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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Why when looking on the mobile site (iOS) you can see the status with respect to 'read / no new posts' is visible in the 'My Stuff' by not being 'bold' text, yet in 'What's New' this is not apparent?
I've asked that a few times now with no response.I'm no techy but i cannot for the life of me think of a reason this has happened, and not been changed?
Is it not as straightforward as i think?
DSLiverpool said:
Can we fix search pre sets please -
If you search you generally want the most recent result which involves changing to last posting date and it then decides to do ascending not descending so you have to edit two drop downs to see a recent search result - please amend the default.
I do the same ( or give up and go to google)If you search you generally want the most recent result which involves changing to last posting date and it then decides to do ascending not descending so you have to edit two drop downs to see a recent search result - please amend the default.
It always defaults to most relevant whatever that means, but whatever it is , it isnt
DSLiverpool said:
Can we fix search pre sets please -
If you search you generally want the most recent result which involves changing to last posting date and it then decides to do ascending not descending so you have to edit two drop downs to see a recent search result - please amend the default.
Already raised it. Guess the response.. If you search you generally want the most recent result which involves changing to last posting date and it then decides to do ascending not descending so you have to edit two drop downs to see a recent search result - please amend the default.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
loudlashadjuster said:
DSLiverpool said:
Can we fix search pre sets please -
If you search you generally want the most recent result which involves changing to last posting date and it then decides to do ascending not descending so you have to edit two drop downs to see a recent search result - please amend the default.
Already raised it. Guess the response.. If you search you generally want the most recent result which involves changing to last posting date and it then decides to do ascending not descending so you have to edit two drop downs to see a recent search result - please amend the default.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
ks, all they are changing is the default drop down settings - FFS DO IT instead of reading Viz / Razzle one afternoon.
rscott said:
Pebbles167 said:
Sorry if it's been covered before, but there is some spammer in GG at the moment, and I can't for the life of me find the report button. Was this intentional?
It's missing in the mobile view, but is apparently due to be added back shortly. saaby93 said:
I do the same ( or give up and go to google)
It always defaults to most relevant whatever that means, but whatever it is , it isnt
That's not normally how search engines work - you are assuming all users would like the most recent post even if it is less relevant to the user. This assumes that date recency has primacy for users over a relevant post.It always defaults to most relevant whatever that means, but whatever it is , it isnt
Relevance as determined by the engines classification algorithm (likely based on some variation of keyword occurance)
For example - someone is seeking information about ford fiestas. They put those keywords in for the engine. With most recent, they get a post from yesterday with an offhand mention of the word fiesta, related to Bristol Balloon fiesta, as it happened recently. But actually what they wanted was the owners thread, which no one has posted in for 6 months, doesn't appear.
Hope that makes sense - your not wrong that on some occasions date based recall and sorting is useful but it's not quite as simple as might be intended.
Pheo said:
That's not normally how search engines work - you are assuming all users would like the most recent post even if it is less relevant to the user. This assumes that date recency has primacy for users over a relevant post.
Relevance as determined by the engines classification algorithm (likely based on some variation of keyword occurance)
For example - someone is seeking information about ford fiestas. They put those keywords in for the engine. With most recent, they get a post from yesterday with an offhand mention of the word fiesta, related to Bristol Balloon fiesta, as it happened recently. But actually what they wanted was the owners thread, which no one has posted in for 6 months, doesn't appear.
Hope that makes sense - your not wrong that on some occasions date based recall and sorting is useful but it's not quite as simple as might be intended.
But it is simple to change the default filters so anyone not happy with the most recent mention of the cayenne 957 valve chest can search for it mentioned in 2008 Relevance as determined by the engines classification algorithm (likely based on some variation of keyword occurance)
For example - someone is seeking information about ford fiestas. They put those keywords in for the engine. With most recent, they get a post from yesterday with an offhand mention of the word fiesta, related to Bristol Balloon fiesta, as it happened recently. But actually what they wanted was the owners thread, which no one has posted in for 6 months, doesn't appear.
Hope that makes sense - your not wrong that on some occasions date based recall and sorting is useful but it's not quite as simple as might be intended.
Pheo said:
saaby93 said:
I do the same ( or give up and go to google)
It always defaults to most relevant whatever that means, but whatever it is , it isnt
That's not normally how search engines work - you are assuming all users would like the most recent post even if it is less relevant to the user. This assumes that date recency has primacy for users over a relevant post.It always defaults to most relevant whatever that means, but whatever it is , it isnt
Relevance as determined by the engines classification algorithm (likely based on some variation of keyword occurance)
For example - someone is seeking information about ford fiestas. They put those keywords in for the engine. With most recent, they get a post from yesterday with an offhand mention of the word fiesta, related to Bristol Balloon fiesta, as it happened recently. But actually what they wanted was the owners thread, which no one has posted in for 6 months, doesn't appear.
Hope that makes sense - your not wrong that on some occasions date based recall and sorting is useful but it's not quite as simple as might be intended.
To me relevance is the last thing I want, I just want the posts with all the words I'm searching for ( and not a huge number of the posts with at least one of the words) but setting that aside
Under relevance is the thing initially giving us the least relevant first and its not until we change ascending to descending we get most relevant first?
Similarly when we change to most recent, does ascending give us the least most recent first so we have to change it to most most recent?
It's probably wasted breath because what ever it says it doesnt seem to do it anyway
If we're back to arguing about search it shows that at least on desktop we seem to have got back to a system that's almost as good as what classic was
Edited by saaby93 on Friday 21st April 08:41
pc.iow said:
As an aside, my father went to school with Aubrey Morris. Dan_1981 said:
Another minor issue but have you seen the dogs dinner that appears when you attempt to delete a reply?
The functionality seems to work but erm.... well... it aint pretty.
And watch threads. When they created the new GTI skin they didn't bother with look-a-likey landing pages - they just linked to old ones. Hence it looks like a clusterfThe functionality seems to work but erm.... well... it aint pretty.
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