAB964RS

214 posts

167 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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reedman said:
That car sold last year for 129K I think.
You're correct it was advertised at ~£129k when it came to the UK last summer. Prior to coming to the UK it had been advertised by a Ferrari dealership in Munich Saggio Gmbh IIRC - their asking price was €129,000. What difference a year makes!

I've been told SCoM are asking £175,000 - seems a bit optimistic for LHD ?

AmoCS

1,150 posts

219 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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reedman said:
roygarth said:
With less rare F40's at £800k, I'd say that's a snip!
That car sold last year for 129K I think.
Is it this one?

http://www.clubstradale.com/post1336.html#p1336

roygarth

2,673 posts

248 months

Sunday 12th April 2015
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DAB964RS said:
reedman said:
That car sold last year for 129K I think.
You're correct it was advertised at ~£129k when it came to the UK last summer. Prior to coming to the UK it had been advertised by a Ferrari dealership in Munich Saggio Gmbh IIRC - their asking price was €129,000. What difference a year makes!

I've been told SCoM are asking £175,000 - seems a bit optimistic for LHD ?
They are asking £200,000!