what to look for when buying a Murcielago

what to look for when buying a Murcielago

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Dave R D

Original Poster:

185 posts

136 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Which is best coupe or soft top? Never been in one so do not know what to look out for.

andysv

1,330 posts

228 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Soft top sure looks cool but with the lid on the top speed is severely restricted and that must be a PITA, I know you can't nail them all the time but the odd blast is pretty satisfying. Not sure what to look out for generally as mine does nothing wrong but I heard bat wing vents can pack up and throttle bodies can stick other than that it was distantly overseen by Audi so should be tough.

andysv

1,330 posts

228 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Soft top sure looks cool but with the lid on the top speed is severely restricted and that must be a PITA, I know you can't nail them all the time but the odd blast is pretty satisfying. Not sure what to look out for generally as mine does nothing wrong but I heard bat wing vents can pack up and throttle bodies can stick other than that it was distantly overseen by Audi so should be tough.

ruttboy

595 posts

227 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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The Murcielago was heavily developed by Audi, to the point that they delayed its introduction by 3 years, released the 6.0 litre Diablos and went back to the drawing board.
Coupe is best as it is way more usable, and I know I am going to upset some good people with Roadsters, but the Roadster is a much more extreme car with lower ride height, lower windscreen and way much more noise.
We call it a "20 minute car" as that's how long you'd want to drive it for in this country.
Different story in warmer climates.

What to look for, well here's a start.
The car has an anti-stall setting in the engine ECU which will allow you to move the car in traffic without the use of the throttle.
This is recommended to avoid clutch wear in traffic.
However, in manual cars, it also allows you to identify clutch wear without a mechanics inspection.
The rule of thumb is that for every 200 revs above 1,000 needed to move the car without throttle equals 20% clutch wear, so if the car pulls away at 1,400 rpm, you have about 40% clutch wear.

Also, as a result of the electonic throttle bodies, when starting the vehicle keep feet off all the pedals otherwise you disrupt the settings and that's when you hears cars hunting for revs on idle.

The wiper motors are right behind the air intake for the A/C and are prone to blow when you drive the car in the rain with A/C on and the wiper going!!

The motors for the flaps are also on the same ECU as the rear spoiler, so if the vents don't go up on the button, you may have issues with the spoiler as well.

The front lifting system should work well, but over use causes the seals on the front shocks to wear and leak.

The lights all round mist up unless they have had the service campaign carried out to drill holes in them.

And the adjustable suspension should cycle through its settings when selected at idle with no warning lights.

The Murcielago was all the best bits of Lamborghini twinned with the best bits of Audi.

Early 6.2 cars are rougher round the edges and vibrate more than the 6.5 cars, and the SV is one of the ultimate Supercars, not just one of the best Lamborghinis.

Please let me know if you need any help, further advice or just a friendly chat on this, it's what I do.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.

ruttboy

595 posts

227 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Andy SV, you need to come and see me.

I have new toys to play with.

Please look at my profile, not going to break rules on here by posting it.

Warm regards to you and all of your family,

Alan..

lambo666

451 posts

119 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Many thanks for that info, first decent bit of advice i have read on here in some time.
LP640 for me when budget allows, will be getting mine from Europe due to cost savings end of next year hopefully. Will save this thread and contact you before i go searching for some advice.

jdwcd

2,517 posts

203 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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I have to disagree on bits of that. Having owned 3 roadsters and 1 coupe and having driven thousands of miles, Touching 30 plus thousand around uk and europe.

The roadster will push 155 with the roof on btw wink

ruttboy

595 posts

227 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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jdwcd said:
I have to disagree on bits of that. Having owned 3 roadsters and 1 coupe and having driven thousands of miles, Touching 30 plus thousand around uk and europe.

The roadster will push 155 with the roof on btw wink
I knew you'd be along soon!!

A lot of what I have written about the difference between Coupe and Roadster is subjective and personal preference.
Certainly not writing the Roadster off, just saying that for me, I prefer the Coupe as the Roadsters I have driven I have found to be very full on, whereas the Coupe you get the best of both worlds.

And JDWCD, don't forget to let me know how I can help you.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.

845ste

577 posts

128 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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soft: max 160kmh
without soft: max vel

it dipends where you live.....

Dave R D

Original Poster:

185 posts

136 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Thanks great helpful posts.
Always a good idea to find out as much as possible about Murcielago before jumping in and ending up with a car you are not happy with.
Who near southeast is best for a PPI?
There are a few cat d cars for sale, any thought's. Did buy one once and lost lots when the
time came to sell.

andysv

1,330 posts

228 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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ruttboy said:
Andy SV, you need to come and see me.

I have new toys to play with.

Please look at my profile, not going to break rules on here by posting it.

Warm regards to you and all of your family,

Alan..
Good read Alan, I will catch up soon, the mention of toys always gets me going!

andysv

1,330 posts

228 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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jdwcd said:
The roadster will push 155 with the roof on btw wink
I don't doubt you one bit but I just had a chuckle imagining a driver watching the speedo climb and at the same time keeping an eye on the bulging roof about to depart the car! Nerves of steel.

AtlantisWeb

358 posts

171 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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I always thought the Roadster looked amazing parked up with no roof on, but if the driver is anything over 5ft 8in tall, it looks like a huge big headed man driving a dodgem car. I remember seeing a guy in a white & black one at Goodwood. He must have been about 6ft 6 tall, but looked most uncomfortable with his head sticking out the top. Lovely car though.

ruttboy

595 posts

227 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Dave R D said:
Thanks great helpful posts.
Always a good idea to find out as much as possible about Murcielago before jumping in and ending up with a car you are not happy with.
Who near southeast is best for a PPI?
There are a few cat d cars for sale, any thought's. Did buy one once and lost lots when the
time came to sell.
I can help you with the PPI.

PM me for more details please.

Ruttboy.

jdwcd

2,517 posts

203 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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haha. thats diablo pete. He always looks funny



AtlantisWeb said:
I always thought the Roadster looked amazing parked up with no roof on, but if the driver is anything over 5ft 8in tall, it looks like a huge big headed man driving a dodgem car. I remember seeing a guy in a white & black one at Goodwood. He must have been about 6ft 6 tall, but looked most uncomfortable with his head sticking out the top. Lovely car though.

jdwcd

2,517 posts

203 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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Its sold mate.

Its funny but Carl Hartley said I would never sell it privately.

Err yeh ok


And JDWCD, don't forget to let me know how I can help you.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.
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andrew

9,973 posts

193 months

Monday 14th September 2015
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biggrin

have you seen him lately jon ?

jdwcd said:
haha. thats diablo pete. He always looks funny



AtlantisWeb said:
I always thought the Roadster looked amazing parked up with no roof on, but if the driver is anything over 5ft 8in tall, it looks like a huge big headed man driving a dodgem car. I remember seeing a guy in a white & black one at Goodwood. He must have been about 6ft 6 tall, but looked most uncomfortable with his head sticking out the top. Lovely car though.

John Rutter

85 posts

177 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Hello Ruttboy,

it been a few months since my last mail. I hope you are well. Just scanning the forums and noticed this piece on Murci anti stall setting, and how to check clutch wear. I have not heard of either of these. Could you PM to discuss in detail. Regards, John
ruttboy said:
The Murcielago was heavily developed by Audi, to the point that they delayed its introduction by 3 years, released the 6.0 litre Diablos and went back to the drawing board.
Coupe is best as it is way more usable, and I know I am going to upset some good people with Roadsters, but the Roadster is a much more extreme car with lower ride height, lower windscreen and way much more noise.
We call it a "20 minute car" as that's how long you'd want to drive it for in this country.
Different story in warmer climates.

What to look for, well here's a start.
The car has an anti-stall setting in the engine ECU which will allow you to move the car in traffic without the use of the throttle.
This is recommended to avoid clutch wear in traffic.
However, in manual cars, it also allows you to identify clutch wear without a mechanics inspection.
The rule of thumb is that for every 200 revs above 1,000 needed to move the car without throttle equals 20% clutch wear, so if the car pulls away at 1,400 rpm, you have about 40% clutch wear.

Also, as a result of the electonic throttle bodies, when starting the vehicle keep feet off all the pedals otherwise you disrupt the settings and that's when you hears cars hunting for revs on idle.

The wiper motors are right behind the air intake for the A/C and are prone to blow when you drive the car in the rain with A/C on and the wiper going!!

The motors for the flaps are also on the same ECU as the rear spoiler, so if the vents don't go up on the button, you may have issues with the spoiler as well.

The front lifting system should work well, but over use causes the seals on the front shocks to wear and leak.

The lights all round mist up unless they have had the service campaign carried out to drill holes in them.

And the adjustable suspension should cycle through its settings when selected at idle with no warning lights.

The Murcielago was all the best bits of Lamborghini twinned with the best bits of Audi.

Early 6.2 cars are rougher round the edges and vibrate more than the 6.5 cars, and the SV is one of the ultimate Supercars, not just one of the best Lamborghinis.

Please let me know if you need any help, further advice or just a friendly chat on this, it's what I do.

Cheers,

Ruttboy.

ruttboy

595 posts

227 months

Saturday 7th November 2015
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Hi John,

I can't seem to get an email through to you.

Send me one to Alan@svr.uk.com and ask me whatever you need to know.

Cheers,

Alan.

Fuoco

94 posts

165 months

Sunday 15th November 2015
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I just dropped you an email
ruttboy said:
Hi John,

I can't seem to get an email through to you.

Send me one to Alan@svr.uk.com and ask me whatever you need to know.

Cheers,

Alan.