Performante - talk to me :)
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sixspeed said:
Nope, none at all. Maybe its a height thing. I'm 5'7, my passenger 5'9. We had one day where we suffered a little towards the end of the day, but we were driving for 9 hours in total by the time we got to our hotel! But everyone in the convoy was suffering by then, even a friend in his armchaired F12! It was more a numb arse than a painful back though!
Hand on heart, I have none of the problems with the buckets that people claim on a lot of these forums. I also couldn't imagine owning a Performante with the bulkier sport seats tbh, and if I were to buy again i'd stick with the carbon seats on my spec without a moments hesitation. I think the buckets, with the Performante laser-etching design (another option I don't understand why people omit) just lift the interior that extra notch, feeling that bit more special, and really adds to the sense of occasion. As others have said , the comforts sit too high, and have a lack of support compared to the carbon seats. The height thing was very noticeable after trying both (well, a standard Huracan with sport seats, and a Perf demo with the buckets).
As for pricing and resale, I struggle to buy that remark that Craig is stating (but I'm not looking to sell or buy, so can't comment first-hand). As the market matures, and experiences between the two spread, I'd be surprised if that shift in prices doesn't skew the other way though. Just with regard to the whole concept of the Performante, if I were looking to buy on the 2nd-hand market, a car with the electric sport seats wouldn't even get a look in, much the way I'd ignore a GT3/GT4 etc with comfort seats. It's not like these cars are daily drivers, so why do you need powered, heated seats anyway (the only reason I can see to opt for them IMO)? Not to mention the added weight (a lot of weight saving in the Perf comes from those seats).
I would definitely be in this camp of thinking when it comes to bucket seats.Hand on heart, I have none of the problems with the buckets that people claim on a lot of these forums. I also couldn't imagine owning a Performante with the bulkier sport seats tbh, and if I were to buy again i'd stick with the carbon seats on my spec without a moments hesitation. I think the buckets, with the Performante laser-etching design (another option I don't understand why people omit) just lift the interior that extra notch, feeling that bit more special, and really adds to the sense of occasion. As others have said , the comforts sit too high, and have a lack of support compared to the carbon seats. The height thing was very noticeable after trying both (well, a standard Huracan with sport seats, and a Perf demo with the buckets).
As for pricing and resale, I struggle to buy that remark that Craig is stating (but I'm not looking to sell or buy, so can't comment first-hand). As the market matures, and experiences between the two spread, I'd be surprised if that shift in prices doesn't skew the other way though. Just with regard to the whole concept of the Performante, if I were looking to buy on the 2nd-hand market, a car with the electric sport seats wouldn't even get a look in, much the way I'd ignore a GT3/GT4 etc with comfort seats. It's not like these cars are daily drivers, so why do you need powered, heated seats anyway (the only reason I can see to opt for them IMO)? Not to mention the added weight (a lot of weight saving in the Perf comes from those seats).
Edited by sixspeed on Tuesday 9th October 13:20
I completely ruled out many a Porsche GT3 in the past because they had the comfort seat option. It just seems wrong in a hardcore car.
Normally I would say its less important on a spyder than a coupe but in the case of the Huracan I think its even more important to have the lower bucket seats as otherwise you sit far too high in relation to the windscreen.
At a relatively short 5'11" I felt I was looking straight at the top of the windscreen frame when I sat in a normal spyder with comfort seats at Pangbourne
If you are over 6 ft I think you are going to struggle with the comfort seats IMHO as you can't even rake the seat back far enough because of the firewall behind.
It seems to be a poor design by Lamborghini that neither seat works perfectly but the lesser of the 2 evils would appear to be the bucket seats for me personally
AndrewD said:
The bucket seats are nowhere near as good as Porsche ones and they don’t seem to sit you all that much lower certainly not in the Spyders I tried. Factory confirmed they don’t offer any way of sitting lower either.
By way of them being thinner, due to less padding, and none of the electrical gubbins, you sit lower in the bucket seat than the "comfort" seat.AndrewD said:
The bucket seats are nowhere near as good as Porsche ones and they don’t seem to sit you all that much lower certainly not in the Spyders I tried. Factory confirmed they don’t offer any way of sitting lower either.
I agree the Porsche buckets are better with more padding and you don't have the same headroom issueThe Huracan ones are very firm with very little if any foam but with regards the height issue It may only be 2 or 3 inches lower but for a lot of people that will be critical. You can visibly see the bulk of the electrics and padded seat base on the comfort seats
It seems to me that in the spyder roofline is lower than that of the coupe and from what I can see the windscreen is raked more and this makes the seating situation more important.
I'm not in the market for a Huracan let alone a Performante but all I can say is I would definitely go and sit in both like I did on Saturday as there is not a clear cut answer.
I think its very personal.
You can always buy a lumbar cushion but cutting off your head to fit in is not an option I would choose
Good discussion here and glad I started this thread 
I have been speaking to a couple of dealers via various friends and sources. Have managed to get £25k off a Coupe cancelled order and also been offered £20k off a few unregistered Spyders too!
I'm actually even more confused now as if these are the kinds of discount being offered Im not too sure how the residuals will behave after a year or so when the new model arrives.
Yes I know these cars are bought to be enjoyed, driven blah blah but at the end of the day I don't want to be taking a very wet bath on one!
I have been speaking to a couple of dealers via various friends and sources. Have managed to get £25k off a Coupe cancelled order and also been offered £20k off a few unregistered Spyders too!
I'm actually even more confused now as if these are the kinds of discount being offered Im not too sure how the residuals will behave after a year or so when the new model arrives.
Yes I know these cars are bought to be enjoyed, driven blah blah but at the end of the day I don't want to be taking a very wet bath on one!
PrancingHorses said:
Good discussion here and glad I started this thread
I have been speaking to a couple of dealers via various friends and sources. Have managed to get £25k off a Coupe cancelled order and also been offered £20k off a few unregistered Spyders too!
I'm actually even more confused now as if these are the kinds of discount being offered Im not too sure how the residuals will behave after a year or so when the new model arrives.
Yes I know these cars are bought to be enjoyed, driven blah blah but at the end of the day I don't want to be taking a very wet bath on one!
Winters coming so just wait till Spring/Summer and see where HP prices are once the refresh is announced. In my opinion you'll lose more or the less the same amount of money on the refresh so anyway you slice it you're going to be taking a very wet bath. I have been speaking to a couple of dealers via various friends and sources. Have managed to get £25k off a Coupe cancelled order and also been offered £20k off a few unregistered Spyders too!
I'm actually even more confused now as if these are the kinds of discount being offered Im not too sure how the residuals will behave after a year or so when the new model arrives.
Yes I know these cars are bought to be enjoyed, driven blah blah but at the end of the day I don't want to be taking a very wet bath on one!
If anyone thinks they’re going to buy a new super car of any brand and not take a bath they are kidding themselves especially in the current climate, be it Lamborghini, Ferrari, Maclaren or whatever. You will lose 50k in the first year if you want to sell back into the trade so if can’t stomach it don’t do it.
On a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
On a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
sone said:
If anyone thinks they’re going to buy a new super car of any brand and not take a bath they are kidding themselves especially in the current climate, be it Lamborghini, Ferrari, Maclaren or whatever. You will lose 50k in the first year if you want to sell back into the trade so if can’t stomach it don’t do it.
On a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
I hear you and agree somewhat but the perf was commanding premiums of around £40k not so long ago so to think of taking a £50k bath seems a bit strange to me IMHO. Furthermore being offered £25k off list on a new car such as this one is also strange! Anyway I shall wait to get past winter and Brexit should bave also sorted itself out by then and who knows where prices will be :-)On a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
sone said:
Considering 2014 standard Huracans are just past 50k off list hoping the Perf will drop to that level is at best optimistic.
sone said:
If anyone thinks they’re going to buy a new super car of any brand and not take a bath they are kidding themselves especially in the current climate, be it Lamborghini, Ferrari, Maclaren or whatever. You will lose 50k in the first year if you want to sell back into the trade so if can’t stomach it don’t do it.
Hmmmm. The market changes fast.sone said:
On a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
Indeed. Not to mention you'll be benefiting from a forfeited deposit on a cancelled order. If its got comfort seats, they'll be keen to get rid too 
sixspeed said:
sone said:
On a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
Indeed. Not to mention you'll be benefiting from a forfeited deposit on a cancelled order. If its got comfort seats, they'll be keen to get rid too 
sone said:
If anyone thinks they’re going to buy a new super car of any brand and not take a bath they are kidding themselves especially in the current climate, be it Lamborghini, Ferrari, Maclaren or whatever. You will lose 50k in the first year if you want to sell back into the trade so if can’t stomach it don’t do it.
On a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
thisOn a separate note I spoke to dealer today and he tells me the demand for the svj is very strong with a waiting list 40 deep. Also the convertible Perf is heavily sought and also the coupe. So while I believe you can get a discount on a car specced by someone else you won’t get a discount on your own choice.
haven't bought a new car in awhile as nothing since the 458 spec has really appealed to me and can't be arsed losing the money
i'd probably have a Senna if it was more affordable and available though, looks super fun
I am one of those people who finds the Performante bucket seats very uncomfortable. For me it’s the lower back support as I find the angle of the seat back too upright.
Some people have mentioned using lumbar support cushions, others tilting the seats on their brackets by modifying the brackets.
What I don’t understand is that the bucket seats in the Gallardo with even less padding are extremely comfortable (sure, numbness sets in after a few hours). Okay, so some people might also say they don’t find the Gallardo buckets comfortable, but I don’t remember a big hoo-ha about comfort across the board.
So why change the shape of the buckets so much when you already had something that worked well?
Anyway, that is my only gripe with the Performante which is otherwise pretty much perfect.
Some people have mentioned using lumbar support cushions, others tilting the seats on their brackets by modifying the brackets.
What I don’t understand is that the bucket seats in the Gallardo with even less padding are extremely comfortable (sure, numbness sets in after a few hours). Okay, so some people might also say they don’t find the Gallardo buckets comfortable, but I don’t remember a big hoo-ha about comfort across the board.
So why change the shape of the buckets so much when you already had something that worked well?
Anyway, that is my only gripe with the Performante which is otherwise pretty much perfect.
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