Huracan help - 1st time buyer - owner advice please

Huracan help - 1st time buyer - owner advice please

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tigertiger12

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74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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I was looking at buying a Mclaren 570S, read some posts saying prices have stayed the same for about a year due to covid and a halt in production of new cars which has increased demand for used cars therefore prices staying high.

I'm wondering if this was the same for the Huracan, it seems so... if i remember right.
This has made me think I should take some more time which would also allow me to spend a bit more.
I will be buying outright as I cannot afford to finance.
I was looking around £90 - £100k for a Mclaren but my wife now says she prefers the Huracan which is more like £115k at the cheapest end.
I could maybe get to around £125 - £135k max in a few months and need some advice. I will keep my eye out now and if something catches me I can buy it now but will mean i'm on rice with rice for a couple of months, but hey it'll be worth it!

With the 570S, i went to see one and found 4-5 panels on the outside and 2-3 pieces of interior trim that were misaligned, the dealer stated this was due to being hand built, while I understand this is the case, for me this was a little too much and the exterior panels had obvious gaps which were very visible so this put me off as I wanted to find one that had less misaligned parts. The vehicle was a 2016. Would this be the same case for the Huracan? I do have some experience with seeing these cars much more Lamborghini's than Mclarens but this was a few years back and I never noticed this before but probably didn't look as hard as I did as I wasn't buying one at the time.

I have read that Lambo try to get out of warranty claims and the warranty is not as comprehensive as some other supercar warranties.
This has opened me up to buying outside the dealer network and buying a separate warranty. Can any owners advise me on a good warranty company and prices? Or advise me if the Lambo dealer warranty is worth it and how much this would be on a 2015/16 LP610?

I have a couple of dealer adverts state the vehicle comes with the remainder of the 4 year warranty but this was on a 2015 or 16 car. How would this be the case? Do Lambo offer a 4 year extended warranty. How many years do you get with a new Lambo? Any idea of pricing would be really helpful and how long can the warranty be extended for.

Any other tips would be very helpful. Is there anything I should know / look out for??

I'm only looking to keep the car for 2 maybe 3 years as I have a Tesla Roadster on order but as this has been delayed I have decided to buy another vehicle until the Tesla is ready for production at which point I will sell the Lambo and if possible change my Tesla order to a founders edition if they are still available at the time. It is possible this could be 3 years away...who knows! I'm far from early on the list as my order was only placed a year ago, so I should have plenty of time to be able to sell the lambo.

How much are services on a Huracan?
How much to change the pads and steel discs?
What make of tyres are approved by Lambo?

I am based in the U.K

Drl22

582 posts

32 months

Friday 29th January
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Lots of questions there;

Glaring one is the brakes are carbon ceramic not steel , they should last the life of the car but the condition needs checking because they are very expensive to replace.

Cost of service was around £1700 from memory and extended warranty was £3000ish. It seemed to be very comprehensive compared to the Ferrari warranty for example but in my ownership it did not need any warranty work at all. I don’t know how long you can warranty them for but I’d guess it’s around 10 years so in the ownership period you mention you’ll be fine.

Pricing wise, they have lost money since I sold mine, a similar 2015 I could buy for around £5k less before negotiation than I sold mine for last year. Pricing of the older cars is a little more resilient in my opinion though as they are propped up by the bottom of the market for them.

Never noticed any panel gaps at all, it was a perfect car in that regard but I only really have knowledge of my one car.

Lamborghini insist on P zeros for their warranty which is ridiculous but there you go. I’ve got 4s’ on my car now and the difference is night and day.

They are great cars and the most worry free performance car motoring I’ve had, they truly are bullet proof if they’ve been serviced and looked after.




Edited by Drl22 on Friday 29th January 07:33

BigR

272 posts

129 months

Friday 29th January
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A lot of questions indeed! I've not had a Mclaren, but am surprised to hear of the panel gaps etc... They have had some quality issues which are fairly well known, but not in terms of what sounds like maybe even rebuild / indications of something that has gone before.

Anyhoo... I have a 2017 Huracan. They come with a 4 year warranty. Services vary a bit in price depending on which service it is, but between £1400-1800 once a year is a reasonable expectation. They are, however, bullet proof. I've yet to find anyone who has had a problem with there's of any note - if anything at all! The dealers speak of them in similar terms, that the Aventador was a good step forward, but the Huracan reliability has been on another level. The build quality similarly is excellent - i have no rattles or issues whatsoever. My only advice though would be to try them for size, as they aren't super big in size and if you're a powerfully built company director sort, you may struggle a touch.

I've yet to investigate extension of the warranty, but it's something I'll consider. As with cars of this nature, the parts can be quite expensive. I've heard many thousands for a replacement headlamp for example. A lot have been wrapped or had PPF, which is a good thing by the way, as the front will chip simply due to how low down it is. Speaking of which, check the spec - the odd one didn't have a lift added to it as it is an optional extra. Don't even contemplate not having the lift! The car overall is eminently usable and I see people using them more or less as their daily drive.

My only gripes with the car have been i) it is a bit small inside - I'm 6'1" - I have a Spyder so the roof is down if its not raining and of course then its not a problem ii) there's no where to put anything in the car, so finding a cheap phone holder or some such to stick discreetly somewhere is not a bad idea - unless you're happy for it to slide around in the door pocket iii) DAB is terrible and basically doesn't work, and the Satnav...well they don't provide the traffic on them but we all use googlemaps right anyway!?

Other than that its been the most reliable car I've ever owned and won't be leaving me. Ever! ...as it was a lifelong dream.

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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Drl22 said:
Lots of questions there;

Glaring one is the brakes are carbon ceramic not steel , they should last the life of the car but the condition needs checking because they are very expensive to replace.

Cost of service was around £1700 from memory and extended warranty was £3000ish. It seemed to be very comprehensive compared to the Ferrari warranty for example but in my ownership it did not need any warranty work at all. I don’t know how long you can warranty them for but I’d guess it’s around 10 years so in the ownership period you mention you’ll be fine.

Pricing wise, they have lost money since I sold mine, a similar 2015 I could buy for around £5k less before negotiation than I sold mine for last year. Pricing of the older cars is a little more resilient in my opinion though as they are propped up by the bottom of the market for them.

Never noticed any panel gaps at all, it was a perfect car in that regard but I only really have knowledge of my one car.

Lamborghini insist on P zeros for their warranty which is ridiculous but there you go. I’ve got 4s’ on my car now and the difference is night and day.

They are great cars and the most worry free performance car motoring I’ve had, they truly are bullet proof if they’ve been serviced and looked after.




Edited by Drl22 on Friday 29th January 07:33
Thank you for your reply, Mclarens usually have carbon ceramics, I dont mind at least they last some time before they need replacing which justifies the cost for me.
Indeed I check the condition of the brakes and can arrange a PPI if outside the dealer network.

Sadly many supercars insist on PZero's and sorry but I hate them, very much and some more.
They must be on a huge backhander!

The number of panel gaps and dealer not being bothered about them on the 570 put me off,
now you are sealing the decision.
I hope to use daily which keeps such cars in good working order, not too many miles but a daily (after covid)

I really appreciate your advice.

sardis

279 posts

143 months

Friday 29th January
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I’ve had a couple of Huracans too. Covered approx 20,000 miles between them and likewise they never missed a beat. Had two Gallardos previously, similar sort of collective mileage and the most significant failure was the windscreen washer hose on the passenger side coming off the pump. I’ve posted a couple of owner experience threads elsewhere on here but in terms of reliability there’s nothing to report. That’s it really biggrin.

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tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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BigR said:
A lot of questions indeed! I've not had a Mclaren, but am surprised to hear of the panel gaps etc... They have had some quality issues which are fairly well known, but not in terms of what sounds like maybe even rebuild / indications of something that has gone before.

Anyhoo... I have a 2017 Huracan. They come with a 4 year warranty. Services vary a bit in price depending on which service it is, but between £1400-1800 once a year is a reasonable expectation. They are, however, bullet proof. I've yet to find anyone who has had a problem with there's of any note - if anything at all! The dealers speak of them in similar terms, that the Aventador was a good step forward, but the Huracan reliability has been on another level. The build quality similarly is excellent - i have no rattles or issues whatsoever. My only advice though would be to try them for size, as they aren't super big in size and if you're a powerfully built company director sort, you may struggle a touch.

I've yet to investigate extension of the warranty, but it's something I'll consider. As with cars of this nature, the parts can be quite expensive. I've heard many thousands for a replacement headlamp for example. A lot have been wrapped or had PPF, which is a good thing by the way, as the front will chip simply due to how low down it is. Speaking of which, check the spec - the odd one didn't have a lift added to it as it is an optional extra. Don't even contemplate not having the lift! The car overall is eminently usable and I see people using them more or less as their daily drive.

My only gripes with the car have been i) it is a bit small inside - I'm 6'1" - I have a Spyder so the roof is down if its not raining and of course then its not a problem ii) there's no where to put anything in the car, so finding a cheap phone holder or some such to stick discreetly somewhere is not a bad idea - unless you're happy for it to slide around in the door pocket iii) DAB is terrible and basically doesn't work, and the Satnav...well they don't provide the traffic on them but we all use googlemaps right anyway!?

Other than that its been the most reliable car I've ever owned and won't be leaving me. Ever! ...as it was a lifelong dream.
I took pics of the panel gaps, it wasn't 1 or 2. Makes me wonder if they are repairable, really put me off and I had my heart set on one and its much cheaper than a huracan.
I know a great company that could fix it but for some reason they also charge money for this! Again, 1 or two i may sort myself.

I do like ppf but full panel ppf, i can have this done. even just full front end ppf is fine but full panel.
Indeed I was shocked by the pics of the mclaren and the small size when I got in it but I am familiar with the huracan and the large centre console but we are both very small so size isn't and issue. I may use my front end to steer as lockdown has made it grow! This is easily rectified! Lift is a must for me also, i'm often around London (pre-covid) where there can be speed humps.
I like the 'powerfully built company director sort' this made me chuckle.

Yes google maps is great. Most manufacturer sat navs are rubbish. Such a shame.

I think i'm edging more towards the Huracan than mclaren.
Any donations would be much appreciated!!!
I may start a go fund me!!
If they were around £100k I'd jump, but it should only be a few more months in any case

Thanks again for your advice

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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sardis said:
I’ve had a couple of Huracans too. Covered approx 20,000 miles between them and likewise they never missed a beat. Had two Gallardos previously, similar sort of collective mileage and the most significant failure was the windscreen washer hose on the passenger side coming off the pump. I’ve posted a couple of owner experience threads elsewhere on here but in terms of reliability there’s nothing to report. That’s it really biggrin.

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Well that's me out then, could not put up with the windscreen washer hose coming off the less significant side also!!
really amazing to hear this, I assume you fixed this at no cost!

You guys are really pushing me into a huracan.
I guess i'll spend some time doing more research and as time passes hopefully I can get into one in a few months.

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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I was wondering if these cars have a brake hold feature, where I press hard on the brake and the vehicle stays where it is without my foot being on the brake?
If so what is it called or is it standard on all huracans?
How does it work as some are different, is it automatic so i don't even have to press the brake hard where it activates when the car comes to a stop?

Gameface

16,565 posts

44 months

Friday 29th January
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I've had 2 Gallardo spyders, a Huracan Performante Spyder and an Aventador.

Not had a single issue with any of them.

My previous Ferraris on the other hand...

R8Reece

1,171 posts

56 months

Friday 29th January
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Panel issues are sadly a quality control issue, not a hand made issue. That's rubbish.

There are some Macs out there that suffer from poor panel alignment and Thorney have highlighted the issue in one of their videos. Fixing it isn't quick either so I would steer clear. I think one Mac dealer up north even tried to get customers to sign a document on collection where they would agree to the panel issue being normal - that practice quickly stopped.

However my recollection is that some Macs suffer from it, some don't but cars earlier in the production build are more likely to suffer from it. There are plenty without the issue so choose one of those.

Cannot recall reading on here about panel issues on Huracan's.

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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Gameface said:
I've had 2 Gallardo spyders, a Huracan Performante Spyder and an Aventador.

Not had a single issue with any of them.

My previous Ferraris on the other hand...
another plus. Thanks
Go fund me link coming soon!

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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R8Reece said:
Panel issues are sadly a quality control issue, not a hand made issue. That's rubbish.

There are some Macs out there that suffer from poor panel alignment and Thorney have highlighted the issue in one of their videos. Fixing it isn't quick either so I would steer clear. I think one Mac dealer up north even tried to get customers to sign a document on collection where they would agree to the panel issue being normal - that practice quickly stopped.

However my recollection is that some Macs suffer from it, some don't but cars earlier in the production build are more likely to suffer from it. There are plenty without the issue so choose one of those.

Cannot recall reading on here about panel issues on Huracan's.
Absolutely agree and this was our first thought, being QC, or lack of...
Again, we decided against and thought we will look for one without.
Like I said, if Macca cant fix it what chance do I have, could be why this car is unsold and the price dropped by £5k despite low mileage and good spec.
Was then told 4 months left for service but nothing doing from them when I asked, then changed their mind on this as I steered away from the purchase. Again no mention of the misaligned panels which there are a few of.
That signing a document thing is bad.

Just don't like the ignorance to the issue, the cover up and side step, how about cover up the gaps and make the panels fit!

Now i'm here reading about Lambo's that I understand should be very reliable but also cost more to drive and maintain, however this is the trade up.
I'm sure in 6 months I can justify the costs with some for incidentals.
Well it's rice with rice at my house...but no one's invited errr it's covid!!!

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Friday 29th January
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I see on the steering wheel there are 2 sets of 3 buttons in the lower part of the steering wheel.
The left ones have icons but the right ones don't, do these have a use? Are the ones with no icons option dependant?

Also still wondering if the car has brake hold function? If so is it automatic when the car stops or hard press on the brake to activate?

petjam

356 posts

113 months

Friday 29th January
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tigertiger12 said:
I see on the steering wheel there are 2 sets of 3 buttons in the lower part of the steering wheel.
The left ones have icons but the right ones don't, do these have a use? Are the ones with no icons option dependant?

Also still wondering if the car has brake hold function? If so is it automatic when the car stops or hard press on the brake to activate?
The right ones are for cruise control, if there are no icons then it wasn't optioned.

BigR

272 posts

129 months

Saturday 30th January
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I optioned the cruise control just because I didn't want any blank buttons! A little OTT maybe, but... The only thing I didn't add was the cup holder that pops out the dash (a few hundred quid) because I didn't want to encourage such behaviour in my car :-)

Regarding the brake hold thing, I've not come across it or thought about it. It's tucked up under a blanket in the garage at present so can't even take it out for a quick spin to try it, sorry! I definitely don't recall it as an option though and haven't heard anyone mention it (not that it means it doesn't exist). My assumption is that it doesn't have it, but I truly don't know, sorry!

Sounds like you've edged a lot towards the Huracan. It's worth the wait - 6mths will fly by! And you should still be able to experience the summer in it! Keep us posted when you pull the trigger...

Btw, if you're into that kind of thing there is a Lambo UK club. Things have obviously been on hold for the best part of a year now, but generally reasonably active, with drive outs, lunchtime pub meets, a couple of weekend trips away in Europe and the UK each year. And really, really no snobbishness - we're a very mixed bunch of people of all ages and backgrounds, who love their cars - and don't turn up in all the branded gear unlike a certain other Italian manufacturer ;-)

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Saturday 30th January
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BigR said:
I optioned the cruise control just because I didn't want any blank buttons! A little OTT maybe, but... The only thing I didn't add was the cup holder that pops out the dash (a few hundred quid) because I didn't want to encourage such behaviour in my car :-)

Regarding the brake hold thing, I've not come across it or thought about it. It's tucked up under a blanket in the garage at present so can't even take it out for a quick spin to try it, sorry! I definitely don't recall it as an option though and haven't heard anyone mention it (not that it means it doesn't exist). My assumption is that it doesn't have it, but I truly don't know, sorry!

Sounds like you've edged a lot towards the Huracan. It's worth the wait - 6mths will fly by! And you should still be able to experience the summer in it! Keep us posted when you pull the trigger...

Btw, if you're into that kind of thing there is a Lambo UK club. Things have obviously been on hold for the best part of a year now, but generally reasonably active, with drive outs, lunchtime pub meets, a couple of weekend trips away in Europe and the UK each year. And really, really no snobbishness - we're a very mixed bunch of people of all ages and backgrounds, who love their cars - and don't turn up in all the branded gear unlike a certain other Italian manufacturer ;-)
Indeed, I tend to feel the same about the cruise control as blank buttons are a bit naff. I hope I can find one with the cruise control but i'm also at the lower end of the market so can't be too fussy.
Interesting info about the cup holder, didn't realise it was an option but good way to avoid any spillage.

Not to worry about the brake hold, it does seem the vehicle doesn't have it which is a shame but not a deal breaker, i've had it on a few cars and is very handy, at lights or on an incline, you can hover over the accelerator and just press it when the lights change so fairly quick get away also. I am sensible though and don't race.

I took a look at a couple of Lambo forums and the one you mentioned which seem to suggest better reliability and warranty by Lambo with Mclaren edging out of claims and Lambos just being more reliable which has put me closer to Lambo, cheaper is not always better and a bit longer for a car I would be happier about will probably work out better in the long run for me. I will indeed keep you posted though it may be some time, I really don't know.

I would like to join the club membership again there is a difference between the mclaren and lambo official club, anyone can join the lambo club with a discount for under 16's but ownership requirement for mclaren after all the passion starts from a very young age. The club members do sound like a great crowd and all here have been very nice and no snobbishness even here on this thread which is very nice as I was jumped on in my Mclaren thread, had some 'show off's' which I suppose can be expected anywhere but was by a few and as soon as I mentioned my interest in a Lambo was called a liar and had to defend myself. It ended up amusing my wife and I as it didn't stop, they would not leave it and the same point was jumped on repeatedly by a few differently people which sadly made me think negatively about a few of owners, not everyone is the same I know.

I hope to make a purchase soon and will keep the thread updated and may have more questions upon arrival.
I hope my wife turning up at Lambo meets with her Mercedes / Hamilton cap on will be ok!!!! But the people seem very kind and decent so I'm sure this wont be an issue! We are big F1 fans and she is very knowledgable about F1 also and I'm sure many would enjoy a conversation with her. She is very excited about a Lambo, much more so than the Mclaren though she does like Mclaren and the doors. We like all cars. We both went to view the 570S and both saw and took pics of the panel gaps which really put her off that vehicle, also the dealers ignorance to resolving them made us think twice about the brand / service then reading these posts gives us more confidence in getting a Lambo.

Thanks to all people on here for your advice, It has been a big help and I really appreciate your time.

Skittles001

632 posts

230 months

Saturday 30th January
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I’m 99.9% sure the Huracan has a standard brake hold feature.

I just sold mine (2014 610-4) after two years. Not a single issue with it and I didn’t renew the warranty. I ended up part exchanging it for a Performante. I really enjoyed the Huracan.

For me the must have is lift and the rear view camera. I preferred the slats at the back rather than clear engine cover. Front PPF is a good idea, should cost you 1.5-1.8k.

My only real niggle with the car is a lack of boot capacity.

They are really good cars, but so are the McLarens. I had a 650 spider and loved it but haven’t owned a 570. I do recommend keeping the McLaren under warranty as they are more likely to have niggles than the Huracan but I wouldn’t let that put you off - I’d get another McLaren in the future without hesitation.



Edited by Skittles001 on Saturday 30th January 20:57


Edited by Skittles001 on Saturday 30th January 21:15

tigertiger12

Original Poster:

74 posts

6 months

Sunday 31st January
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Skittles001 said:
I’m 99.9% sure the Huracan has a standard brake hold feature.

I just sold mine (2014 610-4) after two years. Not a single issue with it and I didn’t renew the warranty. I ended up part exchanging it for a Performante. I really enjoyed the Huracan.

For me the must have is lift and the rear view camera. I preferred the slats at the back rather than clear engine cover. Front PPF is a good idea, should cost you 1.5-1.8k.

My only real niggle with the car is a lack of boot capacity.

They are really good cars, but so are the McLarens. I had a 650 spider and loved it but haven’t owned a 570. I do recommend keeping the McLaren under warranty as they are more likely to have niggles than the Huracan but I wouldn’t let that put you off - I’d get another McLaren in the future without hesitation.



Edited by Skittles001 on Saturday 30th January 20:57


Edited by Skittles001 on Saturday 30th January 21:15
The brake hold feature is very handy, I do hope it does have this feature.
agree with all points you make except I don't mind the glass engine cover but the slats do look very good also, but I'm not fussy about this as again i'm at the lower end of the market so other options such as rear camera and front lift are a must.

Boot capacity is a shame but I also have a cayenne if I need more space.

The more I read about Mclaren the more I see them having issues and with dealers side stepping warranty claims and the more I read about the huracan the more I see they are much more reliable. I did expect to spend a bit more here and there with a Mclaren but now i'm inclined towards the huracan which is spending more now for more reliability and maybe less costs in the future. It didn't help the Mc dealer not being bothered about the panel gaps which there are a few of. Initially they wanted me to buy it over email without a viewing until collection due to lockdown. I'm glad I refused and went to have a look without contact with anyone, they left it outside for me and unlocked it from inside the dealership when I got there. I now know why the car is still unsold even after low mileage, owners and a £5k drop in price. I just feel that would have been dishonest, I know I could have seen it up collection but feel that maybe being overcome with excitement I may have missed looking as much. I feel with the gaps that a Mc dealer should point this out, i know they want to sell but from a buyers perspective it should be pointed out. I believe I got here from nothing to be able to afford these cars by being honest. I am far from rich but this beyond my expectations.

I also need to think about pricing as they seem a little high due to the virus causing a halt in production keeping the used market prices high. Maybe I should wait a little longer as restrictions may be eased in the next few months, which will help my finances also. I can purchase now and just take it easy for a few months if I find the right car. Hatfield have one at £120k, 20k miles, 3 owners, 2015, front lift, rear camera, white, black wheels and the wheel I like, just very little spec but affordable. PPF at least for the front I can get done. I may be able to get it delivered local to hatfield for a further inspection and passing that front end ppf.

DamanC

97 posts

110 months

Monday 1st February
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Brake hold wasnt an "option" btw. It may do it, it may not, I have a perf so again it may do it, it may not (only managed 1k in it so far). I was lead to belive its fairly standard on modern Autos/tips........

Must haves have basically been covered, lift, rear camera, PPF and some kind of phone integration.

Huracans are very reliable and well put together. From what I have seen of Mac's they love a good panel gap and you need to wheel your balls around in a wheelbarrow if you dont run one under Mac warranty which often brings up a few horror stories when they try to wriggle out. I love a Mac as much as everyone else but I think they are all (but a couple of special ones) utterly fugly so was a fairly easy choice for me.

As for the owners club, laid back as you like, Lambos are differnt (a good thing imo) as is the OC - for the little amount I have been involved (6 months) there is absolutely no snobbery although is very quiet but lacks a "UK forum/home" and simply, there are not many of us.

Enjoy the beans on toast wink

TonyF

2,267 posts

243 months

Monday 1st February
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If it’s a choice between the Mac and the huracan then huracan all day long. I have a performante spider ( so a tad biase) and it hasn’t missed a beat in the 2 and a bit years I’ve owned her and every mile has put a massive smile on my face. The noise of that V10 is intoxicating and very addictive.
On the negative side( for maclaren anyway) I have friends and family members that do and have owned maclarens and there’s not a positive word from any of them regarding ownership I’m not at all surprised about your recent findings on the 570 re panel gaps etc. It’s not good ownership experience and I’ll leave it there before being flamed by Mac owners !!
Had a Gallardo spider around 7 years ago and was the same story there, very reliable and a great fun car.
Good luck with your huracan search, I know you will enjoy every second driving it.