Huracan Performante Values
Discussion
All cars are up in general - Pandemic, chip shortage, logistics issues raw material shortage, bounce back loans, the bats could have wiped us out, disposable income etc.
Performantes are top of that trend for other reasons
Rarity
They were good value before/undervalued
Last of the NA
Reliable
When Lambo
More younger entrepreneurs - They want a Lambo or Tesla. Everything else is for "older people"
Ring records
Sound
4WD
Offensively fast
Well built/quality
With right tyres/temps there isn't much better that will go round a corner
The STO doesn't really intrude on the Perf Market (Too hardcore/silly price/arguably fugly/2WD/100K for the carbon - Pardon?/Where are the Ring numbers Lambo?)
Timeless looks
Easy to live with/options to not live with
You can see out of it
Its not the size of a bus
Comfortable
Will cruise as well as nail it on track
A 488 Pista is overpriced/Perf undervalued
The GT2 RS is overpriced/Perf undervalued
The 488 is a bit "meh"
Everyone has already had a Porsche
A Porsche is no longer as "special" as it once was
The 720 is nice but has reliability/customer service "issues" and marmite looks
Lamborghini themselves are now more present in the UK and are nice to deal with
Its better built than a Fez or Mac
Try and get one in the colour/spec you actually want!
Emission restrictions on new stuff - Is it the Pinnacle?
It comes in Green, Yellow and Orange and wears it well
The Evo does not impede the Perf Market - its a Stock H refresh, its not "special"
An Evo Perf - what can they actually improve? A screen, cross between buckets and comfort seats and more emission poop
The world has worked out now its a damn good car
Will values drop, its going to follow the same trend as everything else whichever way that may be, but there are reasons why it went up more than most and those reasons will be why it wont fall as much.
Future classic - 100% - we are all going to be driving big RC cars in 10 years time.
Performantes are top of that trend for other reasons
Rarity
They were good value before/undervalued
Last of the NA
Reliable
When Lambo
More younger entrepreneurs - They want a Lambo or Tesla. Everything else is for "older people"
Ring records
Sound
4WD
Offensively fast
Well built/quality
With right tyres/temps there isn't much better that will go round a corner
The STO doesn't really intrude on the Perf Market (Too hardcore/silly price/arguably fugly/2WD/100K for the carbon - Pardon?/Where are the Ring numbers Lambo?)
Timeless looks
Easy to live with/options to not live with
You can see out of it
Its not the size of a bus
Comfortable
Will cruise as well as nail it on track
A 488 Pista is overpriced/Perf undervalued
The GT2 RS is overpriced/Perf undervalued
The 488 is a bit "meh"
Everyone has already had a Porsche
A Porsche is no longer as "special" as it once was
The 720 is nice but has reliability/customer service "issues" and marmite looks
Lamborghini themselves are now more present in the UK and are nice to deal with
Its better built than a Fez or Mac
Try and get one in the colour/spec you actually want!
Emission restrictions on new stuff - Is it the Pinnacle?
It comes in Green, Yellow and Orange and wears it well
The Evo does not impede the Perf Market - its a Stock H refresh, its not "special"
An Evo Perf - what can they actually improve? A screen, cross between buckets and comfort seats and more emission poop
The world has worked out now its a damn good car
Will values drop, its going to follow the same trend as everything else whichever way that may be, but there are reasons why it went up more than most and those reasons will be why it wont fall as much.
Future classic - 100% - we are all going to be driving big RC cars in 10 years time.
Very, very compelling logic sir!
The question that is still unanswered is the one you reference too: that Perfs were under-valued previously.
It seems like remarkable coincidence that people are only realising all of the features of the Perf that you outline at almost exactly the same time as the car market in general has gone crazy.
Based on just the last 18-24 months, you would think the Perf is a 'high beta' model, i.e. when market is up it outperforms but when market is down, it drops even lower?
The question that is still unanswered is the one you reference too: that Perfs were under-valued previously.
It seems like remarkable coincidence that people are only realising all of the features of the Perf that you outline at almost exactly the same time as the car market in general has gone crazy.
Based on just the last 18-24 months, you would think the Perf is a 'high beta' model, i.e. when market is up it outperforms but when market is down, it drops even lower?
When all was on the "down" the Perf was holding much stronger to everything else which would be the opposite of a high beta effect.
I simply think Lambo knocked em out too cheap and didn't make enough. For people looking for that "drama", the Perf nails it better than nearly everything else out there and the close options (Pista/GT2 RS) cost 1/3 more.
Damn it, im on PH talking about cars holding value!
I simply think Lambo knocked em out too cheap and didn't make enough. For people looking for that "drama", the Perf nails it better than nearly everything else out there and the close options (Pista/GT2 RS) cost 1/3 more.
Damn it, im on PH talking about cars holding value!
y700suf said:
Very, very compelling logic sir!
The question that is still unanswered is the one you reference too: that Perfs were under-valued previously.
It seems like remarkable coincidence that people are only realising all of the features of the Perf that you outline at almost exactly the same time as the car market in general has gone crazy.
Based on just the last 18-24 months, you would think the Perf is a 'high beta' model, i.e. when market is up it outperforms but when market is down, it drops even lower?
Are there any examples of “high beta” cars?The question that is still unanswered is the one you reference too: that Perfs were under-valued previously.
It seems like remarkable coincidence that people are only realising all of the features of the Perf that you outline at almost exactly the same time as the car market in general has gone crazy.
Based on just the last 18-24 months, you would think the Perf is a 'high beta' model, i.e. when market is up it outperforms but when market is down, it drops even lower?
s2000db said:
Anyone aware of a flipped STO being sold in the UK?
Black on black on black one for £370k. https://redlinespecialistcars.co.uk/used-cars/lamb...
Skittles001 said:
s2000db said:
Anyone aware of a flipped STO being sold in the UK?
Black on black on black one for £370k. https://redlinespecialistcars.co.uk/used-cars/lamb...
Sorry I should have been clearer, there’s about 5 being offered for ‘sale’, but I’m not aware that any have actually been ‘sold’ to a third party.
In presume these are on SOR/private??
This shouldn't work at all, but it really does!!
Brown STO
https://www.thesupercarblog.com/is-this-classiest-...
Brown STO
https://www.thesupercarblog.com/is-this-classiest-...
DFLR said:
This shouldn't work at all, but it really does!!
Brown STO
https://www.thesupercarblog.com/is-this-classiest-...
Yes it works really well!Brown STO
https://www.thesupercarblog.com/is-this-classiest-...
I’m quite liking this at the moment..
DamanC said:
When all was on the "down" the Perf was holding much stronger to everything else which would be the opposite of a high beta effect.
I simply think Lambo knocked em out too cheap and didn't make enough. For people looking for that "drama", the Perf nails it better than nearly everything else out there and the close options (Pista/GT2 RS) cost 1/3 more.
Damn it, im on PH talking about cars holding value!
Seems like values are softening a bit again as the weather gets colder, particularly for Spyders?I simply think Lambo knocked em out too cheap and didn't make enough. For people looking for that "drama", the Perf nails it better than nearly everything else out there and the close options (Pista/GT2 RS) cost 1/3 more.
Damn it, im on PH talking about cars holding value!
y700suf said:
Values are now firmly higher than they were just a few months ago, probably with the lukewarm response to the Tecnica launch.
My local lambo dealer has already sold its first year allocation albeit only 6 units, what evidence have u got to back up your sweeping statement ?Tecnica takes best bits of STO and EVO RWD to make lambos best driving car ever.
Doesn't seem a lukewarm recipe to me and personally I think it looks the dog 80ll0ck5.
Ok its a heavy face-lift to prolong the huracan platform until the hybrid is available but its a que to the future looks as well and will be rarest and last edition of the huracan so I can see it become a future classic just like the last NA 458 ferrari.
Sensible spec cars can be had at circa £230k which isn't that much more than a 3 Yr old performante at today's inflated used car prices.
As good as the perf is id rather have the newer latest model than a 3 yr old used car.
Once they start hitting market next year I think perfs will drop considerably
Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 11th May 22:33
I've just got out of my Perf, seemed like the perfect time with values being strong. Not sure what to replace it with yet, potentially something slightly more practical. It's easily the best car I've owned though - put a smile on my face every time I drove it and reliability wise, never missed a beat.
It's a great all rounder in that it *can* be perfectly sedate in Strada, 4WD so pretty much usable all year round. Personally I prefer the Perf dash with the buttons instead of the touchscreen - I can adjust volume, air con temps etc through muscle memory without taking my eyes off the road. I'm not sure the values will tank - they'll soften off naturally but I think this will be remembered as the high point of the Huracan.
It's a great all rounder in that it *can* be perfectly sedate in Strada, 4WD so pretty much usable all year round. Personally I prefer the Perf dash with the buttons instead of the touchscreen - I can adjust volume, air con temps etc through muscle memory without taking my eyes off the road. I'm not sure the values will tank - they'll soften off naturally but I think this will be remembered as the high point of the Huracan.
dazmanultra said:
I've just got out of my Perf, seemed like the perfect time with values being strong. Not sure what to replace it with yet, potentially something slightly more practical. It's easily the best car I've owned though - put a smile on my face every time I drove it and reliability wise, never missed a beat.
It's a great all rounder in that it *can* be perfectly sedate in Strada, 4WD so pretty much usable all year round. Personally I prefer the Perf dash with the buttons instead of the touchscreen - I can adjust volume, air con temps etc through muscle memory without taking my eyes off the road. I'm not sure the values will tank - they'll soften off naturally but I think this will be remembered as the high point of the Huracan.
Interesting view of the Huracan Performante being the high point as Evo Car rated the EVO RWD as best driving Huracan so far and the tecnica is obviously going to be better again with 30 bhp more, RWS and other improvements that come with development progression.It's a great all rounder in that it *can* be perfectly sedate in Strada, 4WD so pretty much usable all year round. Personally I prefer the Perf dash with the buttons instead of the touchscreen - I can adjust volume, air con temps etc through muscle memory without taking my eyes off the road. I'm not sure the values will tank - they'll soften off naturally but I think this will be remembered as the high point of the Huracan.
Dont get me wrong I love the Performante and the reassurance the 4WD gives but purists will always say go RWD.
No one has got to drive a tecnica yet as far as I'm aware but im sure the raving reviews will follow in due course.
Never got the STO as a road car, just far too track focussed but the Tecnica seems to hit the road car sweet spot taking best bits of Evo RWD and STO to optimise road performance
Curledge said:
dazmanultra said:
I've just got out of my Perf, seemed like the perfect time with values being strong. Not sure what to replace it with yet, potentially something slightly more practical. It's easily the best car I've owned though - put a smile on my face every time I drove it and reliability wise, never missed a beat.
It's a great all rounder in that it *can* be perfectly sedate in Strada, 4WD so pretty much usable all year round. Personally I prefer the Perf dash with the buttons instead of the touchscreen - I can adjust volume, air con temps etc through muscle memory without taking my eyes off the road. I'm not sure the values will tank - they'll soften off naturally but I think this will be remembered as the high point of the Huracan.
Interesting view of the Huracan Performante being the high point as Evo Car rated the EVO RWD as best driving Huracan so far and the tecnica is obviously going to be better again with 30 bhp more, RWS and other improvements that come with development progression.It's a great all rounder in that it *can* be perfectly sedate in Strada, 4WD so pretty much usable all year round. Personally I prefer the Perf dash with the buttons instead of the touchscreen - I can adjust volume, air con temps etc through muscle memory without taking my eyes off the road. I'm not sure the values will tank - they'll soften off naturally but I think this will be remembered as the high point of the Huracan.
Dont get me wrong I love the Performante and the reassurance the 4WD gives but purists will always say go RWD.
No one has got to drive a tecnica yet as far as I'm aware but im sure the raving reviews will follow in due course.
Never got the STO as a road car, just far too track focussed but the Tecnica seems to hit the road car sweet spot taking best bits of Evo RWD and STO to optimise road performance
The Technica is an interesting proposition. The Sian influenced styling works well (not sure about rear deck mind) and the STO bits and bobs, but it still ends up slower than a Perf AKAIK.
On the plus side, it gets you into the latest (last?) generation of Huracan and 4 years of warranty - but is it as 'special' as a Performante? Not convinced it is.
I guess the answer is to have both!
Stig said:
Purists can say what they like about going RWD, just like they do about Sports seats vs comforts - but people who actually BUY Perfs, don't necessarily follow.
The Technica is an interesting proposition. The Sian influenced styling works well (not sure about rear deck mind) and the STO bits and bobs, but it still ends up slower than a Perf AKAIK.
On the plus side, it gets you into the latest (last?) generation of Huracan and 4 years of warranty - but is it as 'special' as a Performante? Not convinced it is.
I guess the answer is to have both!
Personally for my driving ability i prefer the reassurance of the 4WD and never ever had any issues with traction even in the wet.The Technica is an interesting proposition. The Sian influenced styling works well (not sure about rear deck mind) and the STO bits and bobs, but it still ends up slower than a Perf AKAIK.
On the plus side, it gets you into the latest (last?) generation of Huracan and 4 years of warranty - but is it as 'special' as a Performante? Not convinced it is.
I guess the answer is to have both!
At first I was unsure about the flat rear deck but the more I see it the more I like the way they have done it and made engine visible.
I have suggested they make the rear vertical window electric so you could have it open and hear engine more as that seems an omission and missed opportunity
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