When you are barred from a thread....
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Gadgetmac said:
Stick my name into the hat please.
Please God, no. The site wouldn't have any members left by the end of the week given how you manage to get offended by the even the most innocuous posts. Just look at any threads to do with "climate change" if the powers-that-be need evidence. They would just be you and Nickgnome talking between yourselves about how the end is nigh.I think the moderation works well here for the most part. The passive nature allows for threads to be self-governing. If people act like nobs then it's usually not long until someone comes along and tells you that you're being a nob and to stop it (don't ask me how I know this ). I don't have a problem with that. On 90% of forums if you were either of those parties you'd probably get a ban. The Brexit threads on here wouldn't last 2 minutes on any other platform . If things get really heated then often you'll see Al or Scrump step in with a post telling people to calm the fk down or "handbags, ladies" which generally suffices to defuse things. And that's how it should be.
Adding new mods would do more harm than good as those requesting to be mods usually have their own personal agenda and tend to be rather 'power-trippy' in nature so actively go looking for things to remove and people to ban. Those are the worst kind of mods and eventually kill the forums as everyone gets sick to death of their heavy-handed moderating from posts removed that they don't agree with or just because they don't like you. Seeing it happen on a large civil aviation forum right now that introduced about 20 new moderators 6 months ago, most of whom seem to be totally unsuitable to the role .
Lemming Train said:
Gadgetmac said:
Stick my name into the hat please.
Please God, no. The site wouldn't have any members left by the end of the week given how you manage to get offended by the even the most innocuous posts. Just look at any threads to do with "climate change" if the powers-that-be need evidence. They would just be you and Nickgnome talking between yourselves about how the end is nigh.I think the moderation works well here for the most part. The passive nature allows for threads to be self-governing. If people act like nobs then it's usually not long until someone comes along and tells you that you're being a nob and to stop it (don't ask me how I know this ). I don't have a problem with that. On 90% of forums if you were either of those parties you'd probably get a ban. The Brexit threads on here wouldn't last 2 minutes on any other platform . If things get really heated then often you'll see Al or Scrump step in with a post telling people to calm the fk down or "handbags, ladies" which generally suffices to defuse things. And that's how it should be.
Adding new mods would do more harm than good as those requesting to be mods usually have their own personal agenda and tend to be rather 'power-trippy' in nature so actively go looking for things to remove and people to ban. Those are the worst kind of mods and eventually kill the forums as everyone gets sick to death of their heavy-handed moderating from posts removed that they don't agree with or just because they don't like you. Seeing it happen on a large civil aviation forum right now that introduced about 20 new moderators 6 months ago, most of whom seem to be totally unsuitable to the role .
Most of the time threads are self moderated and a robust, quick witted response is generally enough to calm down a poster from the edge of eternal bandom. There is, however, times where moderation has been lacking where some nasty insults have been thrown or where an obvious (and quite open about it) returned banee posts with almost impunity or sets up second accounts (and usually ends up arguing with themselves ).
I appreciate that mods can’t read every thread and tend to react to reported posts but I think there’s a little ‘old skool’ mentality where you don’t grass or simply can’t be bothered and move onto another thread as at the end of the day, it is just a forum.
Saying that, I know fk all about football and have no life so if mod numbers need strengthening then I’d throw my hat in (as long as no one disses trains, instant ban!)
Lemming Train said:
Gadgetmac said:
Stick my name into the hat please.
Please God, no. The site wouldn't have any members left by the end of the week given how you manage to get offended by the even the most innocuous posts. Just look at any threads to do with "climate change" if the powers-that-be need evidence. They would just be you and Nickgnome talking between yourselves about how the end is nigh.I think the moderation works well here for the most part. The passive nature allows for threads to be self-governing. If people act like nobs then it's usually not long until someone comes along and tells you that you're being a nob and to stop it (don't ask me how I know this ). I don't have a problem with that. On 90% of forums if you were either of those parties you'd probably get a ban. The Brexit threads on here wouldn't last 2 minutes on any other platform . If things get really heated then often you'll see Al or Scrump step in with a post telling people to calm the fk down or "handbags, ladies" which generally suffices to defuse things. And that's how it should be.
Adding new mods would do more harm than good as those requesting to be mods usually have their own personal agenda and tend to be rather 'power-trippy' in nature so actively go looking for things to remove and people to ban. Those are the worst kind of mods and eventually kill the forums as everyone gets sick to death of their heavy-handed moderating from posts removed that they don't agree with or just because they don't like you. Seeing it happen on a large civil aviation forum right now that introduced about 20 new moderators 6 months ago, most of whom seem to be totally unsuitable to the role .
I note that thread disruption started last night in the Question Time thread. A supposed quiet poster who suddenly starts posting again deliberately started popping at people then pretended to be outraged and started hitting report button.
The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
techiedave said:
I note that thread disruption started last night in the Question Time thread. A supposed quiet poster who suddenly starts posting again deliberately started popping at people then pretended to be outraged and started hitting report button.
The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
It’s a shame Al has (rather hastily imho) removed you from the new moderator primaries Techiedave, you’d be good at sorting this kind of thing out.The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Good that you haven’t given up on trying to help, despite the cruel rejection of your genuine, serious and heartfelt offer to become a moderator earlier.
Big Al. said:
El stovey said:
It’s a shame Al has (rather hastily imho) removed you from the new moderator primaries.
Sorry I missed that post. techiedave said:
BigMon said:
I don't think you're the right person to be a mod.
I suspect you won't agree but there we are.
Erm I wasn't remotely being serious.I suspect you won't agree but there we are.
Yay techiedave can become a mod after all!
techiedave said:
I note that thread disruption started last night in the Question Time thread. A supposed quiet poster who suddenly starts posting again deliberately started popping at people then pretended to be outraged and started hitting report button.
The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Previously banned or a sleeper account? I notice he has a very narrow set of interests.The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Supercilious Sid said:
techiedave said:
I note that thread disruption started last night in the Question Time thread. A supposed quiet poster who suddenly starts posting again deliberately started popping at people then pretended to be outraged and started hitting report button.
The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Previously banned or a sleeper account? I notice he has a very narrow set of interests.The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Sticks out like a sore thumb. Deliberately posting to wind people up gets a blunter response than he would have liked and hits report.
Phrasing is similar to a previous poster who popped at me about 6 months ago.
Supercilious Sid said:
techiedave said:
I note that thread disruption started last night in the Question Time thread. A supposed quiet poster who suddenly starts posting again deliberately started popping at people then pretended to be outraged and started hitting report button.
The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Previously banned or a sleeper account? I notice he has a very narrow set of interests.The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
techiedave said:
Supercilious Sid said:
techiedave said:
I note that thread disruption started last night in the Question Time thread. A supposed quiet poster who suddenly starts posting again deliberately started popping at people then pretended to be outraged and started hitting report button.
The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Previously banned or a sleeper account? I notice he has a very narrow set of interests.The posters phrasing is so similar to another poster who did similar Id be surprised if it wasn't the same person
Sticks out like a sore thumb. Deliberately posting to wind people up gets a blunter response than he would have liked and hits report.
Phrasing is similar to a previous poster who popped at me about 6 months ago.
It’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
Gadgetmac said:
I’ve just read that thread and you were the first one to have a pop at him at 23:35 or am I missing an earlier confrontation.
It’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
You are missing the earlier responsesIt’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
He is doing it right now on the London Bridge thread
I am not the only person to spot it
techiedave said:
Gadgetmac said:
I’ve just read that thread and you were the first one to have a pop at him at 23:35 or am I missing an earlier confrontation.
It’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
You are missing the earlier responsesIt’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
He is doing it right now on the London Bridge thread
I am not the only person to spot it
dickymint said:
techiedave said:
Gadgetmac said:
I’ve just read that thread and you were the first one to have a pop at him at 23:35 or am I missing an earlier confrontation.
It’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
You are missing the earlier responsesIt’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
He is doing it right now on the London Bridge thread
I am not the only person to spot it
techiedave said:
Gadgetmac said:
I’ve just read that thread and you were the first one to have a pop at him at 23:35 or am I missing an earlier confrontation.
It’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
You are missing the earlier responsesIt’s also clear that because he had a different POV to the rest of the baying mob posting on that thread so the insults about him being a previously banned poster/troll started.
I stand to be corrected though so over to you.
He is doing it right now on the London Bridge thread
I am not the only person to spot it
Jeez, have you seen how many posts on PH blame Labour for everything from the late delivery of their milk to the crucifixion of Jesus?
Hardly evidence of being a returned banned poster or troll. If you stopped the people banging on about the evils of Labour from posting you’d have no forums left at all
El stovey said:
As we can see from this thread, it’s a pretty thankless task and all done in an environment where the owners are spending less time and effort and money on the actual forums. What was once a forum with a sales section is now a sales site with a forum remaining. If it or we attract a bad image or too much strife for the owners they’ll just get rid of it, and us.
So er thanks, for doing it mods.
The forum is probably the largest asset the sales section has. It is a constant 24/7 source of newly created content to feed into search engines - fantastic for SEO. If you search for “mclaren reliability”, the PH forum dominates the top Google natural listings / results. Searching for “McLaren 720S for sale”, has a similar result. It is the same for other marques. Without the forum, I think the PH sales section would struggle to perform highly for natural listings.So er thanks, for doing it mods.
Edited by El stovey on Wednesday 27th November 07:00
It is in the interest of PH to clean up the content and keep owners and enthusiasts engaged. If the content becomes non-relevant and/or diluted with crap, the search engines will demote the listings and/or remove altogether. If owners or enthusiasts are driven away due to idiots / baiters / trolls making it a hostile and unpleasant environment, they will take their content elsewhere. I have already seen this happen within the McLaren forum, but since the Mods got deeply engaged with it a few months ago, banning some of the regular idiots, the forum has become a better source of reliable information. Real owners are contributing more regular information.
I don’t think PH will ever get rid of the forums. They need to make them more engaging to attract much more reliable and focussed content.
ChocolateFrog said:
Something I learnt recently.
If someone calls you a moron, that's
If you reply calling them a , that's
Got it, I'll stick to moron in the future.
Liverpool CWC champions
That's something I learnt too a while back.If someone calls you a moron, that's
If you reply calling them a , that's
Got it, I'll stick to moron in the future.
Liverpool CWC champions
Someone writes rubbish and closes it off with a frankly quite mild insult.
You reply back setting them right on their facts and finish off with exactly the same mild insult they've used, and then move onto ignore mode. That gets you a final warning.
Anyway as far as football is concerned, I know not very much of anything. Yay Huddersfield Town, good win over Forest! Come on Town.
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