Hello PHers and welcome to your new look forums!

Hello PHers and welcome to your new look forums!

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xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Not sure if anyone has noticed.

The "broken" quoting appears to have been fixed smile

So well done PH Tech team on that!

Maybe now just remove the bubbles.....

Funk

26,303 posts

210 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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What do the different colours actually represent?

You know it's bad when it has to be explained.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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ClockworkCupcake

74,632 posts

273 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Funk said:
What do the different colours actually represent?

You know it's bad when it has to be explained...
... several times in the same day.


loudlashadjuster

5,146 posts

185 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Not sure if anyone has noticed.

The "broken" quoting appears to have been fixed smile

So well done PH Tech team on that!

Maybe now just remove the bubbles.....
Indeed. For all the moaning on this thread, such responsiveness is unheard of from PH. I've "only" been active on here for eight years (although lurking for a few before that) and the forum look and operation has moved at glacial pace in that time...until the other week.

Hell, the image upload is still 'beta' hehe

Folk should try and appreciate that this is the prize at the end of all the upheaval; a more modern, responsive platform where we can reasonably expect things to evolve/improve over time.

It already feels snappier. Tangible benefits for all, save for a few luddites biggrin

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Well bugger me, that's behaved exactly as expected here biggrin

ClockworkCupcake

74,632 posts

273 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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xjay1337 said:
Also, the quotes are not longer highlighted as being "yours" like before - they were coloured like your own posts or had your own post highlighted in a box of colour so you could easily see.
Yes, I noticed that broke earlier today. Your own posts are still highlighted, but not when other people quote you.

thegreenhell

15,465 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Crafty_

13,298 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jsf said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
rampageturke said:
I don't know how old this forum software actually is.
You see how at the bottom of the page it says "Copyright PistonHeads 1998-2017"? That's a fair indication. smile

I joined PH in August 2001 and it had already been running for a year or so. The code has grown organically in that time - ie. probably a bit of a mess.

As we've discussed several times already on this thread, a migration to a new off-the-shelf forum platform would not be a trivial task, and would also involve big up-front investment for only a long-term gain. Fixing what you have is always quicker and cheaper in the short term (but not the long term).
I carried out a server migration and migration from one BBS software package to a completely new one a couple of years ago because the BBS software was old and the server host wanted to migrate to a new platform.

It's not that difficult with the tools provided by the BBS provider.

I managed it and I haven't worked in IT for 15 years, I now throw spanners at cars for a living.

Scoobynet used to run a BBS that was written by the owner, when that was sold to Internet Brands a few years ago they carried out a full migration to an off the shelf modern BBS package.

This is not rocket science, it's not even expensive to implement and would probably be cheaper than trying to bespoke write this archaic package, which is bloody awful now.
+1, all you have is a bunch of text sat in a database that needs to be stuck in to a different database. Its hardly the worlds biggest ETL project. Christ, the script kiddies manage to write scripts to automate spam posts and some are suggesting its impossible to move to a new forum software.

Out of the box software would mean some proper stability, good performance a working search! and all sorts of other functionality - look at Xen Foro for example, stacks of functionality in that.
I'd suggest it would also return gains in terms of cheaper maintenance and admin immediately.

skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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I decided to spend a few minutes playing with the styles, here's what I came up with.

Before:



After:


saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Is it something about the contrast between light blue ink and grey paper that doesnt quite work with the bold font?







saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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skahigh said:
I decided to spend a few minutes playing with the styles, here's what I came up with.

Before:



After:

I use the red handbags to let me know which thread I havent read
I dont need the bold thread titles

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Doofus said:
miniman said:
Blue and purple are the standard colours for visited and unvisited pages. Purple indicates you've previously visited that page. Bold indicates there's a new post in that thread since your last visit. Bold purple indicates that there's a new post in a thread that you have visited.
So what's the significance of no purple bit is a thread on "My Stuff"?

If it's in My Stuff, I've posted in the thread. So if nothing else, the page on which I posged should be purple, possibly bold purple, but not all blue, surely?

Found it cheers Doofus.

So, what we're saying is, no-one has a fking clue what the colours mean? Because I agree if a thread is in My Stuff then I've posted in it and it should therefore be purple.

And lord knows I don't want to be looking at fking purple.

skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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saaby93 said:
I use the red handbags to let me know which thread I havent read
I dont need the bold thread titles
Fair enough, I never look at them.

There are no less than 3 visual indicators of unseen content in a thread, the icon, the background highlight colour and the bold.

To my eyes the icons, being yellow/red just add extra colours in to the mix and make it more cluttered.

ClockworkCupcake

74,632 posts

273 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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skahigh said:
I decided to spend a few minutes playing with the styles, here's what I came up with.
I presume you did this with a modified local CSS file?

If so, that's an encouraging sign that proper skins should be fairly straightforward to implement.

Maybe Haymarket should hire you? Or, failing that, make the Gassing Station an open source project and allow people to submit changes and enhancements. Or, at the very least, they could accept CSS files for submission as skins.

skahigh

2,023 posts

132 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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ClockworkCupcake said:
skahigh said:
I decided to spend a few minutes playing with the styles, here's what I came up with.
I presume you did this with a modified local CSS file?

If so, that's an encouraging sign that proper skins should be fairly straightforward to implement.

Maybe Haymarket should hire you? Or, failing that, make the Gassing Station an open source project and allow people to submit changes and enhancements. Or, at the very least, accept CSS files for submission as skins.
Chrome dev tools, literally 10-15 mins.

trev4

740 posts

163 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Is there a way of stopping my phone returning to the mobile site after every visit, it is more than a little annoying to have to go back to desktop every time.

rscott

14,779 posts

192 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Crafty_ said:
jsf said:
ClockworkCupcake said:
rampageturke said:
I don't know how old this forum software actually is.
You see how at the bottom of the page it says "Copyright PistonHeads 1998-2017"? That's a fair indication. smile

I joined PH in August 2001 and it had already been running for a year or so. The code has grown organically in that time - ie. probably a bit of a mess.

As we've discussed several times already on this thread, a migration to a new off-the-shelf forum platform would not be a trivial task, and would also involve big up-front investment for only a long-term gain. Fixing what you have is always quicker and cheaper in the short term (but not the long term).
I carried out a server migration and migration from one BBS software package to a completely new one a couple of years ago because the BBS software was old and the server host wanted to migrate to a new platform.

It's not that difficult with the tools provided by the BBS provider.

I managed it and I haven't worked in IT for 15 years, I now throw spanners at cars for a living.

Scoobynet used to run a BBS that was written by the owner, when that was sold to Internet Brands a few years ago they carried out a full migration to an off the shelf modern BBS package.

This is not rocket science, it's not even expensive to implement and would probably be cheaper than trying to bespoke write this archaic package, which is bloody awful now.
+1, all you have is a bunch of text sat in a database that needs to be stuck in to a different database. Its hardly the worlds biggest ETL project. Christ, the script kiddies manage to write scripts to automate spam posts and some are suggesting its impossible to move to a new forum software.

Out of the box software would mean some proper stability, good performance a working search! and all sorts of other functionality - look at Xen Foro for example, stacks of functionality in that.
I'd suggest it would also return gains in terms of cheaper maintenance and admin immediately.
Moving the forum is the easy part. They'd then have to repeat the SSO project to integrate the forums & classifieds. Also, can you imagine the reaction from the userbase to the drastic change in appearance and functionality ?

Might be better still to move to a hosted solution from Lithium - that seems to be the platform of choice for Sky, BT, EE, Sony, etc.