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Robert W

544 posts

162 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Me too! I took the train to Victoria and walked via Eaton Square garage up to Hyde Park Corner (where Taylor and Crawley were), then along past Harrods to South Ken and HROwen, Coys, CAR Howard, Gregor Fisken and Nick Mee at one point. There always Mews garages open with cars in them - I remember one 3 car garage with a Dino and a red Jersey registered 250 California in it. Then I’d take the tube to Parsons Green for Heathmans and two or three other dealers in the same unmade road with a BMW dealership on the end. Then down to Kimber Road, but it was a long walk from Southfields Tube. I did this many many time at weekends and in the school holidays, always with a camera. Oh no ... I may have to post some photos for you all... there were always dealers opening and closing - anyone remember very short lived Dunhills? Under the arches in IIRV Black Prince Road. I’ll have to dig out some photos and post them as a trip down memory lane!

Edited by Robert W on Saturday 13th March 11:55

Shnozz

27,484 posts

271 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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I don’t know why but to my mind it was far cooler seeing these exotics at dealerships where they were crammed in an oily garage rather than plush carpets, posh coffee and lakes in the grounds.

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Robert W said:
Me too! I took the train to Victoria and walked via Eaton Square garage up to Hyde Park Corner (where Taylor and Crawley were), then along past Harrods to South Ken and HROwen, Coys, CAR Howard, Gregor Fisken and Nick Mee at one point. There always Mews garages open with cars in them - I remember one 3 car garage with a Dino and a red Jersey registered 250 California in it. Then I’d take the tube to Parsons Green for Heathmans and two or three other dealers in the same unmade road with a BMW dealership on the end. Then down to Kimber Road, but it was a long walk from Southfields Tube. I did this many many time at weekends and in the school holidays, always with a camera. Oh no ... I may have to post some photos for you all... there were always dealers opening and closing - anyone remember very short lived Dunhills? Under the arches in IIRV Black Prince Road. I’ll have to dig out some photos and post them as a trip down memory lane!

Edited by Robert W on Saturday 13th March 11:55
That would be great Robert, love to see them, Remember walking past Dan Margulies mews garage with the doors wide open , image that in

today's high security world , couldn't help myself and had a nosy around , pre war road and racing Alfa's. Maserati's ,Speed model Bentley's

Worth thousands then certainly millions now, really nice guy gave me information on the cars without me even asking him, don't know if it was

Dan or not, My friend who lived locally to the mews knew him said he retired to Spain , He remembers him taking a 250 F Maserati out of the

mews into Cromwell Road and doing a loop round the block , said he could hear it echoing of the building half a mile away, couldn't imagine

doing that in today's traffic and with big brother breathing down our necks.
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cgt2

7,101 posts

188 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Yes please would love to see them, many great memories!

Martin350

3,775 posts

195 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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If we don't mind going slightly off topic, I'd also like to see people's photos from dealerships from that era.

I only visited Heathman's once and I have some (rubbish) photos...





I'm sure I've got a few more, I'll try and find them.

And to keep it on topic, earlier that same day I had also paid a visit to 108 George Street when they had the legendary pink Countach in the front window.




Wheel_Turned_Out

574 posts

38 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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Martin350 said:
And to keep it on topic, earlier that same day I had also paid a visit to 108 George Street when they had the legendary pink Countach in the front window.



I know they probably looked at him sideways when he specced that pink/grey with the blue interior, but I think he was vindicated - what a great looking colour scheme that was.

Martin350

3,775 posts

195 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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I'm sure it raised a few eyebrows at the factory! laugh And it certainly stood out!

No offence to the current owner, if they're on here, but I think it's quite a shame that the car is now white!

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Martin350 said:
I'm sure it raised a few eyebrows at the factory! laugh And it certainly stood out!

No offence to the current owner, if they're on here, but I think it's quite a shame that the car is now white!
Must agree ,i loved that car in pink ,not so keen on the silver bits ,For some reason i seem to remember it wearing V12

Jaguar badges, but could be wrong on that.
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It was "Wheelhouse in Nottingham that painted it white and believe it now lives in Australia ,

Remember passing there when on my way home from a trip to the north and saw it in their showroom.

Anyone remember the Duluxe flesh coloured 5000S with it's colour coded wheels reg no ELN238Y, that got painted black

with black wheels by Modena Lamborghini in High Wycombe , Read somewhere that's also in Australia.

Although both are a little Marmite it would be nice to see them both back in their original unique colours.


Robert W

544 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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rat rod said:
Martin350 said:
I'm sure it raised a few eyebrows at the factory! laugh And it certainly stood out!

No offence to the current owner, if they're on here, but I think it's quite a shame that the car is now white!
Must agree ,i loved that car in pink ,not so keen on the silver bits ,For some reason i seem to remember it wearing V12

Jaguar badges, but could be wrong on that.
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It was "Wheelhouse in Nottingham that painted it white and believe it now lives in Australia ,

Remember passing there when on my way home from a trip to the north and saw it in their showroom.

Anyone remember the Duluxe flesh coloured 5000S with it's colour coded wheels reg no ELN238Y, that got painted black

with black wheels by Modena Lamborghini in High Wycombe , Read somewhere that's also in Australia.

Although both are a little Marmite it would be nice to see them both back in their original unique colours.
Hi

ELN238Y is indeed in Australia, it looks black, but is in fact navy blue and retains the original "tabacco" interior. The colour was called "avorio rosa" - literally "ivory pink", but sand, beige, flesh-coloured, apricot - not the most flattering colour to describe, but looked good back in the day at the LCUK events

The pink-now-white car was sold by Ton Hartley (not Junior) a few weeks ago to a new owner. I'm hoping they return it to pink as well! I read somewhere that the silver bits were added by Geoff White the owner using a can of Halfords spray paint!


Robert W

544 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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I'll try to stay as on-topic as I can during this trip down memory lane....

HEATHMANS: Heathmans Road, off Parsons Green/Parsons Green Lane, London - right next to Parson's Green tube

This unmade muddy road had a series of warehouses along it. Heathmans was run by Barry Martina, and was one of the three main Italian Exotic car dealers in London in the 1980s. Lots of Countachs, all sort of Lambos, Panteras, Miuras, Maseratis - amazing adverts in the car magazines with multiple Miuras Countachs etc

A Heathmans advert:



In Heathmans Road (not my photo)



A couple of photos through the window:





Some of the metal in the showroom:





And a couple of cars off to new owners: [I never have tracked down the identity of this RHD beige Espada]



Robert W

544 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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PORTMAN Lamborghini
108 George Street, in central London - just off Portman Square. UK Lamborghini concessionaire from the 1970s for Countach LP400 etc all the way up to Diablos in the 1990s before going out of business.
Portman also had a service centre in Brentford.

The "showroom" in London looked like this outside - it was literally a shop front:



Inside was completely crammed - four cars together in a square with a fifth at the back was the maximum:





There was a back door out of the showroom into a private car park, where there tended to be a few more cars:


Robert W

544 posts

162 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Straight 8 was on Goldhawk Road in London - they had far more space than many other Central London dealers and certainly shifted some amazing cars. It was run by DD, who now runs DDClassics.






cgt2

7,101 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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That's Fred Paul cleaning the black Countach. Absolutely lovely guy and gorgeous daughter Michelle too!

rat rod

4,997 posts

65 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Robert W said:
Hi

ELN238Y is indeed in Australia, it looks black, but is in fact navy blue and retains the original "tabacco" interior. The colour was called "avorio rosa" - literally "ivory pink", but sand, beige, flesh-coloured, apricot - not the most flattering colour to describe, but looked good back in the day at the LCUK events

The pink-now-white car was sold by Ton Hartley (not Junior) a few weeks ago to a new owner. I'm hoping they return it to pink as well! I read somewhere that the silver bits were added by Geoff White the owner using a can of Halfords spray paint!
I saw the white Countach advertised by Tom Hartley but didn't realize it was the original pink car, does that mean it never went to Australia

or got repatriated,


So the story reference ELN238Y i got years ago about the original owner going into a hard ware store with the Dulux colour chart is just that

,a story and the colour is a official Lamborghini colour, Live and learn, I was also told that he sold his house and lived in a caravan to enable

him to buy it in the first place , Heard this from the man at John Woodfields Emblem Sports Cars in Blamford where it was stored in winter

months .

Only with a Lamborghini do you get these sort of stories especially from this period., Probably told everybody the same .

Thought it was painted black being such a dark blue but i never saw the car in the

flesh( no pun intended ) after it was colour changed only from photo's, often wondered what colour would have gone with the

tabacco interior if the paintwork was changed.

Didn't think the black wheels did it any favours when it was colour changed, fashionable now on the modern cars but not on a Countach.

Spoke to the guy who owned it when he advertised it for £29K in the Sunday Times who told me that the car had survived his divorce and he

sometimes didn't have the money to put petrol in it, and when he left it at Mikes to be worked on he would tell him to stop when he had

reached the amount he had saved up. Remember him telling me he really wanted the buyer to keep it in the original

colour as was his passion for the car.

Thanks for posting the photo's, As cgt2 said good memories.







Edited by rat rod on Sunday 14th March 12:06

JuniorD

8,627 posts

223 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Anyone remember the Garage on the Green? I went there for a look around when I was in London for an interview with BA in the late 90s. They let me have a sit in a Birdcage Maserati racing car which was cool. They had a Mugen NSX with fancy teledial style wheels. I’ve never heard of one of the these since.

cgt2

7,101 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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JuniorD said:
Anyone remember the Garage on the Green? I went there for a look around when I was in London for an interview with BA in the late 90s. They let me have a sit in a Birdcage Maserati racing car which was cool. They had a Mugen NSX with fancy teledial style wheels. I’ve never heard of one of the these since.
Yes they folded about 15 years ago, people had mixed experiences with them. I believe they had the ex Honda UK Mugen NSX which was imported by Honda Chiswick to evaluate whether to sell them in the UK, it was decided they didn't have the market for them here.

I owned an original NSX which I had serviced at Power Road and at the time they were quite unloved, so not surprising the Mugen did not come out here. That car however was registered in the UK and I think GOTG were trying to sell it for awhile.

Martin350

3,775 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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rat rod said:
Anyone remember the Duluxe flesh coloured 5000S with it's colour coded wheels reg no ELN238Y, that got painted black
I saw that car at Castle Combe on one of those 'Supercar Test Days', September 1989.
It was the first Lamborghini I ever sat in, which absolutely made my day! smile
That was when the owner told me that he'd taken a Dulux brochure to Lamborghini and had the car painted to match his garage door! laugh

The car was for sale at the time for £135k.







Edited by Martin350 on Sunday 14th March 14:41

sparta6

3,698 posts

100 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Martin350 said:
rat rod said:
Anyone remember the Duluxe flesh coloured 5000S with it's colour coded wheels reg no ELN238Y, that got painted black
I saw that car at Castle Combe on one of those 'Supercar Test Days'.
It was the first Lamborghini I ever sat in, which absolutely made my day! smile
That was when the owner told me that he'd taken a Dulux brochure to Lamborghini and had the car painted to match his garage door! laugh

The car was for sale at the time for £135k.



biggrin

Presumably more cost effective than repainting his garage door.


Martin350

3,775 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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Robert W said:
I wonder if this is the same car.
My photo was taken in April 1989.


Martin350

3,775 posts

195 months

Sunday 14th March 2021
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I can't remember if I've posted this car before but I've never seen another in this colur.
Light metallic green with dark red interior.
September 1988.