F40 fuel cells price jump

F40 fuel cells price jump

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bermy boy

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43 posts

180 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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I bought a Euro spec F40 two years ago with fuel cells that were eight years old. Decided to wait to replace them at ten years old and just been quoted £29,000 for the cells, ex fitting. Price seems to have doubled in two years. Now considering alu tanks. Anyone else got experience or more background with this?

johnnyreggae

2,944 posts

161 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Have a chat with Kevin at Mototechnique or Aldo at Riverside if you haven't already

yellowtr

1,188 posts

227 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Also chat with Elias @Autofficina as they have done loads and have done one recently.

col68

251 posts

207 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Only seem to leak once they have been changed...if it ain't broke....

voicey

2,453 posts

188 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Ferrari raised prices on all parts at the end of last year. There was some notice though and everyone I know in the trade stocked up on their most used parts. Sadly for me that doesn't include F40 tanks...

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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How much can it cost to make an Aluminium box ?


Camlet

1,132 posts

150 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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Definitely shop around but ensure you use a technician who knows what they're doing, and ask for the manufacturer of the said tanks.

When I bought my F40 back in 2011, the car was advertised with ''new tanks''. Indeed they were but they were ***t. Both the quality of the tanks and the installation. The car stank of fuel and I was driving around in a bomb.

I went for ATL made tanks, superb product. See pics below. Before and ATL. The cost was around a third of what you're stating.








DaveK-S1

285 posts

202 months

Thursday 19th April 2018
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The AtL cells are £7291.60 + vat, obviously you have to factor in the fitting of these at a specialist , but its going to be a good way shy of the 29k quoted

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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Maybe too late for the OP but FWIW last year Willans made us some custom FIA rated bags, including internal fuel pumps and all fittings and seals and got Dockings to make some more substantial holding tanks than the Ferrari frames. Really, really nice work as far as I can tell and all in cost less than just some ATL cells alone.




anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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del mar said:
How much can it cost to make an Aluminium box ?
Not much, but Euro F40 tanks are Kevlar bags...

Scrimper

154 posts

166 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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bermy boy said:
I bought a Euro spec F40 two years ago with fuel cells that were eight years old. Decided to wait to replace them at ten years old and just been quoted £29,000 for the cells, ex fitting. Price seems to have doubled in two years. Now considering alu tanks. Anyone else got experience or more background with this?
That quote seems very high. ATL tanks are quality product. Last time they needed changing I had aluminium tanks put in. This was a several years ago and have had no problems.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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Scrimper said:
That quote seems very high. ATL tanks are quality product. Last time they needed changing I had aluminium tanks put in. This was a several years ago and have had no problems.
Makes sense. Bags are probably overkill for a road car. General consensus seems to be to stick with bags if you track it though.

sparta6

3,704 posts

101 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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bermy boy said:
I bought a Euro spec F40 two years ago with fuel cells that were eight years old. Decided to wait to replace them at ten years old and just been quoted £29,000 for the cells, ex fitting. Price seems to have doubled in two years. Now considering alu tanks. Anyone else got experience or more background with this?
Hmmm, I wonder if such an OEM price hike is a Classiche Certification trick. Do ATL's qualify ?

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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fblm said:
del mar said:
How much can it cost to make an Aluminium box ?
Not much, but Euro F40 tanks are Kevlar bags...
I appreciate that, but swapping them for an aluminium tank that won’t need replacing is hardly going to devalue the car.



anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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del mar said:
fblm said:
del mar said:
How much can it cost to make an Aluminium box ?
Not much, but Euro F40 tanks are Kevlar bags...
I appreciate that, but swapping them for an aluminium tank that won’t need replacing is hardly going to devalue the car.
I agree makes sense and US cars all had ally tanks anyway but market is idiotic about originality so you'd probably have to change it back to sell it anyway or take a stupid price hit.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 20th May 17:32

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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del mar said:
fblm said:
del mar said:
How much can it cost to make an Aluminium box ?
Not much, but Euro F40 tanks are Kevlar bags...
I appreciate that, but swapping them for an aluminium tank that won’t need replacing is hardly going to devalue the car.
Depends if you want to drive it or keep it in a climate controlled garage from where you can watch it quietly appreciate?

Originality is almost everything at this end of the market

del mar

2,838 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th May 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Depends if you want to drive it or keep it in a climate controlled garage from where you can watch it quietly appreciate?

Originality is almost everything at this end of the market
Unfortunately this is a dilemma I will never have ......




Scrimper

154 posts

166 months

Tuesday 22nd May 2018
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True that originality is important but I consider these parts as consumables and therefor not as relevant as say originality of carbon panels. In any case the cost of installing new bag tanks would be the same as replacing original bag tanks so don’t see much relevance in terms of value. In any case I never plan to sell mine and do not track it so minimising running costs seems sensible.


Unfortunately this is a dilemma I will never have ......




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