Murcielago purchase

[SirCarsAllot]

the normal cliche kid here, Lamborghini Countach poster, Diablo experience around Mallory as soon as was possible, long string of performance cars through my 20s, 30s & 40s…

I have some nice cars to cover track days, GT, everyday duties etc so found myself ready for Lamborghini ownership as it wouldnt be havitn to take more than 2k a year usage, so found myself testing an Aventador SVJ back in july last year, unfortunately i wasnt that taken, apart from the noise! I didnt like how heavy it felt, the steering, gearbox was woeful for a new car (more like the Cambiocorsa from the maserati 4200 from early 2000s) and its cabin noise due to tyres, suspension, grit etc left me somewhat disillusioned.

what i took from this was the fact i wanted the V12 noise but without as much asbo! so i went and purchased a Vanquish V12S, which was a mistake tbh, great car and certainly ticks the V12 noise (louder than the SVJ!) but i just havent gelled with it, its too close to one of our other cars but its not as good, all it has is the V12 noise and the looks are a bit meh for me.

So I’m moving back toward a classic Lamborghini which i played with the idea of before and now having read up a bit more on it, i really think its the sweet spot in Lamborghinis history for me, its a bit more plain in its looks than the models that sit either side of it but still outrageous enough for me to adore it, i’m hoping (not driven yet) that it’ll have more of the Diablos characteristics which were a little unwieldy and intimidating (of which i like)

I’ll read all the relevant posts on here as i go but in the meantime, is there any advice on what to look for and what ‘must haves’ there should be? lift is an essential from my perspective, would like manual but i’m open to the e-gear having had the robotised system on the maserati (will test though)

I dont want a black car and prefer non black interior, open to convertible but prefer hardtop, looks like convertibles arent as desirable from pricing?

I have a healthy budget but dont want to push above 200k really, prefer to be around the 160 mark..

There’s 7 relevant cars on AT at the moment, which would be your choice? I’m guessing the last one at motorhub is a big no no

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202109307...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/201805186...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/201812012...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202003208...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202010014...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202111049...

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202108085...

[jm8403]

Pretty sure the second one was owned by supercarsoflondon which has a pretty well known history...

[snoopy25]

jm8403 said:

Pretty sure the second one was owned by supercarsoflondon which has a pretty well known history...

Nah SOL had his resprayed black at great cost to himself, he then sold it not long after.

[supersport]

The Autologix car was discussed on here a few or more weeks back. I like that one.

The last one, just don’t.

[Ferruccio]

A manual Murci is still a much more modern car than an early 2wd Diablo, which has no abs, no traction control, no power steering, no lift.
But that also means less of those things to go wrong.
As always, drive your potential choices and usually you just know…….

[SirCarsAllot]

Thanks gents, any insight like that is very useful..

I will of course get my bum in the seat, having now driven the Av & Diablo, i’m hoping the Murci sits somewhere between, if it does then i think it’ll be the one for me.

I do have the luxury of choosing from anywhere in europe to and have bought many a good car from german dealerships, who at the moment have a decent selection to, i’m actually traveling back down through europe from uk this week in my track car, so may divert, visit the ring, spa and get a Murci test along route..

Perfection would be a uk registered lhd car, which there is one but its black i could wrap it but i’d prefer an original colour tbh.

Anyway, as ferruccio says, i need to get my butt in one, dont want another vanquish purchase.

[Ferruccio]

A Murci doesn’t really sit between a Diablo and an AV SV or SVJ.

The latter are different. Brutal.
In a way that a Diablo or Murci is “just” a very fast car.

[jm8403]

snoopy25 said:

Nah SOL had his resprayed black at great cost to himself, he then sold it not long after.

Yeah TH had it for sale but who knows with these cars if its a wrap or not

[SirCarsAllot]

Ferruccio said:

A Murci doesn’t really sit between a Diablo and an AV SV or SVJ.

The latter are different. Brutal.
In a way that a Diablo or Murci is “just” a very fast car.

I honestly didn’t think it was brutal but it depends what you’re measuring it against, I guess, V12s are quite linear in their delivery in my experience (though limited to the SVJ, Diablo & vanquish) my turbo track car has similar power to the SVJ but is a couple of hundred kg lighter and turbo, that definitely feels brutal, to me.

I’m not expecting straight line performance from the Murcielago to be ‘wow’ but I know it’ll certainly be enough for the road when wound up, especially with the noise to keep it company, may fit a valved pi or larini system if they do one.

Anyway, mooching around Uk Tuesday and I see, Dave is it? At pangbourne gets good mentions around the Murcielago, is it worth maybe paying him a visit?

Any other pointers on must haves for the car apart from lift?

[Ferruccio]

SirCarsAllot said:

Dave is it? At pangbourne gets good mentions around the Murcielago, is it worth maybe paying him a visit?

He looks after mine.
I’d get him to do you report, if there’s one you think you want.

[andrew]

Ferruccio said:

SirCarsAllot said:

Dave is it? At pangbourne gets good mentions around the Murcielago, is it worth maybe paying him a visit?

He looks after mine.
I’d get him to do you report, if there’s one you think you want.

dave also gets to drive many different cars and gives an interesting insight into their relative merits

[Rude]

I’d recommend popping down to VVS. I’ve got a deposit down on one there. Great to deal with and a large stock to browse.

[SirCarsAllot]

Got down to see james at vvs, top guy, spent most of the day chatting with him and then testing the silver 640.

At least i know i prefer the Murci to the AV SVJ and i’m now I’m definitely committed to getting one..

Good advice going down there, thanks, back home deliberating now, unsure on the Singapore imports though, most servicing was done there and was only imported by pangbourne after 8 years, in 2016

Peoples opinions on the imports?

[Ferruccio]

They’ve all been imported from Italy.

[SirCarsAllot]

Ferruccio said:

They’ve all been imported from Italy.

Of course but thats direct isnt it, going via another country for a few years first is the real point and what can be hidden in those years

[Rude]

Not sure how I feel about the imports. I guess it depends on how the inspection goes and the general condition/history, as much as you can see. I would prefer a UK car if all other matters tied up similarly, though.

[apertureasm]

Rude said:

Not sure how I feel about the imports. I guess it depends on how the inspection goes and the general condition/history, as much as you can see. I would prefer a UK car if all other matters tied up similarly, though.

If history and condition is decent, then I don't see a problem. Singapore cars are usually very well looked after and pretty much have no mileage on them, they just sit in garages

[SirCarsAllot]

apertureasm said:

Rude said:

Not sure how I feel about the imports. I guess it depends on how the inspection goes and the general condition/history, as much as you can see. I would prefer a UK car if all other matters tied up similarly, though.

If history and condition is decent, then I don't see a problem. Singapore cars are usually very well looked after and pretty much have no mileage on them, they just sit in garages

I tend to agree, personally i’m not bothered as long as the servicing checks out and can be validated and the BIG service items have been carried out.

Harder re-sale because of this foreign history has me a little concerned though, this particular model at the dealers has been hanging around for quite a while and its most likely because of this, as the condition of the car seems pretty good tbh.

Ive been looking all over europe the last 6 weeks and there seems little movement in the market vs other marques / models, so not much new choice coming on, is the Murci market like this generally?

I’m not sure going with a car just because theres nothing else that turns me on, is the right thing to do! the car i’m looking at i like, but the colour isnt first choice (silver) but there is a wrapping possibility, not sure..

When i was at VVS i saw a Huracan Performante and it really struck me, i’d never seen one up close and i thought it was pretty tbh.

Maybe a Hracan as an interim Lambo fix until the right Murci comes along?

I have a track car already but i could do some track work with this to, anyone run or have run both? Never had a V10, so this would be another box ticked…

Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 07:00

[Ferruccio]

SirCarsAllot said:

Ive been looking all over europe the last 6 weeks and there seems little movement in the market vs other marques / models, so not much new choice coming on, is the Murci market like this generally?

Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 07:00

They only made about 4,000 of them.

[SirCarsAllot]

Ferruccio said:

SirCarsAllot said:

Ive been looking all over europe the last 6 weeks and there seems little movement in the market vs other marques / models, so not much new choice coming on, is the Murci market like this generally?

Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 07:00

They only made about 4,000 of them.

2000 in europe? I’d say only 40-50 are currently for sale in europe.. (inc. uk)

Edited by SirCarsAllot on Wednesday 11th May 12:03