Why hasn't this sold?

[lamboman100]

acme said:

lamboman100 said:

Going from a dull, anonymous Porker.

You've clearly never driven, owned and worked on one (air cooled)....

I have.

[acme]

lamboman100 said:

I have.

I think you're perhaps the only person over the years I've heard say air cooled 911 ownership was dull! Though I do hope a Gallardo will be another step up in the 'event' stakes.

[KFC]

acme said:

Interesting, as they only account for about 10% I thought if only through being rare they'd be more prized.

Why would they be more prized? Its not like they were a special edition or something... every single Lambo owner had the chance to spec it with Manual and only 1 in 10 did so. Nobody wanted manual new, so that filters down into 2nd hand sales too.

If its going to be used regularly then e-gear really is the way to go. If its a garage queen or a sunday morning drive only then maybe manual would be okay.

[Pau1]

So, has anyone been to see this car or know if it's still for sale?

TIA

[NEFOC]

KFC said:

Why would they be more prized? Its not like they were a special edition or something... every single Lambo owner had the chance to spec it with Manual and only 1 in 10 did so. Nobody wanted manual new, so that filters down into 2nd hand sales too.

If its going to be used regularly then e-gear really is the way to go. If its a garage queen or a sunday morning drive only then maybe manual would be okay.

Manuals will definitely be valued over e-gear. A new Gallardo or any current model buyer is a totally different beast to the classic/collector. If they were not why would anybody have bought a 430 when new at the same price of an F40.

I had that exact conversation with my 10 year old at the time. He could not understand why I didn't want to buy a 430 and preferred the 'old' car.

Even today the buyer of an Aventador v a CarreraGT (not checked recently but probably close) is looking from a different perspective. There is no question which is the one to buy for driver excitement and future value, and it's not the Aventador. But look how many Aventadors there are. Clearly the new focused buyer prefers it. It's success will reduce its future appeal. Especially with the Huracan looking similar and likely to be built in huge numbers.

[KFC]

NEFOC said:

Manuals will definitely be valued over e-gear. A new Gallardo or any current model buyer is a totally different beast to the classic/collector. If they were not why would anybody have bought a 430 when new at the same price of an F40.

A gallardo isn't a collectors car or a classic, its mass produced and not quite that old yet is it. The only person buying a ropey 2nd hand poverty spec Gallardo is someone who can't afford the one they really want. And I say this from the point of view of having bought a 2nd hand Gallardo myself. Albeit the e-gear.

[NEFOC]

KFC said:

NEFOC said:

Manuals will definitely be valued over e-gear

A gallardo isn't a collectors car or a classic, its mass produced and not quite that old yet is it. The only person buying a ropey 2nd hand poverty spec Gallardo is someone who can't afford the one they really want. And I say this from the point of view of having bought a 2nd hand Gallardo myself. Albeit the e-gear.

I did say the manual WILL.... as in the future, be valued over the e-gear, when it is being bought by somebody to keep, rather than own for the summer / couple of years. A current example of a car on the turn is the 355. The manual is definitely preferred over the F1 . It will be the same with the 360, even more so as the % of F1 increased. The Gallardo takes that % shift even further, therefore an even greater shift in price for the manual. So I guess it's when it is moving from being owned by the new/nearly new gang (you) to the collector/classic brigade (me).

I bought the Mrs an Aston DB9 3 years ago. I classed that as a newish purchase. Didn't really care that much about the spec as it was only going to be in the family for a short time (3 years in the end). However, if I was buying something for me to keep, it would most definitely be important to get exactly what I want, and manual would most definitely be important where the option exists.

As the collectors buy up the manuals, they become harder to obtain, and the price inflates, similar to the resin 308s discussed on another thread (where the e-gear v manual debate is replaced with resin v steel)

[andrew]

NEFOC said:

Manuals will definitely be valued over e-gear.

yeah, yeah

right up there with the red 2wd ones that no-one wanted new will soon be worth a fortune because no-one wanted them new...

my car uniquely* has no radio. offers over £0.5m considered

* not verified and possibly not entirely true

[AndrewD]

^ most pov spec car in the UK

[andrew]

AndrewD said:

^ most pov spec car in the UK

are you really sat in the restaurant, with you rarely visited and long suffering family, wasting quality time abusing me here ???

[AndrewD]

andrew said:

AndrewD said:

^ most pov spec car in the UK

are you really sat in the restaurant, with you rarely visited and long suffering family, wasting quality time abusing me here ???

No, we just got back to my flat

[andrew]

AndrewD said:

andrew said:

AndrewD said:

^ most pov spec car in the UK

are you really sat in the restaurant, with you rarely visited and long suffering family, wasting quality time abusing me here ???

No, we just got back to my flat

well that's alright then

[NEFOC]

andrew said:

yeah, yeah

right up there with the red 2wd ones that no-one wanted new will soon be worth a fortune because no-one wanted them new...

my car uniquely* has no radio. offers over £0.5m considered

* not verified and possibly not entirely true

Lol, no more like nobody wanted those McLaren F1s when they were new so they didn't make them all.

Actually scratch that, it's a bloody Gallardo, but still think manuals will be treasured in general on the crossover cars.

Not sure about those frequently fire bombed PETs, however......

[mrdemon]

Check out Ferrari 575 manuals

Way more expensive than the auto's.

[monthefish]

NEFOC said:

KFC said:

Why would they be more prized? Its not like they were a special edition or something... every single Lambo owner had the chance to spec it with Manual and only 1 in 10 did so. Nobody wanted manual new, so that filters down into 2nd hand sales too.

If its going to be used regularly then e-gear really is the way to go. If its a garage queen or a sunday morning drive only then maybe manual would be okay.

Manuals will definitely be valued over e-gear.

The buyers guides also suggest that, for the earlier cars at least, the manuals are less likely to be problematic.