308 mandatory daytime running lights :(

308 mandatory daytime running lights :(

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Araantonak

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121 posts

133 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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ro55a said:
My God! The black car in the background has got a massive aerial too, is this some new and crazy legislation we have not heard about ?
laugh

Araantonak

Original Poster:

121 posts

133 months

Sunday 12th January 2014
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Thanks for all the helpful answers!!!

I found some nice looking lights in the Hella range and am awaiting confirmation that therese are conform with ECE-R 87



They have halogen bulbs and not LED so mounted on or behind the grille they should look quite nice and more "period" then blue-ish LED strips

Now I hope they are certified for Europe as "RL"

for those who speak German, here is a really good site detailing the rules: Ihr Informationsportal für Tagfahrleuchten

gmarsh

98 posts

147 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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Hi, 308 looks great and a pity that you seem to be forced to fit additional lights. I may be worth your while contacting PH member FerrariV8 who was particularly helpful in providing a solution to a query I raised in respect of my 328(see Ferrari 328 GTS/GTB thread). Hope you find a solution without having to spoil the appearance of such a great looking car.

Nmj

274 posts

147 months

Monday 13th January 2014
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gmarsh said:
Hi, 308 looks great and a pity that you seem to be forced to fit additional lights. I may be worth your while contacting PH member FerrariV8 who was particularly helpful in providing a solution to a query I raised in respect of my 328(see Ferrari 328 GTS/GTB thread). Hope you find a solution without having to spoil the appearance of such a great looking car.
Flashers were an option as a factory order on the 308 and look very period when fitted , personally I don't think they spoil the look of the car but it's a personal thing

Jonty355

4,423 posts

214 months

Sunday 19th January 2014
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Araantonak said:
Unfortunately not. banghead

1) they are not EU certified as running lights
2) they are outside the required range of 400 cd to max 1'200 cd
Wouldn't your pop ups be up anyway? My '82 GTBi pops its lights up when the sides are on? Should it not do that?

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Sunday 19th January 2014
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Jonty355 said:
Wouldn't your pop ups be up anyway? My '82 GTBi pops its lights up when the sides are on? Should it not do that?
Read the OP Jonty. He does not want to have to pop up the lights for each and every drive, whether day or night. Quite reasonably, IMO. You may as well bolt the pods open. It changes the car's styling dramatically.

swindler

254 posts

180 months

Sunday 19th January 2014
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How retrospective is this law? Would it apply to, say, a Model T Ford?

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Only 1970 onwards vehicles.

Nmj

274 posts

147 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Jonty355 said:
Wouldn't your pop ups be up anyway? My '82 GTBi pops its lights up when the sides are on? Should it not do that?
No, it shouldn't

Nmj

274 posts

147 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Jonty355 said:
Wouldn't your pop ups be up anyway? My '82 GTBi pops its lights up when the sides are on? Should it not do that?
No, it shouldn't

Jonty355

4,423 posts

214 months

Monday 20th January 2014
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Nmj said:
Jonty355 said:
Wouldn't your pop ups be up anyway? My '82 GTBi pops its lights up when the sides are on? Should it not do that?
No, it shouldn't
Cheers for that.... now wondering if I turned them on properly? Sure they popped up no matter what though.

I know I can definitely have them up without the headlights on

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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Nmj said:
No, it shouldn't
Not quite true, I think. iirc, the lights are wired differently for different markets. In European markets, the lights pop up even if just for the sides to allow the habit of flashing oncoming traffic (which needs the pods up). So a turn of the stalk is needed to allow this. In the US version, the pods stay down. iirc, you can fiddle with relays and diodes to make things work differently.

Nmj

274 posts

147 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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Behemoth said:
Not quite true, I think. iirc, the lights are wired differently for different markets. In European markets, the lights pop up even if just for the sides to allow the habit of flashing oncoming traffic (which needs the pods up). So a turn of the stalk is needed to allow this. In the US version, the pods stay down. iirc, you can fiddle with relays and diodes to make things work differently.
Ah apologies , I was talking UK market , my gts and gts I can certainly just have sides on without h/lights popping up

Nmj

274 posts

147 months

Tuesday 21st January 2014
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Behemoth said:
Not quite true, I think. iirc, the lights are wired differently for different markets. In European markets, the lights pop up even if just for the sides to allow the habit of flashing oncoming traffic (which needs the pods up). So a turn of the stalk is needed to allow this. In the US version, the pods stay down. iirc, you can fiddle with relays and diodes to make things work differently.
Also I can definitely have my headlights popped up but not lit if I choose to

100 IAN

1,091 posts

163 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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You may find something suitable in this catalogue

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/t/Catalogue

Behemoth

2,105 posts

132 months

Thursday 23rd January 2014
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100 IAN said:
You may find something suitable in this catalogue

http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/t/Catalogue
Nice source, Ian. Thank you. I'm looking for a discrete rear fog I can hide away somewhere on mine.