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toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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What about this girl:



Mass produced in numbers certainly, but they are still very stylish.

And when they first appeared , it was as if an alien spaceship had landed. Brave and exciting.

Cheap now too. And with a big V8 I believe.

yertis

18,072 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Ah yes Alfa Romeo Montreal (says the man who snuck off when he was supposed to be packing) as owned by one Yasmin LeBon...

She flogged her's a couple of years ago, IIRC.

Is there any point in buying cheaper examples of these Italian beauties? There was an Indy floating around for ages looking for offers on £11000 - seemed either a lot of car for the money, or a lot of trouble.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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And we have'nt even started to explore the output from the specialist coachbuilders.

There are numerous Alfa and Lancia's with Zagato bodies to explore. Some of them simply lovely.

dinkel

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26,966 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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toppstuff said:
What about this girl:

( . . . ) And with a big V8 I believe.



http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=93619&f=99&h=0&hw=montreal

You can even read the specs here. Neighbour has one . . .

The TZ is my favourite small Italian.


The Lancia Stratos is awesome. My god an F-logo!


Say whatever you want: this is my 70s Rari. (I just do it. But really I gave it some thought so spare me). It's not red.


A better pic of the Flying Star by Touring.


>> Edited by dinkel on Friday 13th August 11:39

zeroshift

8,188 posts

244 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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This thread needs printing and publishing.

yertis

18,072 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Dinkel, you know a Dino is not strictly speaking a Ferrari, so we'll let that one go...

I had a feeling that model would sneak in.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Its a blue Dino.

That fine. Its allowed. After all, they were originally called Dino's anyway, not Ferrari's.

Lovely, lovely, lovely though.

And I may be imagining it, but was'nt there a Miura which had a lift off roof? Maybe a design study?

Thom

1,716 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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toppstuff said:
And I may be imagining it, but was'nt there a Miura which had a lift off roof? Maybe a design study?


They even prepared a Miura roadster for race duties, but it did not ... well errr do very well.

vario-rob

3,034 posts

249 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Back from the evening feed, it would appear that you’ve already beaten me to the next twist I’ve been concocting

Firstly though the Montreal! Another from the greatly ‘misunderstood’ camp. Without Googling or going to the book case, these were powered by an engine that first saw service in an F1 car and/or the sports car program. They are to the best of my recollection enormously temperamental engines and the nice people at Veloce Sport currently have one ‘free to a loving home’

The 4 year old Vario was shuttled around by Vario senior in of one of these which starts to explain a few things.



What’s more I visited my godfather today who has one of these little gems sat under a dust sheet in a stable, yes chaps I know, sacrilege.



However time to bring the big guns out, not strictly legitimate as it’s not Italian but what can one say when confronted with one of these



Come on then, just how good does a Monteverdi Hai look?

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Ahhh. The Fulvia Zagato.



Nice badge too !

The Fulvia of course has a V4 engine, which is rather a novelty.

I had a freind who had one of these in the early 80's. Although I begged him not to do it, he had one of those horrible early 80's aftermarket glass sunroofs put into it.
Imagine, having some oik taking the tin snips to Zagato bodywork. Sacrilige.

A lovely car though, and a very distinctive engine note.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Another favourite. And these are really appreciating in value these days.

The Alfa Giulia SS




Consider that when this came out in 1964, we were making the Triumph Herald. The Italian styling must have seemed outrageous then. Its still pretty far - out now !

vario-rob

3,034 posts

249 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Interesting how some of the more vociferous PH posters seem to have left this thread well alone bearing in mind it’s actually about proper cars.

So for those who like the first Monteverdi how about a pair!



Topstuff, on the old ‘undervalued, scarce and on the way up’ gist I noticed one of these mentioned elsewhere and think that despite the hammering they took from the media in general they are one of the loveliest looking cars made since the late 70’s.





Quite agree with the Alfa giulia SS, they don’t make them like that anymore. Actually they do, I rather liked the V6 GT I drove last week, the antithesis of TT-ness really

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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A lancia Gamma !

Good lord, they must be rare ! Most of them seemed to have been made from low grade steel and so they simply disintegrated over time.

Did'nt the Gamma have a huge 4 cylinder engine?

Talking further of overlooked lovelies:




Is'nt the Fiat Dino the most beautiful car? At the time it was seen as a poor mans Ferrari. Nonsense, that car has style and class of its own, as well its very own Dino engine..

Not expensive either.

God these Italians are gorgeous !!!!

yertis

18,072 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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My art teacher at school drove one of these, my wife's best friend owns one (or rather, owns a pile of rust that used to be one ) and my co director owned a succession before they too succumbed to tin-worm...


but soooo cool.

yertis

18,072 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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Topstuff that Dino is... beyond mere words.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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yertis said:
Topstuff that Dino is... beyond mere words.


Yup.

I think its my favourite photo on this thread so far ( after the Miura that kicked it off) ...

The Fiat Dino is Soooo overlooked. The Spyder is about £25k i think, while a coupe can be had for well under £10k.

Tempting.

This one in France is only 8000 euros..



The engine alone must be worth that !

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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yertis said:


My art teacher at school drove one of these, my wife's best friend owns one (or rather, owns a pile of rust that used to be one ) and my co director owned a succession before they too succumbed to tin-worm...


but soooo cool.



I love the bonnet stripe...

So the new dancing donkey CS is simply copying the style of the 60's....

vario-rob

3,034 posts

249 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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The Fiat Dino really does have it all, looks, performance, pedigree and a coupe can be yours for the price of a Porsche 944, Why haven’t I already got one? Quick get comfort food from fridge.

The Gamma was an ultimate motoring travesty that only the Italians could have served up. Like the Beta it was doomed to Russian Steel and BL levels of quality control that made them go off like an Alka-Seltzer when exposed to water. Powered by a 2.5 flat 4 if I recall correctly.

How about this glimpse of motoring pornography from the De Tomaso stable, yes folks the De Tomaso-Innocenti-Mini!



Bet you didn't see that one coming!!!!

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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vario-rob said:
The Fiat Dino really does have it all, looks, performance, pedigree and a coupe can be yours for the price of a Porsche 944, Why haven’t I already got one?



I am wondering exactly the same thing. I really want a Fiat Dino now ! Its an urge, like sex and eating.

And I did not see an Innocenti Mini coming though !.

Nice one. Am I correct in thinking that it was in one of these that Frank Williams had his life changing accident?

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Thursday 12th August 2004
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The first car that I bought with my own money and really, truly loved.




Alfasud Sprint.

I owned a red 76 model. I could barely fit in it. But I loved it. It was the model that was out just before they put plastic bumpers on it and started bringing out cloverleaf versions...

The original was the best. They must have all gone by now...