720S Should I or shouldn't I?
Discussion
PantsFire said:
Was looking at some Ferrari's the other day, sales guy was saying a customer was looking at a 488 but went with a 720s after a 40k discount.
I guess one way to handle depreciation is to arrange it so the customer can sell it for 40k under list and still break even.
As others have said McLaren have a serious problem with depreciation, I would not like to own a base 570s or 720s when the newest LT's are announced.
However, at some point these cars are going to arrive at a 'too cheap to say no'.
Always amazes me how some folks never get the discounting thing. If a car is discounted it's done for a reason I.e. it is too expensive.I guess one way to handle depreciation is to arrange it so the customer can sell it for 40k under list and still break even.
As others have said McLaren have a serious problem with depreciation, I would not like to own a base 570s or 720s when the newest LT's are announced.
However, at some point these cars are going to arrive at a 'too cheap to say no'.
Discounted cars continue to depreciate far more than non discounted ones as a rule. Apply at all levels..... from mainstream stuff to supercars.
The cheapest cars are invariably those that aren't discounted.
av185 said:
Always amazes me how some folks never get the discounting thing. If a car is discounted it's done for a reason I.e. it is too expensive.
Discounted cars continue to depreciate far more than non discounted ones as a rule. Apply at all levels..... from mainstream stuff to supercars.
The cheapest cars are invariably those that aren't discounted.
History says differently. Great drivers cars are the ones that the market sees rise in value, and many of these were availlable discounted when new.Discounted cars continue to depreciate far more than non discounted ones as a rule. Apply at all levels..... from mainstream stuff to supercars.
The cheapest cars are invariably those that aren't discounted.
rs200evo said:
av185 said:
Always amazes me how some folks never get the discounting thing. If a car is discounted it's done for a reason I.e. it is too expensive.
Discounted cars continue to depreciate far more than non discounted ones as a rule. Apply at all levels..... from mainstream stuff to supercars.
The cheapest cars are invariably those that aren't discounted.
History says differently. Great drivers cars are the ones that the market sees rise in value, and many of these were availlable discounted when new.Discounted cars continue to depreciate far more than non discounted ones as a rule. Apply at all levels..... from mainstream stuff to supercars.
The cheapest cars are invariably those that aren't discounted.
Two examples......Carrera GT considered undervalued by many experts. Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
av185 said:
Great drivers cars/driver involvement are rarely linked with high prices.
Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
Just out of interest, many miles have you done in Aventadors?Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
Ferruccio said:
av185 said:
Great drivers cars/driver involvement are rarely linked with high prices.
Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
Just out of interest, many miles have you done in Aventadors?Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
av185 said:
Great drivers cars/driver involvement are rarely linked with high prices.
Two examples......Carrera GT considered undervalued by many experts. Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
f430 scuds were heavily discounted at one pointTwo examples......Carrera GT considered undervalued by many experts. Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
Beefmeister said:
Ferruccio said:
av185 said:
Great drivers cars/driver involvement are rarely linked with high prices.
Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
Just out of interest, many miles have you done in Aventadors?Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
And the AV is the best looking car by a mile
I have done about a thousand miles in them in total, and they really aren't great. Too wide, awful visibility, crashy ride and a terrible gearbox. The engine and looks are the only things going for it, IMO a 720S beats it in every respect. Hell, I'd rather a Huracan Performante than an Aventador.
Beefmeister said:
Ferruccio said:
av185 said:
Great drivers cars/driver involvement are rarely linked with high prices.
Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
Just out of interest, many miles have you done in Aventadors?Lamborghini Aventador is a joke from a driving perspective and yet values remain relatively high.
Other factors have a greater bearing on value.
The stock Aventador is faster round the Ring than the F12, Huracan, and 12C.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
Yipper said:
The stock Aventador is faster round the Ring than the F12, Huracan, and 12C.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
Beefmeister said:
Yipper said:
The stock Aventador is faster round the Ring than the F12, Huracan, and 12C.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
Yipper said:
The stock Aventador is faster round the Ring than the F12, Huracan, and 12C.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
The new S version is much improved with rear wheel steer and adjustable suspension. Gearbox remains. Still nothing touches it for road presence. The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
garyhun said:
Beefmeister said:
Yipper said:
The stock Aventador is faster round the Ring than the F12, Huracan, and 12C.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
The Aventador SV, of course, is faster round the Ring than all McLaren road cars ever made in history.
The Aventador is a fast car, but it needs a skilled driver. And some everyday folk may struggle to drive it properly.
MDL111 said:
Don't see how what he posted there is all that bad - seems a fair assessment - I (and many others I wager) certainly could not drive an Aventador at the limit and it is without a doubt a fast car, no McLaren was faster than the SV (can't be bothered to check if the statement re F12 etc is accurate, but would not surprise me) - so ....
You're obviously unaware of Yips posting history!PantsFire said:
Was looking at some Ferrari's the other day, sales guy was saying a customer was looking at a 488 but went with a 720s after a 40k discount.
I guess one way to handle depreciation is to arrange it so the customer can sell it for 40k under list and still break even.
As others have said McLaren have a serious problem with depreciation, I would not like to own a base 570s or 720s when the newest LT's are announced.
However, at some point these cars are going to arrive at a 'too cheap to say no'.
That sounds like sour grapes to me from the Ferrari dealer. What dealer could afford a £40K discount on a car at this level assuming its a new carI guess one way to handle depreciation is to arrange it so the customer can sell it for 40k under list and still break even.
As others have said McLaren have a serious problem with depreciation, I would not like to own a base 570s or 720s when the newest LT's are announced.
However, at some point these cars are going to arrive at a 'too cheap to say no'.
garyhun said:
MDL111 said:
Don't see how what he posted there is all that bad - seems a fair assessment - I (and many others I wager) certainly could not drive an Aventador at the limit and it is without a doubt a fast car, no McLaren was faster than the SV (can't be bothered to check if the statement re F12 etc is accurate, but would not surprise me) - so ....
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