News, Politics & Economic forum rule review

[easyhome]

On the plus side, I’m now 6 posts closer to the magic number. Although all but one were completely pointless.

[72uoba]

Monkeylegend said:

easyhome said:

I’d like to complain about this ridiculous 1000 post rule. I’ve only just discovered this, as I wanted to offer some info regarding a question asked by some in the USA mass shootings thread.

As you can see, I’ve been a member for some years now, but I don’t post that often. A 1000 posts seems a bizarrely high number to me.

I can’t see much point in even looking at the threads in NP&E anymore if I’m not going to be able to offer anything to them.

Edited by easyhome on Wednesday 6th July 20:29

To be fair your post count suggests you haven't offered that much to date.

This whole post count/posts per month thing really bothers me. It's so start of the internet, new forum stuff, where you're desperate for all members to contribute to build the momentum to get a new forum off the mark. This forum is very much established, there are many members; I've said before on a previous topic that I was brought here through the car angle but it's the breadth of the forum that kept me coming back.

Surely there's a strong argument that long term members who post infrequently are likely to be more considered in when they post and the content of their posts?

The rule that's been imposed is one thing. The glee it in being implemented and the scorn directed at those who's post count to month ratio fails to hit an arbitrary threshold is astonishing. And there's just so much irony in the spite displayed in the arguments that those who meet these thresholds engage in about diversity and inclusion, that it beggars belief.

Maybe there could be a junior NP&E section, where the infrequent and unworthy contributors could debate the issues of the day? And if more seasoned members (post wise, not age) deemed their debates healthy (although occasionally as crass as those >1000 posts) they could be 'promoted' to the real NP&E?

Pistonheads - post st 1000 times and you're properly in ;-)

[dickymint]

My solution is to make NP&E pay to post!! Nasty toxic place.

[UVB-76]

It was the go too place for news. Usually someone had some info before things hit mainstream. Way before I signed up I was an avid reader.

The demographic has certainly changed since the mid 00's and I find it almost unusable.
Obviously there are some veteran's from the good old days. The poster that turned up above to argue was obviously there but due to the quality of posts I imagine got drowned out.

[witteringon]

There must be a more intelligent way of dealing with this specific (perceived) problem.

Forums such as PH are struggling against the relentless rise of other social media, and will eventually fade away if potential contributors are not encouraged in a sensible way, rather than having obstacles placed against their desire to post, even if only very occasionally..

[Dan-k]

easyhome said:

I’m not sure how saying I don’t spend every waking minute on here comes across as saying I have more important things to do? Just that I don’t come on every day, so often most of a thread has been talked to death by the time I see it.

It’s not worth arguing the point mate - that’s how the high posters hit their numbers they come back with stupid quips and make dumb assumptions to draw you out and try and make themselves seem important.

Just play the game and quote each one singularly and reply talk down to them in the manner they deserve and job done - you’ll hit the 1000 post mark.

Just go on any thread and criticise a cyclist it’s draws them out really quickly - it’s quite entertaining, reading the reply’s of the swarm trying to outdo the previous poster probably while nodding their heads.

Look at that another post closer to the mythical 1000 barrier.

[Monkeylegend]

This forum is what it is because many people post on here rather a lot.

If it relied on the very casual, low count posters who apparently only post when they have something important to say, it would have shut down many years ago.

The fact that you have posters like me who post a lot of rubbish should be celebrated, it is keeping the forum alive, and in some cases forum members.

[Dan-k]

Monkeylegend said:

This forum is what it is because many people post on here rather a lot.

If it relied on the very casual, low count posters who apparently only post when they have something important to say, it would have shut down many years ago.

The fact that you have posters like me who post a lot of rubbish should be celebrated, it is keeping the forum alive, and in some cases forum members.

Yes I agree and you have replied in a constructive manner

But this seldom happens which in itself stops casual poster from posting. Nobody with a low post count wants to comment on a thread, then get draw into an back and forth with idiots piling on with stupid unrelated pointless observational comments. Normally these posters have high counts.

I posted on a thread the other day and immediately 3 or 4 piling on. 1 that immediately made a comment about my driving skill knowing nothing about the situation at the time.

Or when somebody posts they’re leaving and then you get the clever dicks posting - “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” dhead behaviour in full effect because there isn’t a door in the first place. So just a stupid comment to make.

[easyhome]

Dan-k said:

Yes I agree and you have replied in a constructive manner

But this seldom happens which in itself stops casual poster from posting. Nobody with a low post count wants to comment on a thread, then get draw into an back and forth with idiots piling on with stupid unrelated pointless observational comments. Normally these posters have high counts.

I posted on a thread the other day and immediately 3 or 4 piling on. 1 that immediately made a comment about my driving skill knowing nothing about the situation at the time.

Or when somebody posts they’re leaving and then you get the clever dicks posting - “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” dhead behaviour in full effect because there isn’t a door in the first place. So just a stupid comment to make.

Well said (887 to go )

[Monkeylegend]

easyhome said:

Dan-k said:

Yes I agree and you have replied in a constructive manner

But this seldom happens which in itself stops casual poster from posting. Nobody with a low post count wants to comment on a thread, then get draw into an back and forth with idiots piling on with stupid unrelated pointless observational comments. Normally these posters have high counts.

I posted on a thread the other day and immediately 3 or 4 piling on. 1 that immediately made a comment about my driving skill knowing nothing about the situation at the time.

Or when somebody posts they’re leaving and then you get the clever dicks posting - “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” dhead behaviour in full effect because there isn’t a door in the first place. So just a stupid comment to make.

Well said (887 to go )

877

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Monkeylegend said:

This forum is what it is because many people post on here rather a lot.

If it relied on the very casual, low count posters who apparently only post when they have something important to say, it would have shut down many years ago.

The fact that you have posters like me who post a lot of rubbish should be celebrated, it is keeping the forum alive, and in some cases forum members.

You put it far better than I did.

Monkeylegend said:

877

These people racking up their post counts eh? Not like quality posters who post less than once a month.


(For the avoidance of any doubt, this is being said with gentle humour)

Edited by Clockwork Cupcake on Thursday 7th July 22:03

[Rufus Stone]

Does anyone really think that PH towers give a stuff about anyone that has been excluded from certain sections of the forum for no good reason?

They weald their powers anonymously and without consideration to effects that may cause on the individuals effected.

[rigga]

Rufus Stone said:

Does anyone really think that PH towers give a stuff about anyone that has been excluded from certain sections of the forum for no good reason?

They weald their powers anonymously and without consideration to effects that may cause on the individuals effected.

There was a good reason it was implemented, it's unfortunate however it's affected others who weren't causing issues.

Dammed whatever they did.

[tracer.smart]

This is a ridiculous rule.

I’m apparently not an engaged car enthusiast after 190 months of membership.

I went to post on NPE on my frustration at the Westminster circus and general unhappiness at state intervention and incompetence… only to find posting blocked with website admin intervention!

Sort it out please - either you are here for your members or you are not.

[Clockwork Cupcake]

tracer.smart said:

I’m apparently not an engaged car enthusiast after 190 months of membership.

In what way are you engaged? You mean you enjoy reading other people's posts but seldom give anything back?

If the majority likewise rarely posted then the forums would die on their arse and get closed down.

[Chromegrill]

easyhome said:

On the plus side, I’m now 6 posts closer to the magic number. Although all but one were completely pointless.

You're assuming it won't be increased to 2000 on the day you hit 999.

[Dan-k]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

In what way are you engaged? You mean you enjoy reading other people's posts but seldom give anything back?

If the majority likewise rarely posted then the forums would die on their arse and get closed down.

Do you not think that these non posters also provide traffic to the site which In turn sells advertising which creates the revenue?

Or is the arguing and bickering that gives the site the money?

(Another post closer to the 1000)

[Clockwork Cupcake]

Dan-k said:

Do you not think that these non posters also provide traffic to the site which In turn sells advertising which creates the revenue?

Or is the arguing and bickering that gives the site the money?

(Another post closer to the 1000)

I've frequently seen the PH forums referred to as "active and vibrant" and I suspect that this was a major consideration in CarGuru's valuation of the site, and Haymarket's before it.

Besides, a dead forum that nobody posts to doesn't drive traffic for long.

So, in order to have an active forum people need to contribute rather than just leaving it to others.

Besides, isn't it more fun to interact?

[tracer.smart]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

tracer.smart said:

I’m apparently not an engaged car enthusiast after 190 months of membership.

In what way are you engaged? You mean you enjoy reading other people's posts but seldom give anything back?

If the majority likewise rarely posted then the forums would die on their arse and get closed down.

For the uneducated amongst us, engaged should mean I take valuable time out to use the site irrespective of how often I contribute. The site benefits from me as a qualified audience - serving me tailored ads, my click throughs and getting my eyes on their content. Plus they have my contact details which could be marketable under certain conditions.

And when I do post when I have the time, sometimes people benefit from my knowledge for free. Those poor in time give much more generously than the rich in time, don’t you think?

Edited by tracer.smart on Friday 8th July 22:22

[Dan-k]

Clockwork Cupcake said:

I've frequently seen the PH forums referred to as "active and vibrant" and I suspect that this was a major consideration in CarGuru's valuation of the site, and Haymarket's before it.

Besides, a dead forum that nobody posts to doesn't drive traffic for long.

So, in order to have an active forum people need to contribute rather than just leaving it to others.

Besides, isn't it more fun to interact?

Yes It is obviously more interesting to interact.

You only have to look at the guy that posted about his tyres to see he had loads and loads of fun. People searching his car history and commenting on his legal tyre choice for various what of you got caught in the rain questions

And the kellerman thread (which his driving was bad but not to the extent the thread went to) but when people say “take it to the track” he did and then had people taking the piss out of him - car choice/passenger choice/lap times compared to mx5’s/asking if he also drove a skyline with his elbow on the door etc etc.

If it was more constructive criticism instead of the regulars ganging up taking the piss out of his passengers laugh etc etc.

Anyway I’ve had enough of replying as I don’t really want to post in npe anyway and I’ve got real life stuff to do

Have a good evening.