Well here it is - the 720S
Discussion
monaco1981 said:
Thanks for the informed responses. It is a bit of a heart vs head decision then. I want the 720s but know the 488 is the safer bet and gets me the 812 super fast (sorry!).
The 488 is probably a safer bet if you buy a used one at 10-15% under list. Any used 720S's will almost certainly be well over list, and a new one is 15+months away!! Do your research!stoatage17 said:
monaco1981 said:
Thanks for the informed responses. It is a bit of a heart vs head decision then. I want the 720s but know the 488 is the safer bet and gets me the 812 super fast (sorry!).
The 488 is probably a safer bet if you buy a used one at 10-15% under list. Any used 720S's will almost certainly be well over list, and a new one is 15+months away!! Do your research!Having said that - life is short and if you want a 720 (which I fully understand as the 488 holds no real appeal for me - maybe the 488 VS once it arrives), you should get that. If you have to wait for 15 months for it, then that might not be as appealing though.
How about a used 458/FF or F12 off the lot from your dealer to bridge the gap?
MDL111 said:
stoatage17 said:
monaco1981 said:
Thanks for the informed responses. It is a bit of a heart vs head decision then. I want the 720s but know the 488 is the safer bet and gets me the 812 super fast (sorry!).
The 488 is probably a safer bet if you buy a used one at 10-15% under list. Any used 720S's will almost certainly be well over list, and a new one is 15+months away!! Do your research!Having said that - life is short and if you want a 720 (which I fully understand as the 488 holds no real appeal for me - maybe the 488 VS once it arrives), you should get that. If you have to wait for 15 months for it, then that might not be as appealing though.
How about a used 458/FF or F12 off the lot from your dealer to bridge the gap?
One thing to bear in mind re future Ferrari values is that, as a public company, they are going to have to produce and sell many more cars per annum than they have done in the past.
monaco1981 said:
I have my name down for an 812 but being told 2020.
If i were to get something before then at around 240k, what do people think I should go for that will give me two years of fun motoring but not destroy me residual wise come change to the 812? One of these comes to around 240k for the spec I want or the other options are:
Ferrari 488 (12 months wait)
Lambo Performante (similar or less)
Keen on the 720s but not sure how they will hold in a couple of years. Thoughts?
Everyone says I'm biased towards McLaren but of those 3 I would say the Lamborghini Performante as its a special edition, far better than the standard car and normally aspirated. I don't think it will suffer anywhere near as bad as Gallardo Superleggera as its a big step up in technology and the Huracan is not so long in the tooth as the Gallardo model that spanned 10 years and was beginning to show its age towards the end.If i were to get something before then at around 240k, what do people think I should go for that will give me two years of fun motoring but not destroy me residual wise come change to the 812? One of these comes to around 240k for the spec I want or the other options are:
Ferrari 488 (12 months wait)
Lambo Performante (similar or less)
Keen on the 720s but not sure how they will hold in a couple of years. Thoughts?
There you go, shock horror, McLaren and Ferrari owner recommends the Lamborghini
stoatage17 said:
The 488 is probably a safer bet if you buy a used one at 10-15% under list. Any used 720S's will almost certainly be well over list, and a new one is 15+months away!! Do your research!
Not considered used TBF. I was talking about new here in all circumstances, if 720s now 15 months then would still arrive in 2018, Giving me 18 months of ownership before 812. To get the 488 VS I have been told I need to buy a 488, special and a California to stand a chance of a sniff of getting an allocation, which I obviously am not going to do.
monaco1981 said:
Not considered used TBF. I was talking about new here in all circumstances, if 720s now 15 months then would still arrive in 2018, Giving me 18 months of ownership before 812.
To get the 488 VS I have been told I need to buy a 488, special and a California to stand a chance of a sniff of getting an allocation, which I obviously am not going to do.
Yeah please ignore the people telling you that buying a 488 (i.e. ONLY a single 488) is going to help you get your 812 allocation sooner or get you a limited edition car. They're just plain wrong as they have people lined up all day long who want the privilege of buying a 488 at MSRP and probably some of their best customers have ordered the 812 and are waiting patiently ahead of you. To get the 488 VS I have been told I need to buy a 488, special and a California to stand a chance of a sniff of getting an allocation, which I obviously am not going to do.
I've played that game and your dealer is correct. What you have to buy is a GTC4 Lusso or California (i.e. one of their lower-demand cars that depreciates like a regular car or worse) to get any special consideration. Ferrari still requires them to sell those cars to get allocations for the more-desirable ones so they use them as bait in deals like these. I bought an FF so I could skip way ahead on my 458 Spider allocation and that worked like a charm. I loved the FF and kept it longer than the 458 Spider but I still took a huge depreciation hit when I finally traded it for the new 2017 Panamera Turbo two months ago. It also required a US$41,000 repair which thankfully Ferrari picked up the $36,000 parts cost (the front transmission of the 4RM system failed after only 12,600 miles) leaving me with the labour cost of $5,000. I did the repair then decided it was time to sell the car.
MarkNC said:
monaco1981 said:
Not considered used TBF. I was talking about new here in all circumstances, if 720s now 15 months then would still arrive in 2018, Giving me 18 months of ownership before 812.
To get the 488 VS I have been told I need to buy a 488, special and a California to stand a chance of a sniff of getting an allocation, which I obviously am not going to do.
Yeah please ignore the people telling you that buying a 488 (i.e. ONLY a single 488) is going to help you get your 812 allocation sooner or get you a limited edition car. They're just plain wrong as they have people lined up all day long who want the privilege of buying a 488 at MSRP and probably some of their best customers have ordered the 812 and are waiting patiently ahead of you. To get the 488 VS I have been told I need to buy a 488, special and a California to stand a chance of a sniff of getting an allocation, which I obviously am not going to do.
I've played that game and your dealer is correct. What you have to buy is a GTC4 Lusso or California (i.e. one of their lower-demand cars that depreciates like a regular car or worse) to get any special consideration. Ferrari still requires them to sell those cars to get allocations for the more-desirable ones so they use them as bait in deals like these. I bought an FF so I could skip way ahead on my 458 Spider allocation and that worked like a charm. I loved the FF and kept it longer than the 458 Spider but I still took a huge depreciation hit when I finally traded it for the new 2017 Panamera Turbo two months ago. It also required a US$41,000 repair which thankfully Ferrari picked up the $36,000 parts cost (the front transmission of the 4RM system failed after only 12,600 miles) leaving me with the labour cost of $5,000. I did the repair then decided it was time to sell the car.
monaco1981 said:
Have decided to go for a 720s as being told a year (or potentially less) if order now. Lot of people waiting for the demos to drive and these are delayed (in some cases) so going to put the deposit down to get in the orderly queue. Us brits love an orderly queue.
Congratulations - I am jealous - would love a 720 - less than a year sounds goodI will test drive one once the demos are out and then take It from there .... would love a black one with the glass roof thingies, buckets, cage and harnesses and the lightweight rims
Have fun speccing yours
monaco1981 said:
Have decided to go for a 720s as being told a year (or potentially less) if order now. Lot of people waiting for the demos to drive and these are delayed (in some cases) so going to put the deposit down to get in the orderly queue. Us brits love an orderly queue.
When were you told you'd get delivery, did they give an expected month or just 2nd 1/4? I ordered mine four months ago with delivery 1st 1/4 2018.MDL111 said:
monaco1981 said:
Have decided to go for a 720s as being told a year (or potentially less) if order now. Lot of people waiting for the demos to drive and these are delayed (in some cases) so going to put the deposit down to get in the orderly queue. Us brits love an orderly queue.
Congratulations - I am jealous - would love a 720 - less than a year sounds goodI will test drive one once the demos are out and then take It from there .... would love a black one with the glass roof thingies, buckets, cage and harnesses and the lightweight rims
Have fun speccing yours
I have a first world problem with the spec.
I love an unusual colour and I think the MSO Fistral Blue is just gorgeous. However, I will spin the coupe for the convertible as soon as it becomes available and I don't want to change cars and keep the same colour.
Thinking I might go Volcano Yellow for the coupe (it's LOUD!!) and then go Fistral Blue for the convertible.
This is keeping me awake at night!
foxsasha said:
monaco1981 said:
Have decided to go for a 720s as being told a year (or potentially less) if order now. Lot of people waiting for the demos to drive and these are delayed (in some cases) so going to put the deposit down to get in the orderly queue. Us brits love an orderly queue.
When were you told you'd get delivery, did they give an expected month or just 2nd 1/4? I ordered mine four months ago with delivery 1st 1/4 2018.
i have more or less that exact spec in mind.
monaco1981 said:
Went to ascot today to look at colours, probably going to go for memphis red or Aurora blue, definitely with performance pack and glass roof etc. Wanted cobalt violet (special paint on 570s) but it would be 8k MSO on the 720s which sounds a bit daft.
£8k on a £250k+ car for the colour you really want, doesn't sound daft to me......Sarnie said:
monaco1981 said:
Went to ascot today to look at colours, probably going to go for memphis red or Aurora blue, definitely with performance pack and glass roof etc. Wanted cobalt violet (special paint on 570s) but it would be 8k MSO on the 720s which sounds a bit daft.
£8k on a £250k+ car for the colour you really want, doesn't sound daft to me......The cost that most supercar manufacturers charge for so called special paint is a blatant rip off but punters still cough up. And as much as I would resent it I would probably cough up too to get the colour I wanted.
Having painted a number of cars in my time I know the real cost of these things and time needed to paint them. Factor in the cost of probably having to have the car paint corrected by someone after you get your car if you really want a decent finish and the cost starts to look even more daft.
Another top tip if you are looking for value for money, Alcantara costs a fraction of leather. Car makers are likely to charge you at least the same of more than leather in some circumstances so it’s a great money making scheme for them, don’t be fooled
Having painted a number of cars in my time I know the real cost of these things and time needed to paint them. Factor in the cost of probably having to have the car paint corrected by someone after you get your car if you really want a decent finish and the cost starts to look even more daft.
Another top tip if you are looking for value for money, Alcantara costs a fraction of leather. Car makers are likely to charge you at least the same of more than leather in some circumstances so it’s a great money making scheme for them, don’t be fooled
Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Sarnie said:
£8k on a £250k+ car for the colour you really want, doesn't sound daft to me......
Seems a 'little daft' - the car is not having anything different to a stock on. Same prep, same spray but just a couple of pots of paint different. Not much paint costs eight grand - actually, no, the existing paint by the same virtue is also not needed. This would put the material cost of paints at what ?
Barking made.
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