Irrelevant Ferrari F40 RHD question....
Discussion
Im reminded of a PH member that bought an F40 before the prices rocketed and used it as his daily driver. It was street parked in London as well. There’s pictures of him camping with his tent being held up by the car which I can’t find. I seam to recall he bought it for 150k In his 20’s and wasn’t planning on it being an investment. But, even after using it with out concern, I think he doubled his money.
Here’s a photo
Here’s a photo
h0b0 said:
Jamie Beeston.
other photos of F40 camping are also at google but I didn’t see Jamie’s car at first passIt would not be especially hard to do a rhd conversion on a f40. You would had to relocate a couple of stuff, make a new dash, drill in a couple of places, make a new axis and acouple of more small changes.
Pristine cars would be a waste for this hypothetical work of yours for wayyy to many reasons.
'Modernizing' the f40 engine and keep the character are utterly incompatible. The only 2 things the car needs are fresh and modern good discs, good pads and a service on the calipers smaller bits. To add to that a set of adjustable modern coilovers would improve tremendously the driving of the car, especially rebound wise (f40 jump wayyy too much on the rear) kw 4 apparently can be had with a retrofit lightweight lift kit, so that would help a lot with usability too. I would keep stock spring rates tho.
On the engine side, modern fuel lines and a deep revision on anything that has either fuel or oil moving would be the first thing to be done.
If you want to make more efficient in every single way just either have a good cosworth tuner do a tune for 98 and modern fuel, add a sensor to measure the richness and egt or just get a good standalone with all the sensors and really make it modern. You can have race car type tc, ignition cut on shift, lc, race abs, anything you can imgine.
If you want to keep the awesome laggy character of the engine put a gt30 and do similar lenght headers but with bigger primaries and leave it run crazy rich as it is, if you want boost early on, get a g25 or a fitting efr and tune it well.
The f40s that I saw running modern turbo and modern ecus looked like a dog that got his balls and dick cut. Monsterous Lag is a big part of the car character.
In my opinion what I would like to do as a project would be making all the panels lighter either lm type of construction or actual carbon (f40 panels are fiberglass with a couple of layers of carbon kevlar and f
k ton of resin), this by it self would cut weight by the hundreds, do a full inconel exhaust with bigger pipes after the turbo (still laggy but more top end), see what modern alloys and designs are being used in rally cars and see if I could at least cut weight there and rebuild the tubular chassis of the f40 (that by the way was a very good rally type design (the guy that made the car from a to z worked on the rally department) of the era, and one of the safest cars to be on a roll over).
Then do either a rally type progressive suspension or just put some nice coilovers on similar rates to oem, just to get that bit of refinement on stty roads. Brakes are a given but I wouldn't do the lm brake pump (i don't know how it's called in english), car has no abs, with that pump the car just locks the wheels wayy too much.
Just good healthy fresh brakes and lots of squats.
Pristine cars would be a waste for this hypothetical work of yours for wayyy to many reasons.
'Modernizing' the f40 engine and keep the character are utterly incompatible. The only 2 things the car needs are fresh and modern good discs, good pads and a service on the calipers smaller bits. To add to that a set of adjustable modern coilovers would improve tremendously the driving of the car, especially rebound wise (f40 jump wayyy too much on the rear) kw 4 apparently can be had with a retrofit lightweight lift kit, so that would help a lot with usability too. I would keep stock spring rates tho.
On the engine side, modern fuel lines and a deep revision on anything that has either fuel or oil moving would be the first thing to be done.
If you want to make more efficient in every single way just either have a good cosworth tuner do a tune for 98 and modern fuel, add a sensor to measure the richness and egt or just get a good standalone with all the sensors and really make it modern. You can have race car type tc, ignition cut on shift, lc, race abs, anything you can imgine.
If you want to keep the awesome laggy character of the engine put a gt30 and do similar lenght headers but with bigger primaries and leave it run crazy rich as it is, if you want boost early on, get a g25 or a fitting efr and tune it well.
The f40s that I saw running modern turbo and modern ecus looked like a dog that got his balls and dick cut. Monsterous Lag is a big part of the car character.
In my opinion what I would like to do as a project would be making all the panels lighter either lm type of construction or actual carbon (f40 panels are fiberglass with a couple of layers of carbon kevlar and f
k ton of resin), this by it self would cut weight by the hundreds, do a full inconel exhaust with bigger pipes after the turbo (still laggy but more top end), see what modern alloys and designs are being used in rally cars and see if I could at least cut weight there and rebuild the tubular chassis of the f40 (that by the way was a very good rally type design (the guy that made the car from a to z worked on the rally department) of the era, and one of the safest cars to be on a roll over). Then do either a rally type progressive suspension or just put some nice coilovers on similar rates to oem, just to get that bit of refinement on s
tty roads. Brakes are a given but I wouldn't do the lm brake pump (i don't know how it's called in english), car has no abs, with that pump the car just locks the wheels wayy too much.Just good healthy fresh brakes and lots of squats.
cgt2 said:
The right hand drive Brunei cars had no chassis number on the plate above the steering column, just blank.
If they didn't at the start, they have nowhttps://talacrest.com/Ferrari-Sales/Ferrari-F40/13...
hurstg01 said:
That's interesting. I never got up close with one of the Brunei F40's but had a proper look round a RHD F50 which just had a blank plate.
Gary Woodland said:
LotusOmega375D said:
Just Googled some images of it from back in the day (1990s), possibly at the same garage I saw it. Just check out that ghastly interior!
I absolutely love this. It's a shame it went red. https://www.instagram.com/p/B5Tc5-ClIB_/
will_ said:
Awesome 
jakesmith said:
You’re forgetting the ICE too. Pioneer head unit, JL Amp, 2x Playstations in the headrests, 3x 12 Kicker subs, a st ton of Dynamat all round and then a 32 band eq in the glovebox, plus stealth laser jammer and reverse camera install.
I'd leave all of that out and just go for the above posters suggestions, starting with the brakes t ton of Dynamat all round and then a 32 band eq in the glovebox, plus stealth laser jammer and reverse camera install. Camlet said:
The Sultan's car is unique and understandably prized. But its value is purely its rarity. As an F40 it's inevitably compromised. No right or wrong answer, a horse for a different course.
in what way is it compromised ?there's something very annoying that the f40/f50/enzo were never made in RHD
A friend who is a car dealer had one on sale for commission and let me sit in one earlier this year. I think it had an aftermarket roll cage I had to struggle through. Anyway, I don’t think I’d pay to convert to RHD, you get used to LHD after a while and the money could surely be better spent on improving the car? Based on the recent burned out wrecks that have been marketed it would seem that if your pockets are deep enough though, a brand new car could be built for you from the spare parts bin?
I seem to recall the seats were bespoke to the first owners, so I can deduce the first owner of ‘mine’ (the one I sat in and will never be able to afford) wasn’t as well built as me! I was surprised how rigidly hemmed in I was but this may have been a function of the cage.
I seem to recall the seats were bespoke to the first owners, so I can deduce the first owner of ‘mine’ (the one I sat in and will never be able to afford) wasn’t as well built as me! I was surprised how rigidly hemmed in I was but this may have been a function of the cage.
thegreenhell said:
you'd have to be mad.the same car could be bought through other avenues imo
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