Talk to me about Mondials
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I've been to look at a Mondial 3.2 QV Coupe today that I'm thinking of buying.
My thinking is that the 355 isn't really practical now I have a daughter and I dont get the chance to use the 355 as much now that there's 3 of us.
I've been and driven a car today that belongs to a friend and is selling due to lack of space. The car is in excellent condition, plenty of receipts for work including a full respray in 2011. Car is red with cream interior, 69k miles. Has a few little electrical niggles but only minor things like you have to do boot/bonnet/fuel-cap release using cord rather than buttons.
She drove well, has had recent cambelts, service and lots of money spent etc with both Shiltech and Italia Autosport.
He's asking £15,000 for it. Is that about right considering mileage/spec etc?
Are there many Mondial owners on here that can give me details of how they've found ownership?
My thinking is that the 355 isn't really practical now I have a daughter and I dont get the chance to use the 355 as much now that there's 3 of us.
I've been and driven a car today that belongs to a friend and is selling due to lack of space. The car is in excellent condition, plenty of receipts for work including a full respray in 2011. Car is red with cream interior, 69k miles. Has a few little electrical niggles but only minor things like you have to do boot/bonnet/fuel-cap release using cord rather than buttons.
She drove well, has had recent cambelts, service and lots of money spent etc with both Shiltech and Italia Autosport.
He's asking £15,000 for it. Is that about right considering mileage/spec etc?
Are there many Mondial owners on here that can give me details of how they've found ownership?
They're bargains at the moment, imo. There's little love for them, but that's only because of a slight dip in styling quality vs what was immediately before and what came soon after.
It's amazing how much a pair of sub-standard air intakes can hit the value of a car. If they had 308/360 scoops or full on TR/348 strakes, I think they would go for 3 times the price.
It's amazing how much a pair of sub-standard air intakes can hit the value of a car. If they had 308/360 scoops or full on TR/348 strakes, I think they would go for 3 times the price.
Thanks for the replies guys. If there are any Mondial owners who can give advice on running/owning one then that would be greatly appreciated as I think I'm going to go for it!
I know what you mean, the air intakes are the one thing that lets down the Mondial. Wasn't too fussed about the front end of the original Mondial 8 though either. Much prefer the later 3.2 and T cars. The entire shape has grown on me a lot. I think its one of those shapes that will get better with age.
I know what you mean, the air intakes are the one thing that lets down the Mondial. Wasn't too fussed about the front end of the original Mondial 8 though either. Much prefer the later 3.2 and T cars. The entire shape has grown on me a lot. I think its one of those shapes that will get better with age.
There was an owners experience guide a couple of years ago - can't recall if the owner had a qv or t
Found it http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Found it http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Bo_apex said:
both the 3.2 and T are great fun for real world motoring. Straight line stability is excellent as is cornering. Lower centre of gravity with fuel tank location in T affords nicely progressive handling. Both are comfortable enough for trips across the continent too. Enjoy ! 
Agreed. They're good cars. Not generally considered the best looking Ferraris (at least not in a conventional sense) but they drive well and sound great (much like the GT4). Surprisingly practical too by all accounts but there's only so practical a Ferrari gets!johnnyreggae said:
There was an owners experience guide a couple of years ago - can't recall if the owner had a qv or t
Found it http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
Yeah had read that but is a T car. They're a lot more expensive to service, bit like the 355 I already have, although that will be going up for sale when I get back from Lemans.Found it http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...
I absolutely love Ferrari's that people have "fallen out of love with" because eventually everyone ALWAYS falls back in love with them and you ALWAYS make money on the buggers. At £15k he shouldn't still have an arm left. That said, go in at £12.5k, you may lose a friend at that price but gain a bargain. If you are upset about the loss of said friend, split the difference, give me £1250 and I will be your bestest mate.
Ha ha! I was feeling generous and went in at £14k. I wont repeat his answer! Good job I didn't take your advice on the £12.5k! ha ha.
Woudn't budge on price as that was his low price he'd given, which is fair enough since I had seen bills for about £15k since he bought it in 2010 for about the same money! The car is in good condition and a lovely spec (though may change the beige carpets to red) and she drove beautifully!
Looking forward to picking it up next week, will post pictures when I have it!
Woudn't budge on price as that was his low price he'd given, which is fair enough since I had seen bills for about £15k since he bought it in 2010 for about the same money! The car is in good condition and a lovely spec (though may change the beige carpets to red) and she drove beautifully!
Looking forward to picking it up next week, will post pictures when I have it!
I really like mine. Took quite a bit to get it how I wanted. Engine was perfect, gearbox needed 2 new syncro's so got it rebuilt, now perfect but an expensive job. No rot anywhere now either. That was the biggest job as many owners didn't seem to look after the metalwork. The advantage of the QV Cabriolet model is low numbers, only 24 UK RHD cars, probably less now and lower servicing costs due to cam belt and clutch changes being done with engine and gearbox in situ rather than removal.
Hi, I was the owner of the T in the carpool story.
As an ownership propersition they are good, and not really a big issue in running costs. The servicing of a T is pretty puch the same as a 3.2 or earlier cars, it is only the belts at 3 year intervals where they really differ. Oh and clutch prices where a T is significantly cheaper due to ease of access.
The issue with all older Ferraris and mondials are the same is that the parts are a bit rarer and fragile, so a daughter getting in the back needs to be with caution so as not to damage any of the plastic trim.....finding replacements is an issue, not costly, just an issue.
The T is a vastly more engineered car for driving though, and a lot closer in feel to your 355. While I am sure the 3.2 drove well, the roll oversteer and lack of power steering had me slowing down, where as the T with adjustable suspension and far more planted feel had me trying to keep up with my Westfield owning palls......with some success.
Looking after the metal is also a costly job. Alli does rot, so keep on top of this as you will need to.
I sold mine though as while the kids loved it, going out in it was quite an undertaking, and after an hour of so you were getting quite hot and well I missed my convertibles. Long story short it started to sit unused for a month at a time while life got in the way. That said I do miss that engine and it left me with some epic driving memories.....I have been looking at 360 spiders and possibly 348 spiders as a result.
As an ownership propersition they are good, and not really a big issue in running costs. The servicing of a T is pretty puch the same as a 3.2 or earlier cars, it is only the belts at 3 year intervals where they really differ. Oh and clutch prices where a T is significantly cheaper due to ease of access.
The issue with all older Ferraris and mondials are the same is that the parts are a bit rarer and fragile, so a daughter getting in the back needs to be with caution so as not to damage any of the plastic trim.....finding replacements is an issue, not costly, just an issue.
The T is a vastly more engineered car for driving though, and a lot closer in feel to your 355. While I am sure the 3.2 drove well, the roll oversteer and lack of power steering had me slowing down, where as the T with adjustable suspension and far more planted feel had me trying to keep up with my Westfield owning palls......with some success.
Looking after the metal is also a costly job. Alli does rot, so keep on top of this as you will need to.
I sold mine though as while the kids loved it, going out in it was quite an undertaking, and after an hour of so you were getting quite hot and well I missed my convertibles. Long story short it started to sit unused for a month at a time while life got in the way. That said I do miss that engine and it left me with some epic driving memories.....I have been looking at 360 spiders and possibly 348 spiders as a result.
Hi, I was the owner of the T in the carpool story.
As an ownership propersition they are good, and not really a big issue in running costs. The servicing of a T is pretty puch the same as a 3.2 or earlier cars, it is only the belts at 3 year intervals where they really differ. Oh and clutch prices where a T is significantly cheaper due to ease of access.
The issue with all older Ferraris and mondials are the same is that the parts are a bit rarer and fragile, so a daughter getting in the back needs to be with caution so as not to damage any of the plastic trim.....finding replacements is an issue, not costly, just an issue.
The T is a vastly more engineered car for driving though, and a lot closer in feel to your 355. While I am sure the 3.2 drove well, the roll oversteer and lack of power steering had me slowing down, where as the T with adjustable suspension and far more planted feel had me trying to keep up with my Westfield owning palls......with some success.
Looking after the metal is also a costly job. Alli does rot, so keep on top of this as you will need to.
I sold mine though as while the kids loved it, going out in it was quite an undertaking, and after an hour of so you were getting quite hot and well I missed my convertibles. Long story short it started to sit unused for a month at a time while life got in the way. That said I do miss that engine and it left me with some epic driving memories.....I have been looking at 360 spiders and possibly 348 spiders as a result.
As an ownership propersition they are good, and not really a big issue in running costs. The servicing of a T is pretty puch the same as a 3.2 or earlier cars, it is only the belts at 3 year intervals where they really differ. Oh and clutch prices where a T is significantly cheaper due to ease of access.
The issue with all older Ferraris and mondials are the same is that the parts are a bit rarer and fragile, so a daughter getting in the back needs to be with caution so as not to damage any of the plastic trim.....finding replacements is an issue, not costly, just an issue.
The T is a vastly more engineered car for driving though, and a lot closer in feel to your 355. While I am sure the 3.2 drove well, the roll oversteer and lack of power steering had me slowing down, where as the T with adjustable suspension and far more planted feel had me trying to keep up with my Westfield owning palls......with some success.
Looking after the metal is also a costly job. Alli does rot, so keep on top of this as you will need to.
I sold mine though as while the kids loved it, going out in it was quite an undertaking, and after an hour of so you were getting quite hot and well I missed my convertibles. Long story short it started to sit unused for a month at a time while life got in the way. That said I do miss that engine and it left me with some epic driving memories.....I have been looking at 360 spiders and possibly 348 spiders as a result.
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