From 911 Turbo to Gallardo!?
Discussion
i currently own and love my 911 (996) Turbo, but I have always lusted after owning a Lamborghini, and feel the Gallardo will be in my price range in a year or two.
I have read they are useable everyday and not prone to the older Lambo's build quality / reliability issues and astronomical running costs, so I was wondering from Gallardo owners what the real world running costs are, servicing is pretty steep isn't it?
I'd be looking at 50 / 55k to spend, so hopefully prices wont have rocketed in a couple of years!
I have read they are useable everyday and not prone to the older Lambo's build quality / reliability issues and astronomical running costs, so I was wondering from Gallardo owners what the real world running costs are, servicing is pretty steep isn't it?
I'd be looking at 50 / 55k to spend, so hopefully prices wont have rocketed in a couple of years!
I'm in the same boat - former 996 turbo owner considering a Gallardo!
That's the 'problem' with the 996 turbo, is that it's such a tough act to follow.
I've been watching the market for the last few months and I'm not seeing many below the 60k mark, however the upside of this is that depreciation seems to be very slow, so if you can afford the initial outlay the overall cradle-to grave cost shouldn't be too bad (for running a supercar!).
Will be interesting to see the effect on the market (if any) of the release of the Gallarado's replacement.
That's the 'problem' with the 996 turbo, is that it's such a tough act to follow.
I've been watching the market for the last few months and I'm not seeing many below the 60k mark, however the upside of this is that depreciation seems to be very slow, so if you can afford the initial outlay the overall cradle-to grave cost shouldn't be too bad (for running a supercar!).
Will be interesting to see the effect on the market (if any) of the release of the Gallarado's replacement.
Does anyone know the anticipated price of the "Huracán" Gallardo replacement?
If it's been designed to go head-to-head with the Ferrari 458 and McLaren 12C then presumably it will be similarly priced. I think the high price of the 458 has kept residuals up on the older F430 in which case Gallardo owners should be safe for a while?
If it's been designed to go head-to-head with the Ferrari 458 and McLaren 12C then presumably it will be similarly priced. I think the high price of the 458 has kept residuals up on the older F430 in which case Gallardo owners should be safe for a while?
I'm also in this position!
I've owned my 996tt for 4 years now and feel the only next step would be a Gallardo which is a huge compliment to the 996.
My only reservation is the 4 wheel drive aspect of the Lambo, having owned the 996 for so long I've found it to be a truly amazing car but....after the initial OMG it's quick I find it almost to competent on the road to get it to that point we're it's oversteering on the power out of corners etc and your giggling to yourself like a kid.
This is were my apprehension of another 4 wheel drive car comes from (I'm aware there very RWD biased similar to the 996), I'm not sure if it removes a bit of the childish behaviour that I use to love my old M3 for.
I've never realy liked the image of Ferrari's but because of the above I'm not sure if a 430 might be the way forward and be a bit more playful when you fancy it.
Still a bit off yet so I'm sure in time I'll figure out which will suit me the best.
I've owned my 996tt for 4 years now and feel the only next step would be a Gallardo which is a huge compliment to the 996.
My only reservation is the 4 wheel drive aspect of the Lambo, having owned the 996 for so long I've found it to be a truly amazing car but....after the initial OMG it's quick I find it almost to competent on the road to get it to that point we're it's oversteering on the power out of corners etc and your giggling to yourself like a kid.
This is were my apprehension of another 4 wheel drive car comes from (I'm aware there very RWD biased similar to the 996), I'm not sure if it removes a bit of the childish behaviour that I use to love my old M3 for.
I've never realy liked the image of Ferrari's but because of the above I'm not sure if a 430 might be the way forward and be a bit more playful when you fancy it.
Still a bit off yet so I'm sure in time I'll figure out which will suit me the best.
I feel like I'm hijacking this a bit.
With regard the daily drive reference, no just a toy.
The daily usability was one of the things that attracted me to the 996t but in reality I only use it when I feel like having a good drive.
All the usual reasons, can't park it without someone opening their door into it etc and the result is the wifes 1 series gets used the most.
With regard the daily drive reference, no just a toy.
The daily usability was one of the things that attracted me to the 996t but in reality I only use it when I feel like having a good drive.
All the usual reasons, can't park it without someone opening their door into it etc and the result is the wifes 1 series gets used the most.
Not quite the same, but I've just switched from a 996 GT3 to a LP550-2 Gallardo. Too early to let you know about running costs, but I've had enough time behind the wheel to thoroughly recommend the change. 
Oh, and if 4WD is not your bag (although the Gallardo is significantly biased to the rear), then rear wheel drive Gallardos are available.
Oh, and if 4WD is not your bag (although the Gallardo is significantly biased to the rear), then rear wheel drive Gallardos are available.
dank said:
i currently own and love my 911 (996) Turbo, but I have always lusted after owning a Lamborghini, and feel the Gallardo will be in my price range in a year or two.
I have read they are useable everyday and not prone to the older Lambo's build quality / reliability issues and astronomical running costs, so I was wondering from Gallardo owners what the real world running costs are, servicing is pretty steep isn't it?
I'd be looking at 50 / 55k to spend, so hopefully prices wont have rocketed in a couple of years!
I had a 997.2 Turbo & a Gallardo so hopefully I can help out here.I have read they are useable everyday and not prone to the older Lambo's build quality / reliability issues and astronomical running costs, so I was wondering from Gallardo owners what the real world running costs are, servicing is pretty steep isn't it?
I'd be looking at 50 / 55k to spend, so hopefully prices wont have rocketed in a couple of years!
If anyone ever asks me I would still tell them the 911 Turbo is there quickest car I've ever driven. Mentally quick in a straight line, but even more insanely quick on the twisty stuff. And just so easy to drive. The problem for me however, was there was just no noise, which was the main factor for me selling it. I looked at aftermarket exhausts etc but none of them were that great and couldn’t be bothered with the inevitable headache that would come with a warranty claim & Porsche's hysterical stance on aftermarket parts...
So I bought a Gallardo Superleggera to use as a daily. My father also has a 05 Gallardo which I use from time to time so can help there. The Gallardo is easy to drive, visibility is good, but a reversing camera is VERY handy (you can get it retrofitted). The servicing costs will be probably 2x as much as a turbo but using a specialist would most likely help keep that down. I've used both derivatives for day to day use and they're great, the only downside is they get quite a lot of attention so it may be handy to have another car to use for when you don't want to turn up in something "too flash", I bought a 2001 Audi TT
Great cars the Gallardo, really like them and still quite fancy a spyder for the few sunny days we have. If there’s anything else you want to know please don’t hesitate to ask.
lambo_xx said:
If there’s anything else you want to know please don’t hesitate to ask.
Perceived wisdon usually suggest buying a later car (forums full of talk of the essential MY improvements you MUST have 
), but I think the original car was spot on.Did your father have any particular issues with his 05 Gallardo?
Thanks for the responses, yes it's true seems the only car that could tempt me away from my 911 Turbo is a Gallardo, was looking at Ferarri 355/360 before getting the 911, but Ferarri just doesn't do it for me, unless it was a 360 challenge stradale, but I can't afford 100k!
Great to see other turbo owners in the same boat, funny how car owners a lot of the time have the same previous car history, a lot of 996 turbo owners seem to have come from lotus/ vx220's as well.
Anyway, I did read somewhere Gallardo servicing is £1250 minor service and £2500 2 year service, that's a lot more than 2 x 911 turbo servicing, which is £560 major service and £250 minor! Are these prices correct?
Tyres are the same price as the 911, just paid £500 for two potenzas so i am used to expensive boots!
I think those servicing costs could cause a rethink, add in some tyres, insurance, fuel and any other bits that may go wrong, it could work out very exoensive in two years of ownership????
Great to see other turbo owners in the same boat, funny how car owners a lot of the time have the same previous car history, a lot of 996 turbo owners seem to have come from lotus/ vx220's as well.
Anyway, I did read somewhere Gallardo servicing is £1250 minor service and £2500 2 year service, that's a lot more than 2 x 911 turbo servicing, which is £560 major service and £250 minor! Are these prices correct?
Tyres are the same price as the 911, just paid £500 for two potenzas so i am used to expensive boots!
I think those servicing costs could cause a rethink, add in some tyres, insurance, fuel and any other bits that may go wrong, it could work out very exoensive in two years of ownership????
dank said:
Anyway, I did read somewhere Gallardo servicing is £1250 minor service and £2500 2 year service, that's a lot more than 2 x 911 turbo servicing, which is £560 major service and £250 minor! Are these prices correct?
Ring around a few independent specialists, and also compare them with the franchised dealers ( Lamborghini Pangbourne offer fixed price servicing and are keen to build their customer base currently).For example BHP Motorsport will do an annual service from £550 with the major from £1,499.
There are a number of others out there: shop around and see what the costs are.
Went from a 996 Turbo X50 to a F430 spider to LP570-4 Performante.
Ok its at the top end of the Gallardo tree but boy oh boy what a car.
Nothing grabs the attention or sounds like a V10 Lambo.
Its totally awesome and outrageous.
I bought it in preference to cheaper 458's and McLaren MP4 12C's because its so much fun.
You would not be disappointed in anyway even with an earlier Gallardo - they are totally bonkers and a PROPER SUPERCAR not just a fast sports car.
At £60k you can't go wrong if you get a fully serviced and documented car.
With the replacement being circa £200k and sold out for 2 years residuals will be strong throughout the price range. Very underrated car and Future Classic guaranteed
Go find yourself a good un before they disappear
Ok its at the top end of the Gallardo tree but boy oh boy what a car.
Nothing grabs the attention or sounds like a V10 Lambo.
Its totally awesome and outrageous.
I bought it in preference to cheaper 458's and McLaren MP4 12C's because its so much fun.
You would not be disappointed in anyway even with an earlier Gallardo - they are totally bonkers and a PROPER SUPERCAR not just a fast sports car.
At £60k you can't go wrong if you get a fully serviced and documented car.
With the replacement being circa £200k and sold out for 2 years residuals will be strong throughout the price range. Very underrated car and Future Classic guaranteed
Go find yourself a good un before they disappear
i'm currently jumping between a 2007 superleggera and a 2004 996 c2 ( i never did like the turbo's noise or "busy" looks )
all the other gallardos i've ever driven have something of a "heavy" and "safe" feel after the 911. the 2007/8 sl's better, but... you need a long test drive
over around 40k miles in each, routine lambo servicing costs around six times as much as the 911, and you have far fewer options. i get through tyres and brakes more quickly in the lambo : tyres cost a little more, discs i cannot find for less than 2k
lambo 13mpg overall, 911 easily double that
this may not be typical, but the lambo engine's already lasted longer than the 911's, and the e-gear clutch looks set to last twice as long
lambo panels and parts generally are stupidly expensive : check www.eurospares.co.uk for an indication
put 911 type mileage on a lambo, and the car will be all but unsellable
imho the lambo makes for a very compromised day to day car ( attention, traffic, parking, visibility, ground clearance, turning circle, dare not take it to work etc ), but then the highs are so much higher
all the other gallardos i've ever driven have something of a "heavy" and "safe" feel after the 911. the 2007/8 sl's better, but... you need a long test drive
over around 40k miles in each, routine lambo servicing costs around six times as much as the 911, and you have far fewer options. i get through tyres and brakes more quickly in the lambo : tyres cost a little more, discs i cannot find for less than 2k
lambo 13mpg overall, 911 easily double that
this may not be typical, but the lambo engine's already lasted longer than the 911's, and the e-gear clutch looks set to last twice as long
lambo panels and parts generally are stupidly expensive : check www.eurospares.co.uk for an indication
put 911 type mileage on a lambo, and the car will be all but unsellable
imho the lambo makes for a very compromised day to day car ( attention, traffic, parking, visibility, ground clearance, turning circle, dare not take it to work etc ), but then the highs are so much higher
Darranu said:
Hi, How did the 430 compare to your X50 996?
I love the punch of the larger turbo's but I'm starting to want something more special than 996 and a 430 is on the list
Mine was a full factory aerokitted X50 with a designtec 200 cell titanium exhaust so as 911 Turbo's go it looked and sounded the business. It was supposed to be 35 bhp up on stock so possibly 485 bhp and it felt every bit of it with minimal lag in the right gear but loads of torque.I love the punch of the larger turbo's but I'm starting to want something more special than 996 and a 430 is on the list
It was definitely a lot quicker than the F430 and more planted with the 4 WD. Typical germnanic efficiency and build quality but dare I say it was too damn efficient and a tad boring.
Even with the full kit in arctic silver it rarely got a second look unless the person was a fellow pistonhead.
The F430 is far more special and more of an occasion to drive. They were both 4th sunny sunday am cars for posing and some enthusiastic driving and for that reason the F430 was more appealing but also 3 times the money at the time £120k v £40k.
Build quality on the Ferrari was not as good as the Porsche and is no where near my 2012 Lambo.
Mine was low mileage circa 5k F430 but there were lots of minor little irritating grumbles which I constantly got sorted to be 100% correct. ( minor rattles, black paint peeling off inner doors shuts, front suspension too high etc things that 99% of Ferrari owners/dealers wouldn't worry about but always niggled me ).
It was quick enough, handled really well and sounded 10 times better than the 911 turbo. I thoroughly enjoyed it for my 2 year tenure and could recommend it to anyone. Mine was only at the main dealer for about 2 weeks in November but whoever bought the car stole it even at £95k because it was a totally sorted low mileage rare full spec car with FFSH and probably better than new.
The LP570-4 PET was nigh on twice the money again and seems to offer Germanic build quality and reliability with Italian flair and excitement. Its a lot faster then the F430, handles like its on rails and sounds unbelievable.
I haven't driven or even looked at an early Gallardo but heard on here etc that they got better through their lifespan with 2006 onwards being better than the really early ones, then 2008 better again and then that the 2009 onwards LP's were properly sorted cars, which I can confirm with my 2012 car.
The F430 is a great car but if you can find a good Lambo and don't mind the attention I think its worth considering as an alternative. Its a very underrated car and a future classic for sure. I think both cars will remain fairly strong on residuals but at the £60k end I believe Gallardo will fair better long term
Both good cars so have a look round and find the right one for you in your budget bearing in mind both are expensive to keep a proper main dealer history on ( Lambo more so than Ferrari ). You will also want a good warranty for peace of mind or failing that a contingency fund should anything go horribly wrong
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