Performante Options ...

Performante Options ...

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topjay

775 posts

219 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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RamboLambo said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYbWaf2vQ6M

Better than a 458 speciale from a Lambo hater and Ferrari fanboy. High praise indeed

Edited by RamboLambo on Wednesday 24th January 17:40
Yeah I can always tell how good a zero mile car is the second I sit in it. Won’t even feel like it should until it’s got a couple of thousand miles on it. Also he’s a car dealer and will sell it on, good old YouTube reviews.

They are good though, I know a few people that actually use them, going to take a bit hit though as loads delivered imo.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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topjay said:
Yeah I can always tell how good a zero mile car is the second I sit in it. Won’t even feel like it should until it’s got a couple of thousand miles on it. Also he’s a car dealer and will sell it on, good old YouTube reviews.

They are good though, I know a few people that actually use them, going to take a bit hit though as loads delivered imo.
Loads ?? My local Lambo dealer had an allocation of 7 for 2017 and 15 for 2018 and is sold out apparently. That sounds relatively few compared with the demand if you ask me

famoussas

641 posts

184 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Look how many are for sale in the classifieds already.

Doesn't seem worth the hassle for a comparatively minor profit.


sardis

305 posts

177 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Hmm, I know one of the trusted contributors indicated he paid slightly over for his Performante but I think the numbers that are emerging each week suggests to me that a premium is likely to disappear very quickly if not already. Plus there are some fairly marmite colours in the mix as well so I’m not convinced there are profits to be had.
It is influencing my decision on the Performante Spyder, not because I am intending to flip, but just in the unlikely event I did have to sell it quickly. As discussed elsewhere the market in general is cooling, there are new ‘specials’ released just about every month and the Performante has already lost its ‘King of the ring’ title, all food for thought.
Mind you every time I listen to a video, especially the new Grand Tour one, I think JFDI. smile Cheers.

Edited by sardis on Thursday 25th January 15:23

Never you mind

1,507 posts

113 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Seems advertised prices are about 25K - 35K over list. Wonder if they are going for anywhere near that?

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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sardis said:
Hmm, I know one of the trusted contributors indicated he paid slightly over for his Performante but I think the numbers that are emerging each week suggests to me that a premium is likely to disappear very quickly if not already. Plus there are some fairly marmite colours in the mix as well so I’m not convinced there are profits to be had.
It is influencing my decision on the Performante Spyder, not because I am intending to flip, but just in the unlikely event I did have to sell it quickly. As discussed elsewhere the market in general is cooling, there are new ‘specials’ released just about every month and the Performante has already lost its ‘King of the ring’ title, all food for thought.
Mind you every time I listen to a video, especially the new Grand Tour one, I think JFDI. Cheers.
Seriously JFDI !!

V10 normally aspirated engine that sounds awesome. They can release as many as they like ballistically quick turbo charged specials but they will not be anywhere near as Special as the Performante. Its a dying breed and the pinnacle in terms of driving dynamics and not previously seen with the Lamborghini brand. Not only does it look and sound spectacular but with the fantastic DCT and ALA active aero it drives spectacularly well to boot. If Tony from Gravelwood, who is not a Lambo fan says its like the step up from F430 to 458 its a whole new generation car up and above the standard Huracan.

I counted 11 for sale by early flippers which in the scale of things is quite small and less than the 720S. Once the initial flippers are gone the majority of people have bought to hold onto them so I'm not expecting a glut of cars on the market. Once people start driving them, like Tony they will not want to let them go not even for a hefty premium. Tony said he wouldn't swap his £250k Performante for a £300k+ Speciale its that good.
High praise indeed from a Ferrari fanboy and Lambo hater, who quite clearly is being converted by the Performante

Top priced car at £290k is which is £50k over its specced list price

Edited by RamboLambo on Thursday 25th January 14:53

Gameface

16,565 posts

78 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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You change your tune according to what you might purchase. Nothing more.

theRossatron

1,028 posts

233 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Ferruccio said:
Go and pick it up at the factory, have a look around the new production facility and drive it back!
I'd be happy to do this for you for free.

sopes1

26 posts

87 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Full deposit paid for the Spider. I appreciate the need to ensure you don't drop a b*llock on a new car but it would be quite refreshing to hear people talking about the actual ownership of the bloody things and not if they might make some cash. When I'm dribbling into a pot and I can't wipe my own bum I will take pleasure in the memories these sorts of cars allow us. It's a complete honour to be in a position to own these cars if you're fortunate enough to afford them and as a life long car fan I am beyond excited at the prospect of having this beast joining the stable.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Gameface said:
You change your tune according to what you might purchase. Nothing more.
Nope, I simply express an opinion based on a car I have driven. I have no loyalty to Lambo, Ferrari or McLaren per se. In fact I will shortly own all 3.
They are all different and equally great for varying reasons.

Expressing an opinion without driving a car is simply wrong IMHO

sardis

305 posts

177 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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sopes1 said:
Full deposit paid for the Spider. I appreciate the need to ensure you don't drop a b*llock on a new car but it would be quite refreshing to hear people talking about the actual ownership of the bloody things and not if they might make some cash. When I'm dribbling into a pot and I can't wipe my own bum I will take pleasure in the memories these sorts of cars allow us. It's a complete honour to be in a position to own these cars if you're fortunate enough to afford them and as a life long car fan I am beyond excited at the prospect of having this beast joining the stable.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I refer you to my previous post ‘Why I love my Huracan’. I drive them and I love them and I don’t buy them as a speculation. However, I bought my Gen2 Superleggera, which was 4 months old and less than 2,000 miles on the clock for exactly £40k less than the list price. You can buy a lot of fun for that sort of money and I guess that is my point, I see a similar situation with the new Performante. Just an opinion and I am just as likely to buy it as not.

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Girls like it to, especially in Rosso Mars :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncEdYF8ja2w

Subtitles required :

She "has never had so much fun in a car " " and "its the biggest smile I've ever had on my face" lol

Yipper

5,964 posts

91 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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The Huracan Performante is simply in a whole different league to every Ferrari and McLaren on the planet right now. Within 60secs of driving it, you quickly see it makes the 488 feel dull, the 458S look slow, and the 720S handle like a bag of wet spaghetti. It even makes the Aventador S feel wallowy and outdated. Only the GT2 RS is in the same class at the moment, but that lacks the badge cachet. Can see the Huracan Performante following a similar price curve to the Aventador SV, longterm. They are both a masterpiece.

zedmtrappe

248 posts

97 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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sopes1 said:
Full deposit paid for the Spider.
Excellent! That will be the one to have I reckon & I'm very tempted to do the same.... though would mean selling my G Perf which I'm very fondly attached to!

What premium over the coupe do you think for the Spyder?

sopes1 said:
I appreciate the need to ensure you don't drop a b*llock on a new car but...


Yeah its incredible to think it really wasn't that long ago that if you were buying new you were guaranteed instant depreciation, and if you bought second hand the best you could hope for was that you were at the bottom of the depreciation curve!

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Thursday 25th January 2018
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Spider will be £20k above coupe and it will be interesting to see what changes to the ALA system there are to accommodate the soft top. Put my deposit down at same time as the coupe and was 1st with my Lambo dealer

I love spiders but in a way I think its a bit of a compromise for a track biased car ( McLaren maybe excepted due to the carbon tub but still extra weight )

Didn't seem to harm 430 16 M or 458 Speciale Aperta though.

May have to decide to let one of the Performantes go to accommodate another McLaren when it arrives in 2019 probably

Edited by RamboLambo on Thursday 25th January 22:35

KHK

482 posts

85 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Submitted by spec for a MY19 HP coupe but I'll be doing some ad personam interior bits to make it 1 of 1. I plan to keep my car, no reason to flip it because its a future collectable and rumors right now are the HP allocation will get tighter for MY19 and beyond. No ones really explained why the possible decrease in production but one rumor is the use of forged carbon will limit how many HP's will be built.

sone

4,587 posts

239 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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KHK said:
Submitted by spec for a MY19 HP coupe but I'll be doing some ad personam interior bits to make it 1 of 1. I plan to keep my car, no reason to flip it because its a future collectable and rumors right now are the HP allocation will get tighter for MY19 and beyond. No ones really explained why the possible decrease in production but one rumor is the use of forged carbon will limit how many HP's will be built.
I wouldn't take much stock in rumours with Lamborghini. When I bought my first Aventador I was told they would not produce more than 5.5k thousand cars as the buck that they make the carbon chassis on would be worn out by that stage. They surpassed this number some time ago and have a new model recently released so go figure.
I think the one thing that will make a difference is that the original Huracan I believe could not be imported to some parts of the states so we had a deluge of cars which stagnated the market over here. That problem is now resolved and while it is possible to get a HP I don't think the dealers have endless supply, in fact the numbers are quite low.
Get the flippers out of the way when they realise these cars will hardly sell at a premium and that premium will barely cover main dealer charges if they manage it and then we'll see where the market really is. I wouldn't expect to make any money on my HP but I would expect to lose less than on the standard car.

WCZ

10,537 posts

195 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Yipper said:
The Huracan Performante is simply in a whole different league to every Ferrari and McLaren on the planet right now. Within 60secs of driving it, you quickly see it makes the 488 feel dull, the 458S look slow, and the 720S handle like a bag of wet spaghetti. It even makes the Aventador S feel wallowy and outdated. Only the GT2 RS is in the same class at the moment, but that lacks the badge cachet. Can see the Huracan Performante following a similar price curve to the Aventador SV, longterm. They are both a masterpiece.
what about the P1 GTR LM ?

Bunty Killa

518 posts

200 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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Not a production car

WCZ said:
what about the P1 GTR LM ?

GameOverMan!

332 posts

198 months

Friday 26th January 2018
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sone said:
I wouldn't take much stock in rumours with Lamborghini. When I bought my first Aventador I was told they would not produce more than 5.5k thousand cars as the buck that they make the carbon chassis on would be worn out by that stage. They surpassed this number some time ago and have a new model recently released so go figure.

I think the one thing that will make a difference is that the original Huracan I believe could not be imported to some parts of the states so we had a deluge of cars which stagnated the market over here. That problem is now resolved and while it is possible to get a HP I don't think the dealers have endless supply, in fact the numbers are quite low.

Get the flippers out of the way when they realise these cars will hardly sell at a premium and that premium will barely cover main dealer charges if they manage it and then we'll see where the market really is. I wouldn't expect to make any money on my HP but I would expect to lose less than on the standard car.
Here speaks someone with experience - forget the hype and some contacts at main dealers are significantly better than others. It's also amusing those that some who say a carbon tub is essential have now changed their tune. The limited warranty side of Lamborghini in comparison to Ferrari has also limited there used values as well.

Buy what stirs your soul not the mags or Internet nuggets tell you is awesome..