Option to buy a Countach

Option to buy a Countach

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Bob-iylho

Original Poster:

695 posts

106 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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A friend is considering parting with his Countach, owned since early 90's. Great condition.
He'd give me first dibs on it.
He'd want market value, no favours which is understandable. How do you think the market for these will go. I'm not looking for a profit but don't want to buy and find in ten years time it's a generation car and no one wants them anymore and end up £100k+ down

andrew

9,970 posts

192 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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old gent remembers fondly how back in 2022 he turned the chance to own a countach as he was worried about the possible depreciation smile

browngt3

1,411 posts

211 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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First dibs on a Countach in great condition owned by the same person for30 years... What are you waiting for?

Desert Dragon

1,445 posts

84 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Buy.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Pm me the owners details ive got cash waiting if you haven't

Bob-iylho

Original Poster:

695 posts

106 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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cool thanks guys, he doesn't want to part with it yet, he's an old rocker and still got the itch but likely to sell in next few years

Robert W

544 posts

162 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Which model of countach, RHD or LHD and is it in the UK? What colour also? All make a big difference to value.

Bob-iylho

Original Poster:

695 posts

106 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Robert W said:
Which model of countach, RHD or LHD and is it in the UK? What colour also? All make a big difference to value.
I am aware of all the above, I know it's value as does the owner.
I think my question has been answered.
Obviously if it ends up in my ownership then I shall be eager to post here.

Paft Dunk

298 posts

258 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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All a bit of a moot point if you can’t buy it for two years. Not really for sale yet, is it !?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Paft Dunk said:
All a bit of a moot point if you can’t buy it for two years. Not really for sale yet, is it !?
Yeah bizarre question rolleyes

Bob-iylho

Original Poster:

695 posts

106 months

Saturday 19th February 2022
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Don't quite get the eye rolling or bizarreness but anyway as I said, thanks for replies.
Sorry if I have confused people, put simply, I have first dibs but it's up to current owner when that is.
I'm happy to wait as we are mates, so no point in hassling him into selling.

Edited by Bob-iylho on Saturday 19th February 19:50

xcentric

722 posts

219 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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To put the other perspective, the slightly older person that might inhabit these forums probably had a poster of this car on their wall, and so it's desirable. All the time those people are driving and have money, it's a high value car. It's less clear to me what happens when those people pass on and those with 205GTi's and 458's on their walls are left looking at possibly buying it off you. It may not be so desirable to them.

Having said that, it's not like it's a 205GTi - i.e. potentially affordable for some - it's a halo car and always will be, and its exclusivity will always count for something. For e.g. I'd like a Dino, but that was around before I had posters on my walls. Or even a Citroen Avant, but now we're getting off topic.

The thing is, it's hard to tell. Many teenagers these days are putting off taking driving tests as they can't see the point. Many find escape in the Xbox and so don't need the freedom of the open road. Others are more aware of environmental issues and don't feel it right to be in such a car - and so when you come to sell, these may all impact the price.

Me - I think it's always likely to find a passionate buyer, as it's rare, wacky, and a triumph and icon of the time. And I'd have great fun and pleasure in owning it regardless. But I couldn't afford the 205GTi, so maybe I'm not quite the right person to comment.....

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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xcentric said:
To put the other perspective, the slightly older person that might inhabit these forums probably had a poster of this car on their wall, and so it's desirable. All the time those people are driving and have money, it's a high value car. It's less clear to me what happens when those people pass on and those with 205GTi's and 458's on their walls are left looking at possibly buying it off you. It may not be so desirable to them.

Having said that, it's not like it's a 205GTi - i.e. potentially affordable for some - it's a halo car and always will be, and its exclusivity will always count for something. For e.g. I'd like a Dino, but that was around before I had posters on my walls. Or even a Citroen Avant, but now we're getting off topic.

The thing is, it's hard to tell. Many teenagers these days are putting off taking driving tests as they can't see the point. Many find escape in the Xbox and so don't need the freedom of the open road. Others are more aware of environmental issues and don't feel it right to be in such a car - and so when you come to sell, these may all impact the price.

Me - I think it's always likely to find a passionate buyer, as it's rare, wacky, and a triumph and icon of the time. And I'd have great fun and pleasure in owning it regardless. But I couldn't afford the 205GTi, so maybe I'm not quite the right person to comment.....
Numbers matter too.
Look how many Countaches were made compared to sports car production these days.
Look at the value of some pre WW2 cars.
The people who coveted them originally are long gone but they remain evocative, fun and rare. Enough people want them to sustain sometimes enormous prices.

zedmtrappe

246 posts

96 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Good interesting points !

What's the market like for 1920's vintage Rolls & Bentleys compared to where it was 30 years ago I wonder ?


anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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By the time the owner decides to sell it to the OP nostalgia would also be dead and buried like most of us

Bob-iylho

Original Poster:

695 posts

106 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Curledge said:
By the time the owner decides to sell it to the OP nostalgia would also be dead and buried like most of us
You seem to know more than me, you seem upset with my post, which is beyond me. Does it really matter whether he decides to part with it tomorrow or in 2023 /24. Surely it affects you less than me, yet you seem more bothered than me?

I think I'll leave you to stew, thank you for the responses. I'm out now.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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zedmtrappe said:
Good interesting points !

What's the market like for 1920's vintage Rolls & Bentleys compared to where it was 30 years ago I wonder ?
My 22 year old son would love an old blower Bentley above any other car.

r o n n i e

365 posts

176 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Ferruccio said:


Numbers matter too.
Look how many Countaches were made compared to sports car production these days.
Look at the value of some pre WW2 cars.
The people who coveted them originally are long gone but they remain evocative, fun and rare. Enough people want them to sustain sometimes enormous prices.
Spot on - agree completely.

Countach is such an iconic car and with the limited numbers will be shielded from future cultural changes.

Countach will always be highly desirable.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

119 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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Curledge said:
Pm me the owners details ive got cash waiting if you haven't
Great.
What’d you give for an immaculate RHD 5000s, 1984, 46,000 km?
If we can agree a price, I can deliver tomorrow once money received.


footsoldier

2,258 posts

192 months

Sunday 20th February 2022
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xcentric said:
To put the other perspective, the slightly older person that might inhabit these forums probably had a poster of this car on their wall, and so it's desirable. All the time those people are driving and have money, it's a high value car. It's less clear to me what happens when those people pass on and those with 205GTi's and 458's on their walls are left looking at possibly buying it off you. It may not be so desirable to them.

Having said that, it's not like it's a 205GTi - i.e. potentially affordable for some - it's a halo car and always will be, and its exclusivity will always count for something. For e.g. I'd like a Dino, but that was around before I had posters on my walls. Or even a Citroen Avant, but now we're getting off topic.

The thing is, it's hard to tell. Many teenagers these days are putting off taking driving tests as they can't see the point. Many find escape in the Xbox and so don't need the freedom of the open road. Others are more aware of environmental issues and don't feel it right to be in such a car - and so when you come to sell, these may all impact the price.

Me - I think it's always likely to find a passionate buyer, as it's rare, wacky, and a triumph and icon of the time. And I'd have great fun and pleasure in owning it regardless. But I couldn't afford the 205GTi, so maybe I'm not quite the right person to comment.....
Agree on the environmental aspects, and cars are deliberately being made harder to use by governments, councils etc.
Having said that, I had a Countach on my wall 35 years ago, and drove a 205Gti 25 years ago, (maybe still my favourite car, all things considered).
Now I have a Countach in the garage (8yrs), and think it is undervalued and 205 GTis are overpriced!

PS - My car is 1980 and is ULEZ, Tax and MOT exempt...


Edited by footsoldier on Sunday 20th February 14:24