Price Drops on The Gallardo

[Dolittle]

I drove the 458, 570 and 12c back to back. The 570 didn't feel a massive amount better than the standard Gallardo, it felt dated and a bit dull, i would get a £70k Gallardo and pocket the difference. The 458 was super quick, sounded great and more fun to drive and felt in a totally different league to the 570. But the Mclaren wiped the floor, it was amazing.

[Alpinestars]

Dolittle said:

I drove the 458, 570 and 12c back to back. The 570 didn't feel a massive amount better than the standard Gallardo, it felt dated and a bit dull, i would get a £70k Gallardo and pocket the difference. The 458 was super quick, sounded great and more fun to drive and felt in a totally different league to the 570. But the Mclaren wiped the floor, it was amazing.

Interesting, a 560 is as quick as a 458 so it's hard to see why a 570 wouldn't be quicker. And no quicker than a standard Gallardo? It's miles quicker!

[GRBF430F1]

All 3 are ballistic in their own right. The LP570-4 gave me the greatest sense of speed with a sound to die for but the McLaren was definitely the fastest but soulless.
There was nothing to choose between the 458 and LP570-4 I drove. Purposely made a note of it from a standing start on a long straight stretch of road and the speedos gave the same reading at the exact same marking on the road.

I'm sure there will be a video on U tube to prove the point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8G7MPdVoQA

Edited by GRBF430F1 on Monday 3rd February 16:22

[andrew]

Alpinestars said:

Dolittle said:

I drove the 458, 570 and 12c back to back. The 570 didn't feel a massive amount better than the standard Gallardo, it felt dated and a bit dull, i would get a £70k Gallardo and pocket the difference. The 458 was super quick, sounded great and more fun to drive and felt in a totally different league to the 570. But the Mclaren wiped the floor, it was amazing.

Interesting, a 560 is as quick as a 458 so it's hard to see why a 570 wouldn't be quicker. And no quicker than a standard Gallardo? It's miles quicker!

the 550, 560 and 570 all rev to the same published limit
lamborghini also claim the same maximum torque for all three
so any power differences must be wholly beyond maximum torque revs

anyone who can detect these 2% power differences within limited rev ranges must be formula one material

[GRBF430F1]

Dolittle said:

I drove the 458, 570 and 12c back to back. The 570 didn't feel a massive amount better than the standard Gallardo, it felt dated and a bit dull, i would get a £70k Gallardo and pocket the difference. The 458 was super quick, sounded great and more fun to drive and felt in a totally different league to the 570. But the Mclaren wiped the floor, it was amazing.

See the video above it might be super quick but it is still slower than the LP570-4.
I suppose the Lambo is a premiership team like Chelski and the 458 is QPR lol

[av185]

Haven't had the pleasure of driving a Gallardo but had an interesting day recently driving several 'supercars' back to back for 45minutes each on rapid A roads.....F12, Vanquish, Mclaren, 458 and Aventador.

The Aventador (white) was the biggest crowd puller, no contest, but I would choose it above the Ferraris and Mclaren only as a weekend blast car, the extremities of which would undoubtedly be compromising as an ownership proposition.....

In contrast, the character and usability of the normally aspirated 458 meant it would unquestionably be my choice of the bunch over the rather synthetic all or nothing Mclaren.

Since then ran a 458 for a week doing 1500 miles.....what a complete package it is, only drawback being quite wide for spirited A and B road driving......makes you appreciate the relative compactness and practicalities of the 911.......

[Alpinestars]

andrew said:

the 550, 560 and 570 all rev to the same published limit
lamborghini also claim the same maximum torque for all three
so any power differences must be wholly beyond maximum torque revs

anyone who can detect these 2% power differences within limited rev ranges must be formula one material

2 points;

1. Weight. Approx 75kgs difference.
2. Dolittle said he'd rather spend 70k and pocket the difference. I assume that's what he meant by a standard Gaylord. And there is a huge difference between a pre LP "70k" car and a Super Legover.

[andrew]

Alpinestars said:

andrew said:

the 550, 560 and 570 all rev to the same published limit
lamborghini also claim the same maximum torque for all three
so any power differences must be wholly beyond maximum torque revs

anyone who can detect these 2% power differences within limited rev ranges must be formula one material

2 points;

1. Weight. Approx 75kgs difference.
2. Dolittle said he'd rather spend 70k and pocket the difference. I assume that's what he meant by a standard Gaylord. And there is a huge difference between a pre LP "70k" car and a Super Legover.

the factory quote 35kg maximum difference across the spyders

enjoy !

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...

[Alpinestars]

andrew said:

the factory quote 35kg maximum difference across the spyders

enjoy !

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...

Wow! Talk about missing the point.

The guy mentioned a 70k car. That doesn't get you an LP.

Secondly he didn't mention a convertible. An LP coupe weighs 1410kg according to your link. A Super L weighs 1340. That's a 70kg difference (between LPs) and about 50hp between a 70k non LP and a Super L.

Edited by Alpinestars on Monday 3rd February 20:26

[GRBF430F1]

andrew said:

the factory quote 35kg maximum difference across the spyders

enjoy !

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...

35 Kg and 20 hp advantage to LP570-4 versus a 2 WD LP550. The 75Kg and 10 hp difference is to a LP560-4.

LP550 has 362 bhp per tonne and LP570-4 has 384 bhp per tonne.

The reduction in weight and up in power is significant enough to notice a difference and transform the feel but TBH both are hardly slow

[andrew]

GRBF430F1 said:

andrew said:

the factory quote 35kg maximum difference across the spyders

enjoy !

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...

35 Kg and 20 hp advantage to LP570-4 versus a 2 WD LP550. The 75Kg and 10 hp difference is to a LP560-4.

LP550 has 362 bhp per tonne and LP570-4 has 384 bhp per tonne.

The reduction in weight and up in power is significant enough to notice a difference and transform the feel but TBH both are hardly slow

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...

560 : 1520kg, 540Nm

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...
570 : 1485kg, 540Nm

Edited by andrew on Monday 3rd February 20:41

[Alpinestars]

andrew said:

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...

560 : 1520kg, 540Nm

http://www.lamborghini.com/en/masterpieces/gallard...
570 : 1485kg, 540Nm

Edited by andrew on Monday 3rd February 20:41

Why do you keep comparing Spyders?

[Dolittle]

Alpinestars said:

2 points;

1. Weight. Approx 75kgs difference.
2. Dolittle said he'd rather spend 70k and pocket the difference. I assume that's what he meant by a standard Gaylord. And there is a huge difference between a pre LP "70k" car and a Super Legover.

There might be a huge difference, but in my opinion its not worth the extra £££££ Standard 'Gallardo" is a great car. When I had the 570 I simply didn't think it was worth the extra £££ compared to how the standard car drove. When in comparison you could get something much more modern. I have had 2 Gallardo's, I think they are great as used cars, but buying a new one now, when there is so much more modern stuff about is not for me. (Post written after 5 pints, so excuse the grammar etc)

[Alpinestars]

Dolittle said:

There might be a huge difference, but in my opinion its not worth the extra £££££ Standard 'Gallardo" is a great car. When I had the 570 I simply didn't think it was worth the extra £££ compared to how the standard car drove. When in comparison you could get something much more modern. I have had 2 Gallardo's, I think they are great as used cars, but buying a new one now, when there is so much more modern stuff about is not for me. (Post written after 5 pints, so excuse the grammar etc)

Fair point re value, which is very subjective.

[famoussas]

Dolittle said:

There might be a huge difference, but in my opinion its not worth the extra £££££ Standard 'Gallardo" is a great car. When I had the 570 I simply didn't think it was worth the extra £££ compared to how the standard car drove. When in comparison you could get something much more modern. I have had 2 Gallardo's, I think they are great as used cars, but buying a new one now, when there is so much more modern stuff about is not for me. (Post written after 5 pints, so excuse the grammar etc)

But you only did 30 miles in the Performante?

Fair enough though, the competition is more technically advanced compared to the Gallardo. Appeals to some, not others.

[Dolittle]

famoussas said:

But you only did 30 miles in the Performante?

Fair enough though, the competition is more technically advanced compared to the Gallardo. Appeals to some, not others.

I'll have to correct you there, it was more like 10 miles, the car was sat on my drive, but I just didn't have the urge to drive it, it was a lovely car, don't get me wrong, I just guess I am too familiar with Gallardo's. If I had never driven a Gallardo, who knows I'd probably have been in 7th heaven.

http://youtu.be/7x4Wgtl8UIE

[hazy]

I think the Gallardo has aged pretty poorly, the original design was flawed with a cramped cabin, average brakes and transmission and awful handling disguised by the 4wd. The saving grace of the car was the epic engine, one of the true greats. The update of more power and chavvy bumpers was fooling no-one either.

I' think the Huracan will be a breath of fresh air and a new chapter for Lamborghini, finally separating them from their dull Audi origins, but in doing so it will be disastrous for the Gallardo values generally.

[APOLO1]

hazy said:

I think the Gallardo has aged pretty poorly, the original design was flawed with a cramped cabin, average brakes and transmission and awful handling disguised by the 4wd. The saving grace of the car was the epic engine, one of the true greats. The update of more power and chavvy bumpers was fooling no-one either.

I' think the Huracan will be a breath of fresh air and a new chapter for Lamborghini, finally separating them from their dull Audi origins, but in doing so it will be disastrous for the Gallardo values generally.

the original Gallardo is now over 10 years old, ok flawed now maybe, but over 14,000 people over the past 10 years, all brought one. .....IMV the new car, R8-V10 with a body kit.....

Edited by APOLO1 on Tuesday 4th February 06:54

[Dolittle]

hazy said:

I think the Gallardo has aged pretty poorly, the original design was flawed with a cramped cabin, average brakes and transmission and awful handling disguised by the 4wd. The saving grace of the car was the epic engine, one of the true greats. The update of more power and chavvy bumpers was fooling no-one either.

I' think the Huracan will be a breath of fresh air and a new chapter for Lamborghini, finally separating them from their dull Audi origins, but in doing so it will be disastrous for the Gallardo values generally.

I never found it cramped, couldnt complain about the handling, the brakes were good I thought, if you want to moan about brakes, try the murcielago!

[ZeusF]

One of the great things about the Gallardo is the handling.
I guess this is just a simple case of how differently people see things.