Looking Good For Huracan Performante,The New Benchmark

Looking Good For Huracan Performante,The New Benchmark

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sone

4,587 posts

238 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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He's been doing it for years, I have never known an individual offend so many people and get away with it!

sardis

305 posts

176 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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Now the dust has settled a bit, presumably a ban is in place, just thought I'd reflect on the Performante. Spent quite a lot of time on the Lambo stand last Friday and enjoyed both the hospitality and the cars.
In the metal the car is very impressive with an aggressive stance helped by the wider front splitter and high rear spoiler. Must admit I am a bit old skool about carbon fibre but the forged composite is growing on me and the gloss version on both front splitter and rear spoiler looks very good. Still not convinced about the matte version on the inside, but I suspect it is a grower as well.
The matte orange suits the car well, and is a good addition to the matte palette, however I don't understand why the second Performante was a matte finish as well, it would have been good to see a solid colour car to compare with. The alcantara inside is great, Lambo seem to do a really rich black, but the laser cut is a bit too much for my taste, I preferred the relative simplicity of my 570SL, but I know it is available as an option not mandatory.
I really liked the centre lock wheels on the second car, they are very delicate by comparison and look very effective on the car probably a good choice if you like to see your colour coded calipers.
Managed to get hold of the price list on my return to the UK and specced 'my' car up to just under £250k. There's the rub, is the Performante worth an additional £100k to me, sadly not. It's lovely and beautiful, aggressive and purposeful but as I don't track my cars and I suspect much of the clever aero will be wasted on UK roads I shall have to wait until they return to the market.
This is in no way a pop at those that do, I think it will be a wonderful ownership proposition and the king of the ring crown is nice to have. As stated all of the above is just my thoughts and opinions I'm sure there will be many others, equally as valid.
As a final thought can I ask those that are going ahead to consider Giallo Inti, bicolore interior without the laser cut and centre locks please?
Enjoy.

RR50

73 posts

142 months

Friday 17th March 2017
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As an LP560 owner, I was a little underwhelmed when the Huracan first came out. It was technically better (especially the gearbox) but as a whole (similar to sardis' point on the Perf), I didn't feel it was worth the £100k to upgrade at the time. That's why I have kept my LP560 longer than any car I have ever owned! The Performante however moves the Huracan on to a point that I can get excited about the change. It looks so much better than a normal Huracan outside and in to my eyes. The whole package just feels more special like I wished the LP610 was originally. I hope the Perf feels a little more raw to drive than the LP610 and then all the boxes will be ticked for me.

I will be going for Giallo Inti, but I quite like the laser engraving as long as I don't have to have it on the floor mats as well (which is a bit much). I am going with the centre locks but I hope I can get them in gloss rather than matte.

Juno

Original Poster:

4,481 posts

249 months

Saturday 18th March 2017
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sardis said:
Now the dust has settled a bit, presumably a ban is in place, just thought I'd reflect on the Performante. Spent quite a lot of time on the Lambo stand last Friday and enjoyed both the hospitality and the cars.
In the metal the car is very impressive with an aggressive stance helped by the wider front splitter and high rear spoiler. Must admit I am a bit old skool about carbon fibre but the forged composite is growing on me and the gloss version on both front splitter and rear spoiler looks very good. Still not convinced about the matte version on the inside, but I suspect it is a grower as well.
The matte orange suits the car well, and is a good addition to the matte palette, however I don't understand why the second Performante was a matte finish as well, it would have been good to see a solid colour car to compare with. The alcantara inside is great, Lambo seem to do a really rich black, but the laser cut is a bit too much for my taste, I preferred the relative simplicity of my 570SL, but I know it is available as an option not mandatory.
I really liked the centre lock wheels on the second car, they are very delicate by comparison and look very effective on the car probably a good choice if you like to see your colour coded calipers.
Managed to get hold of the price list on my return to the UK and specced 'my' car up to just under £250k. There's the rub, is the Performante worth an additional £100k to me, sadly not. It's lovely and beautiful, aggressive and purposeful but as I don't track my cars and I suspect much of the clever aero will be wasted on UK roads I shall have to wait until they return to the market.
This is in no way a pop at those that do, I think it will be a wonderful ownership proposition and the king of the ring crown is nice to have. As stated all of the above is just my thoughts and opinions I'm sure there will be many others, equally as valid.
As a final thought can I ask those that are going ahead to consider Giallo Inti, bicolore interior without the laser cut and centre locks please?
Enjoy.
I certainly understand your point especially when a purchase is right on the threshold of your comfort zone,it will be interesting to see how these cars are specked and what their perceived values they will demand in the market. I've got mine at about 235k!

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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sardis said:
Now the dust has settled a bit, presumably a ban is in place, just thought I'd reflect on the Performante. Spent quite a lot of time on the Lambo stand last Friday and enjoyed both the hospitality and the cars.
In the metal the car is very impressive with an aggressive stance helped by the wider front splitter and high rear spoiler. Must admit I am a bit old skool about carbon fibre but the forged composite is growing on me and the gloss version on both front splitter and rear spoiler looks very good. Still not convinced about the matte version on the inside, but I suspect it is a grower as well.
The matte orange suits the car well, and is a good addition to the matte palette, however I don't understand why the second Performante was a matte finish as well, it would have been good to see a solid colour car to compare with. The alcantara inside is great, Lambo seem to do a really rich black, but the laser cut is a bit too much for my taste, I preferred the relative simplicity of my 570SL, but I know it is available as an option not mandatory.
I really liked the centre lock wheels on the second car, they are very delicate by comparison and look very effective on the car probably a good choice if you like to see your colour coded calipers.
Managed to get hold of the price list on my return to the UK and specced 'my' car up to just under £250k. There's the rub, is the Performante worth an additional £100k to me, sadly not. It's lovely and beautiful, aggressive and purposeful but as I don't track my cars and I suspect much of the clever aero will be wasted on UK roads I shall have to wait until they return to the market.
This is in no way a pop at those that do, I think it will be a wonderful ownership proposition and the king of the ring crown is nice to have. As stated all of the above is just my thoughts and opinions I'm sure there will be many others, equally as valid.
As a final thought can I ask those that are going ahead to consider Giallo Inti, bicolore interior without the laser cut and centre locks please?
Enjoy.
Just specced one up at my local dealer and its £245k near as damn it without going overboard. Everything is an option.
Like you I want to see what these come back on the used market at.

I bought a 1 year old 3k miles Gallardo Performante List £210k + for £140k.
I hope the Huracan doesn't drop that far but if it does at least I could have both an orange and yellow one and not have to make a colour choice decision.
I think the golden patch of speculating on these supercars may have been and gone as I cant see it fetching overs on that list price.
Anyone like to take a guess on realistic 1st and 2nd year depreciation ?

sone

4,587 posts

238 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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RamboLambo said:
sardis said:
Now the dust has settled a bit, presumably a ban is in place, just thought I'd reflect on the Performante. Spent quite a lot of time on the Lambo stand last Friday and enjoyed both the hospitality and the cars.
In the metal the car is very impressive with an aggressive stance helped by the wider front splitter and high rear spoiler. Must admit I am a bit old skool about carbon fibre but the forged composite is growing on me and the gloss version on both front splitter and rear spoiler looks very good. Still not convinced about the matte version on the inside, but I suspect it is a grower as well.
The matte orange suits the car well, and is a good addition to the matte palette, however I don't understand why the second Performante was a matte finish as well, it would have been good to see a solid colour car to compare with. The alcantara inside is great, Lambo seem to do a really rich black, but the laser cut is a bit too much for my taste, I preferred the relative simplicity of my 570SL, but I know it is available as an option not mandatory.
I really liked the centre lock wheels on the second car, they are very delicate by comparison and look very effective on the car probably a good choice if you like to see your colour coded calipers.
Managed to get hold of the price list on my return to the UK and specced 'my' car up to just under £250k. There's the rub, is the Performante worth an additional £100k to me, sadly not. It's lovely and beautiful, aggressive and purposeful but as I don't track my cars and I suspect much of the clever aero will be wasted on UK roads I shall have to wait until they return to the market.
This is in no way a pop at those that do, I think it will be a wonderful ownership proposition and the king of the ring crown is nice to have. As stated all of the above is just my thoughts and opinions I'm sure there will be many others, equally as valid.
As a final thought can I ask those that are going ahead to consider Giallo Inti, bicolore interior without the laser cut and centre locks please?
Enjoy.
Just specced one up at my local dealer and its £245k near as damn it without going overboard. Everything is an option.
Like you I want to see what these come back on the used market at.

I bought a 1 year old 3k miles Gallardo Performante List £210k + for £140k.
I hope the Huracan doesn't drop that far but if it does at least I could have both an orange and yellow one and not have to make a colour choice decision.
I think the golden patch of speculating on these supercars may have been and gone as I cant see it fetching overs on that list price.
Anyone like to take a guess on realistic 1st and 2nd year depreciation ?
As ever talking the other marques down but on the basis the std car has dropped no more than 40-50k over the last three years and limited supply of the new Performante I predict the depreciation will be glacial with overs being paid for the first 12 months.
Your Gallardo story bears no reference and that car (being a rare red) is probably worth nearer its list than what you paid for it now!

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Tuesday 21st March 2017
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Not only talking down Lamborghini but also reminding us that he's so incredibly wealthy he would rather get two of them simply to avoid having to choose a colour... And he thinks we all believe him.

Scott Alexander looks classy, modest and humble compared to you.


Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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RamboLambo said:
sardis said:
Now the dust has settled a bit, presumably a ban is in place, just thought I'd reflect on the Performante. Spent quite a lot of time on the Lambo stand last Friday and enjoyed both the hospitality and the cars.
In the metal the car is very impressive with an aggressive stance helped by the wider front splitter and high rear spoiler. Must admit I am a bit old skool about carbon fibre but the forged composite is growing on me and the gloss version on both front splitter and rear spoiler looks very good. Still not convinced about the matte version on the inside, but I suspect it is a grower as well.
The matte orange suits the car well, and is a good addition to the matte palette, however I don't understand why the second Performante was a matte finish as well, it would have been good to see a solid colour car to compare with. The alcantara inside is great, Lambo seem to do a really rich black, but the laser cut is a bit too much for my taste, I preferred the relative simplicity of my 570SL, but I know it is available as an option not mandatory.
I really liked the centre lock wheels on the second car, they are very delicate by comparison and look very effective on the car probably a good choice if you like to see your colour coded calipers.
Managed to get hold of the price list on my return to the UK and specced 'my' car up to just under £250k. There's the rub, is the Performante worth an additional £100k to me, sadly not. It's lovely and beautiful, aggressive and purposeful but as I don't track my cars and I suspect much of the clever aero will be wasted on UK roads I shall have to wait until they return to the market.
This is in no way a pop at those that do, I think it will be a wonderful ownership proposition and the king of the ring crown is nice to have. As stated all of the above is just my thoughts and opinions I'm sure there will be many others, equally as valid.
As a final thought can I ask those that are going ahead to consider Giallo Inti, bicolore interior without the laser cut and centre locks please?
Enjoy.
Just specced one up at my local dealer and its £245k near as damn it without going overboard. Everything is an option.
Like you I want to see what these come back on the used market at.

I bought a 1 year old 3k miles Gallardo Performante List £210k + for £140k.
I hope the Huracan doesn't drop that far but if it does at least I could have both an orange and yellow one and not have to make a colour choice decision.
I think the golden patch of speculating on these supercars may have been and gone as I cant see it fetching overs on that list price.
Anyone like to take a guess on realistic 1st and 2nd year depreciation ?
With Gallardo manuals now fetching around £350k, Lambo being the new king of the Ring, and the Huracan Performante being the fastest supercar on Earth by a huge margin, it is fair to speculate the Huracan Performante could see some big price rises when they hit the used market in the next 1 to 24 months. Expect to see them listed at £300-400k before then end of the year. Wouldn't be a surprise to see Gallardo Superleggeras, the spiritual father of the HP, rise in sympathy, too.

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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You're just as bad but at the other end of the spectrum.

Why do these cars bring out the children in some grown men?

I honestly don't understand how adults with the wherewithal to make the money to buy these cars regress, to their kindergarten years and clutter the forums with infantile point scoring, wumming and top trump bks.

Please stop!

Juno

Original Poster:

4,481 posts

249 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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PurpleAki said:
You're just as bad but at the other end of the spectrum.

Why do these cars bring out the children in some grown men?

I honestly don't understand how adults with the wherewithal to make the money to buy these cars regress, to their kindergarten years and clutter the forums with infantile point scoring, wumming and top trump bks.

Please stop!
Purple, Yipper could be right about the future,Manual Balbonis are silly money and the Perfotrmante could go 300k plus, so why not post your comments in a reply that you think Yipper is right or wrong and In your opinion for what reasons.

It is not Yipper that is making silly comments about one in each colour is it?

Lets keep away from calling other posters childish for no good reason, unless of course some of those other poster are in fact just that!

In response I got a very good spec at 232K so 245 is unnecessary for this type of car!

br d

8,401 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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PurpleAki said:
You're just as bad but at the other end of the spectrum.

Why do these cars bring out the children in some grown men?

I honestly don't understand how adults with the wherewithal to make the money to buy these cars regress, to their kindergarten years and clutter the forums with infantile point scoring, wumming and top trump bks.

Please stop!
Amen mate.

"The fastest Supercar on earth by a huge margin"

It's pure marketing speak, I don't know how you could read that back and still post it.

MDL111

6,948 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Juno said:
PurpleAki said:
You're just as bad but at the other end of the spectrum.

Why do these cars bring out the children in some grown men?

I honestly don't understand how adults with the wherewithal to make the money to buy these cars regress, to their kindergarten years and clutter the forums with infantile point scoring, wumming and top trump bks.

Please stop!
Purple, Yipper could be right about the future,Manual Balbonis are silly money and the Perfotrmante could go 300k plus, so why not post your comments in a reply that you think Yipper is right or wrong and In your opinion for what reasons.

It is not Yipper that is making silly comments about one in each colour is it?

Lets keep away from calling other posters childish for no good reason, unless of course some of those other poster are in fact just that!

In response I got a very good spec at 232K so 245 is unnecessary for this type of car!
The conversations on the various Performante threads do sound like it is 12 year olds playing top trumps - it is like a car crash that I can't turn away from, but cringeworthy nonetheless

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Not trying to rubbish the brand at all considering I'm thinking of buying one.

Genuine question on its future value given Gallardo Performante historical value performance - Fact £210 to £140k in year 1

I don't see that being repeated on Huracan as the Gallardo was at the end of its 10 years reign and Huracan was coming whereas huracan is only 3 years in but equally I do not see over list price and certainly not £300k. Lamborghini special editions have never been as strong as ferraris

The very first few might fetch a premium purely due to someone considerably richer than me wanting to jump the queue but after 6 months who knows how far south they will tumble

WCZ

10,529 posts

194 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Yipper said:
With Gallardo manuals now fetching around £350k.
"Lamborghini Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni Special Edition. Being 1 of 250 cars made worldwide and only 1 of 3 right-hand drive manuals"

I presume this is what you're referring to? 1 of 3 cars is a diff league of rarity than the Performante and considering you can get a RHD Valentino semi-auto for £150,000, we are talking about a £200,000 premium for a manual gearbox

MDL111

6,948 posts

177 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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RamboLambo said:
Not trying to rubbish the brand at all considering I'm thinking of buying one.

Genuine question on its future value given Gallardo Performante historical value performance - Fact £210 to £140k in year 1

I don't see that being repeated on Huracan as the Gallardo was at the end of its 10 years reign and Huracan was coming whereas huracan is only 3 years in but equally I do not see over list price and certainly not £300k. Lamborghini special editions have never been as strong as ferraris

The very first few might fetch a premium purely due to someone considerably richer than me wanting to jump the queue but after 6 months who knows how far south they will tumble
Well the SV is trading for more than list, isn't it?

The Gallardo was at a different time - 599 GTO was trading below list and a gazillion other cars were worth a fraction of today's values. Even 4-5 years ago was completely different to today - it is a new world out there.

PurpleAki

1,601 posts

87 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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The 650s is the only vehicle on earth that's going to appreciate. We get told this often enough...

Bunty Killa

517 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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I watched Apex last night (on Netflix) about the birth of the Hypercars. All the manufacturers test all cars on the track to give them a better understanding of the car ie. aero, suspension, etc. They say it help's them to see how good the car will be on normal roads and Nurburgring ring being the pinnacle track to test it on. So for a normal production car like the Performante to out perform all the hypercars is truly amazing!

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Yipper said:
With Gallardo manuals now fetching around £350k,
Is that true??

If so, the world's gone even madder.
How can one be worth x3 a manual Murci.........?

Davo456gt

695 posts

149 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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WCZ said:
"Lamborghini Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni Special Edition. Being 1 of 250 cars made worldwide and only 1 of 3 right-hand drive manuals"

I presume this is what you're referring to? 1 of 3 cars is a diff league of rarity than the Performante and considering you can get a RHD Valentino semi-auto for £150,000, we are talking about a £200,000 premium for a manual gearbox
Think they only made 185 of the planned 250 btw, makes it even rarer!

WDISMYL

235 posts

87 months

Wednesday 22nd March 2017
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Soon everyone is going to own a "rare" car being one of the latest particular limited edition - it's becoming rather tedious.

My mother-in-law is rare - only one - any buyers?

This forum is going to be an interesting read in 10 years, just like it was after the last "commodity cycle" in classic car prices.

Buy the cars because you can afford the depreciation and if they appreciate - then enjoy the additional bonus.

Questions on expected value are equally tedious - nobody knows. And vested interests naturally bias their answers!

Performante looks like a lot of fun - enjoy.