And then "Yipper chirps up"

And then "Yipper chirps up"

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Funk

26,303 posts

210 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Monkeylegend said:
Funk said:
It's not even useful - due to the 'no name and shame' policy you can't warn people of rogue traders or bad experiences. I can no longer trust PH as a source for recommendations.
Not sure that's the case. Recommendations re good service/traders and good experiences are allowed, and posters always have a way of telling you to avoid certain traders etc by omission of a good review/recommendation.

If you are able to read between the clearly very wide lines it's the same as a bad review.
I disagree as I had recommendations on here to use a particular PHer for something. I approached them and found they committed a serious data security breach - I didn't proceed because of that but I can't say on PH who it was and what went wrong.

I still see plenty of recommendations for people to use that PHer and can say nothing despite what I know and having irrefutable evidence of what they did wrong.

If you're going to allow people to post when PHers do well, you have to allow them to alert users when a PHer fks up.

jeremyc said:
Funk said:
It's not even useful - due to the 'no name and shame' policy you can't warn people of rogue traders or bad experiences. I can no longer trust PH as a source for recommendations.
This has always been the way since the start of PH, so there's been no change.
Hence my comment that PH isn't useful in that way (and never has been). I know the policy hasn't changed and as a result recommendations can't be trusted as you only ever hear the positives and not the negatives.

Edited by Funk on Friday 9th March 14:59

Monkeylegend

26,486 posts

232 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Funk said:
Monkeylegend said:
Funk said:
It's not even useful - due to the 'no name and shame' policy you can't warn people of rogue traders or bad experiences. I can no longer trust PH as a source for recommendations.
Not sure that's the case. Recommendations re good service/traders and good experiences are allowed, and posters always have a way of telling you to avoid certain traders etc by omission of a good review/recommendation.

If you are able to read between the clearly very wide lines it's the same as a bad review.
I disagree as I had recommendations on here to use a particular PHer for something. I approached them and found they committed a serious data security breach - I didn't proceed because of that but I can't say on PH who it was and what went wrong.

I still see plenty of recommendations for people to use that PHer and can say nothing despite what I know and having irrefutable evidence of what they did wrong.

If you're going to allow people to post when PHers do well, you have to allow them to alert users when a PHer fks up.
I think you always have to be a bit careful of anything you read on a website such as this, always best to try and research independently and be careful of any glowing recommendation or for that matter damning criticism. Many posters on sites like these with a personal agenda.

thainy77

3,347 posts

199 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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I think he/she/it is a nob, I couldn’t care less if people think it’s a witch hunt, it offers nothing productive to the site so I see no benefit.

I have also noticed a couple of other new members posting in the same style, will I lose sleep over it? No, but it detracts from what I believe the forums should be.

Yes, there are plenty of argumentative clowns on this site but at least they have an opinion on something which creates a conversation/argument. I see no plus to some random posting a Googled fact then fking off.

Ari

19,353 posts

216 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Ari

19,353 posts

216 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Rawwr said:
After the posts where he's applauding car theft, I'm not sure what he needs to do to get booted off here.

On the plus side, I'm delighted the toothless and inept moderation team and management are giving us free rein to post whatever we like.

Swings and roundabouts?

Edited by Rawwr on Friday 9th March 12:25
To be fair to Yipper and playing devils advocate there is nothing in the rules that says you must hate car theft to post.

You cannot apply moderation by simplying banning users or deleting posts made by those you don't agree with.

hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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xjay1337 said:
To be fair to Yipper and playing devils advocate there is nothing in the rules that says you must hate car theft to post.

You cannot apply moderation by simplying banning users or deleting posts made by those you don't agree with.
Devil's advocate? Comparing a fictional movie chase to a real one, or saying kids can only travel by private jets is nothing but trolling, pure and simple.

Its funny, as recently he went through a spell of toning down his posts and some of them actually added value, but now he is back to being just stupid.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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xjay1337 said:
To be fair to Yipper and playing devils advocate there is nothing in the rules that says you must hate car theft to post.

You cannot apply moderation by simplying banning users or deleting posts made by those you don't agree with.
I don't mind people having differing opinions; that accounts for 99.9999% of threads on the forum. What I can't stand is blatant trolling and the ineptitude in dealing with it.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Meh, I tend not to take myself too seriously, so generally look at things in a lighter-hearted way - perhaps Yipper is the same, sometimes I think "knob" but othertimes I have a little chuckle to myself and the stuff he says and how easily some people get would up by it!

If you don't like him then it's a lot easier to scroll past his contributions and ignore them , than it is to come into another thread and talk about him. smile

It's all a little bit "Hot Fuzz" around 'ere....! smile

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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xjay1337 said:
If you don't like him then it's a lot easier to scroll past his contributions and ignore them , than it is to come into another thread and talk about him. smile
It's not, though. His capacity for derailing and killing a thread is endless.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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Rawwr said:
It's not, though. His capacity for derailing and killing a thread is endless.
Maybe I have missed it - but I've only ever seem him make the odd comment here and there? So I'm not sure how that could kill a thread.

There are worse posters on this board (a small french car for people with tall hats) who while posting more coherently cause more of a problem in my opinion. But again I just ignore them smile

Wacky Racer

38,213 posts

248 months

Friday 9th March 2018
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More nonsense from him on the Kit car thread.

"There is now a lot of social stigma attached to driving a kit car. People know it's not the real thing and you look ridiculous driving one. Years of mockery on Top Gear have killed demand."

gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
More nonsense from him on the Kit car thread.

"There is now a lot of social stigma attached to driving a kit car. People know it's not the real thing and you look ridiculous driving one. Years of mockery on Top Gear have killed demand."
You own a kit car, don't you. smile

Wacky Racer

38,213 posts

248 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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gooner1 said:
Wacky Racer said:
More nonsense from him on the Kit car thread.

"There is now a lot of social stigma attached to driving a kit car. People know it's not the real thing and you look ridiculous driving one. Years of mockery on Top Gear have killed demand."
You own a kit car, don't you. smile
Not now, but I have had a Westfield and a Tiger Supersix.

The main reasons for the decline in the industry are:-

Increasingly tough government legislation.....tests etc.

Shortage of donor cars.....In the eighties you could buy an old Cortina for £100 and you would have 70% of your parts, plus they were RWD.

People don't want to get their hands dirty.

In other words, not the rubbish that Yipper spouts, I bet he's never seen a kit car in his life.


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gooner1

10,223 posts

180 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
Not now, but I have had a Westfield and a Tiger Supersix.

The main reasons for the decline in the industry are:-

Increasingly tough government legislation.....tests etc.

Shortage of donor cars.....In the eighties you could buy an old Cortina for £100 and you would have 70% of your parts, plus they were RWD.

People don't want to get their hands dirty.

In other words, not the rubbish that Yipper spouts, I bet he's never seen a kit car in his life.


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Agreed on the "hands dirty" . I won't buy a car that I physically cannot
work on. Which does somewhat ,increasingly, limit my choice.

As forYipper, just take his posts as light entertainment, not informative. thumbup

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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gooner1 said:
Wacky Racer said:
More nonsense from him on the Kit car thread.

"There is now a lot of social stigma attached to driving a kit car. People know it's not the real thing and you look ridiculous driving one. Years of mockery on Top Gear have killed demand."
You own a kit car, don't you. smile
To be fair he is pretty much spot on with that.

90% of kit cars are awful.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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gooner1 said:
Wacky Racer said:
More nonsense from him on the Kit car thread.

"There is now a lot of social stigma attached to driving a kit car. People know it's not the real thing and you look ridiculous driving one. Years of mockery on Top Gear have killed demand."
You own a kit car, don't you. smile
Classic Yipper trolling.

Possibly a small element of truth mixed in with an OTT opinionated but reasonably well worded comment, designed purely to annoy the other posters (kit car owners) on that thread. Gets exactly the response he wanted, then doesn’t reply to the people he’s annoyed. hehe

I’ve been on the receiving end of it when he first came on here and I thought it was funny. If you think Yipper is trying to upset you, you’re probably correct. Just appreciate his work and move on or try to ignore him if it actually upsets you.


Monkeylegend

26,486 posts

232 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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El stovey said:
Just appreciate his work and move on or try to ignore him if it actually upsets you.
But....but...... we can't do that, we want to get him banned, ignoring is just tooooooo difficult.

mickk

28,935 posts

243 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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I wonder why he hasn't posted on this thread.

Monkeylegend

26,486 posts

232 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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mickk said:
I wonder why he hasn't posted on this thread.
He doesn't need to.
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