Performante track mods: How?
Discussion
Fantastic car. But I spend so much time at the track I'd need to sort out these issues that are easily sorted with any GT Porsches:
- How to get proper racing seat belts in place? Factory buckets don't have enough opening for the belts, I have found Technocraft makes seats with their seat kit for the Performante, like here, https://technocraft.myshopify.com/collections/lamb... Any experience? I am afraid the issue is how to solve the airbag warning due to the weight sensor of the original seat. I believe when taking out the original seats you get airbag warning light and can't fix it away - or can you, how? Ohh, I guess the warranty will be gone already with the seat change project alone
- For the racing belts, any other options for harness bar than the one VF Engineering has, http://www.vfengineering.com/new-product-vf-huraca... ?
- How to get racing brake pads for the car with the ceramic brakes, or do you change to a steel setup and if so, to which steel setup with racing pads? I have again heard the stock pads die very quickly at the track. Manthey already has better track pads for their Porsche ceramics available...
- How to get more camber for the suspension, I have heard the stock setup with shims is quite limited for additional camber while with Trofeo R or any other semislick tire you would really benefit from huge camber for both longevity and performance?
- Speaking of tires are Trofeo R's spinnng on the factory wheels like they unfortunately do in a majority of cars with higher power unless you buy proper motorsport wheels with knurled wheel bead seats? I'm used to buying another set in any case but nice to know.
- Can you adjust the sway bars or can you upgrade to adjustable sway bars to sort out the handling? Most cars have too much understeer at the limit in stock form..
- Finally, there has been issues at the Nordschleife that the quickest Corsa setup may have too stiff suspension but you cannot independently put the suspension softer without losing the quickest shifts, any experience/improvement on this? Also, for the Nordschleife use are the magneto shocks superior and what about the steering? Can you spot from the old Ring record video or have you asked Lambo did their record car have the magneto shocks and which steering? I'm just worried/surprised why I don't see fast Lambos there.
The car is superb but I'm tad disappointed why Lambo can't have solutions for these basic issues. I have now waited over a year for Lambo to come up with some kind of "Track Pack" or "Clubsport Pack" for the car but nothing happened. These issues stay the same even with the Aventador SVJ, while they are providing active aero and all sorts of cool stuff, why can't they provide the basics for people who really drive at the track? Customers themselves interested only in boulevard driving and I should stick with Porsches?
Many thanks in advance!
- How to get proper racing seat belts in place? Factory buckets don't have enough opening for the belts, I have found Technocraft makes seats with their seat kit for the Performante, like here, https://technocraft.myshopify.com/collections/lamb... Any experience? I am afraid the issue is how to solve the airbag warning due to the weight sensor of the original seat. I believe when taking out the original seats you get airbag warning light and can't fix it away - or can you, how? Ohh, I guess the warranty will be gone already with the seat change project alone
- For the racing belts, any other options for harness bar than the one VF Engineering has, http://www.vfengineering.com/new-product-vf-huraca... ?
- How to get racing brake pads for the car with the ceramic brakes, or do you change to a steel setup and if so, to which steel setup with racing pads? I have again heard the stock pads die very quickly at the track. Manthey already has better track pads for their Porsche ceramics available...
- How to get more camber for the suspension, I have heard the stock setup with shims is quite limited for additional camber while with Trofeo R or any other semislick tire you would really benefit from huge camber for both longevity and performance?
- Speaking of tires are Trofeo R's spinnng on the factory wheels like they unfortunately do in a majority of cars with higher power unless you buy proper motorsport wheels with knurled wheel bead seats? I'm used to buying another set in any case but nice to know.
- Can you adjust the sway bars or can you upgrade to adjustable sway bars to sort out the handling? Most cars have too much understeer at the limit in stock form..
- Finally, there has been issues at the Nordschleife that the quickest Corsa setup may have too stiff suspension but you cannot independently put the suspension softer without losing the quickest shifts, any experience/improvement on this? Also, for the Nordschleife use are the magneto shocks superior and what about the steering? Can you spot from the old Ring record video or have you asked Lambo did their record car have the magneto shocks and which steering? I'm just worried/surprised why I don't see fast Lambos there.
The car is superb but I'm tad disappointed why Lambo can't have solutions for these basic issues. I have now waited over a year for Lambo to come up with some kind of "Track Pack" or "Clubsport Pack" for the car but nothing happened. These issues stay the same even with the Aventador SVJ, while they are providing active aero and all sorts of cool stuff, why can't they provide the basics for people who really drive at the track? Customers themselves interested only in boulevard driving and I should stick with Porsches?
Many thanks in advance!
Hi there, I can't help with above unfortunately but also feel your frustration.
I also have a GT3 that I love to take to the track. I also have a Performante but it's too loud for most tracks in the UK, I understand it need a +105db limit.
Has anyone had mufflers fitted or another solution?
I also have a GT3 that I love to take to the track. I also have a Performante but it's too loud for most tracks in the UK, I understand it need a +105db limit.
Has anyone had mufflers fitted or another solution?
Kaizu said:
Fantastic car. But I spend so much time at the track I'd need to sort out these issues that are easily sorted with any GT Porsches:
- How to get proper racing seat belts in place? Factory buckets don't have enough opening for the belts, I have found Technocraft makes seats with their seat kit for the Performante, like here, https://technocraft.myshopify.com/collections/lamb... Any experience? I am afraid the issue is how to solve the airbag warning due to the weight sensor of the original seat. I believe when taking out the original seats you get airbag warning light and can't fix it away - or can you, how? Ohh, I guess the warranty will be gone already with the seat change project alone
- For the racing belts, any other options for harness bar than the one VF Engineering has, http://www.vfengineering.com/new-product-vf-huraca... ?
- How to get racing brake pads for the car with the ceramic brakes, or do you change to a steel setup and if so, to which steel setup with racing pads? I have again heard the stock pads die very quickly at the track. Manthey already has better track pads for their Porsche ceramics available...
- How to get more camber for the suspension, I have heard the stock setup with shims is quite limited for additional camber while with Trofeo R or any other semislick tire you would really benefit from huge camber for both longevity and performance?
- Speaking of tires are Trofeo R's spinnng on the factory wheels like they unfortunately do in a majority of cars with higher power unless you buy proper motorsport wheels with knurled wheel bead seats? I'm used to buying another set in any case but nice to know.
- Can you adjust the sway bars or can you upgrade to adjustable sway bars to sort out the handling? Most cars have too much understeer at the limit in stock form..
- Finally, there has been issues at the Nordschleife that the quickest Corsa setup may have too stiff suspension but you cannot independently put the suspension softer without losing the quickest shifts, any experience/improvement on this? Also, for the Nordschleife use are the magneto shocks superior and what about the steering? Can you spot from the old Ring record video or have you asked Lambo did their record car have the magneto shocks and which steering? I'm just worried/surprised why I don't see fast Lambos there.
The car is superb but I'm tad disappointed why Lambo can't have solutions for these basic issues. I have now waited over a year for Lambo to come up with some kind of "Track Pack" or "Clubsport Pack" for the car but nothing happened. These issues stay the same even with the Aventador SVJ, while they are providing active aero and all sorts of cool stuff, why can't they provide the basics for people who really drive at the track? Customers themselves interested only in boulevard driving and I should stick with Porsches?
Many thanks in advance!
KAIZU - Have you made any progress in getting answers to any of your questions / thoughts about improving the car for track. Many of your points are similar to things I have been thinking about the car. - How to get proper racing seat belts in place? Factory buckets don't have enough opening for the belts, I have found Technocraft makes seats with their seat kit for the Performante, like here, https://technocraft.myshopify.com/collections/lamb... Any experience? I am afraid the issue is how to solve the airbag warning due to the weight sensor of the original seat. I believe when taking out the original seats you get airbag warning light and can't fix it away - or can you, how? Ohh, I guess the warranty will be gone already with the seat change project alone
- For the racing belts, any other options for harness bar than the one VF Engineering has, http://www.vfengineering.com/new-product-vf-huraca... ?
- How to get racing brake pads for the car with the ceramic brakes, or do you change to a steel setup and if so, to which steel setup with racing pads? I have again heard the stock pads die very quickly at the track. Manthey already has better track pads for their Porsche ceramics available...
- How to get more camber for the suspension, I have heard the stock setup with shims is quite limited for additional camber while with Trofeo R or any other semislick tire you would really benefit from huge camber for both longevity and performance?
- Speaking of tires are Trofeo R's spinnng on the factory wheels like they unfortunately do in a majority of cars with higher power unless you buy proper motorsport wheels with knurled wheel bead seats? I'm used to buying another set in any case but nice to know.
- Can you adjust the sway bars or can you upgrade to adjustable sway bars to sort out the handling? Most cars have too much understeer at the limit in stock form..
- Finally, there has been issues at the Nordschleife that the quickest Corsa setup may have too stiff suspension but you cannot independently put the suspension softer without losing the quickest shifts, any experience/improvement on this? Also, for the Nordschleife use are the magneto shocks superior and what about the steering? Can you spot from the old Ring record video or have you asked Lambo did their record car have the magneto shocks and which steering? I'm just worried/surprised why I don't see fast Lambos there.
The car is superb but I'm tad disappointed why Lambo can't have solutions for these basic issues. I have now waited over a year for Lambo to come up with some kind of "Track Pack" or "Clubsport Pack" for the car but nothing happened. These issues stay the same even with the Aventador SVJ, while they are providing active aero and all sorts of cool stuff, why can't they provide the basics for people who really drive at the track? Customers themselves interested only in boulevard driving and I should stick with Porsches?
Many thanks in advance!
I did put shims on mine and think I went 2.5degrees negative camber on the front and 2.2degrees on the rear (from memory), I believe the camber can go more with that setup and I think it needs it. I was still suffering with understeer so what I had done was not enough to dial it out plus I could see from my tyres too that on both front and rear I was running too far over on to the sidewalls (I put on Michellin Cup2's).
I would like to be able to get adjustable sway bars for the car but there doesn't seem to be any on the market, or at least I have not found any yet. Don't think you can adjust the standard bars, plus you cannot adjust the ride height, unless you go for shorter springs like the Novitec.
I changed over to steel discs (Girodisc) and ran Pagid RS29 pads which is a setup I have used previously on one or two other cars in place of Ceramics.
I was contemplating selling and getting a Porsche Gen 2 GT3 RS simply because of the easy of being able to do things to the car. A friend of mine let me drive his Gen 2 GT3 RS both at Silverstone and at Spa (did not have the Perf those times so did not do back to back comparison) and I was kind of thinking that driving the RS would sell me on the idea of switching but it just reinforced to me how good the Perf is, the RS's PDK box is fantastic and extremely quick but the Perf is almost as good but has added drama involved because of all the noise out of the back end on down shifts and the whole car is just more a sense of occasion. All in all it just made me think that with a few handling bits done to the Perf it would be bang on but whilst it seems 'styling' parts are available out there, performance specific parts less so....
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