Give a ride to someone for charity?
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Hi everyone
A friend of mine who organises charity events asked me if I'd give a quick ride to someone as a prize for winning a raffle in her cancer charity. Just in the moment I said yes that would be fine, but now I'm wondering if that was such a good idea. What do you all think?!
Cheers,
Alex
A friend of mine who organises charity events asked me if I'd give a quick ride to someone as a prize for winning a raffle in her cancer charity. Just in the moment I said yes that would be fine, but now I'm wondering if that was such a good idea. What do you all think?!
Cheers,
Alex
Beni997 said:
Don’t see what the issue could possibly be if they are just a passenger.
In this kind of society where litigation is encouraged, you may be sued for anything from disappointment in your driving to a severe physiological condition resulting from the experience.Not likely, but possible...
This thread comes up about once per year. I can't really see that the doomsday scenarios will happen. Has it ever happened before where someone has done a charitable favour, one off, no money, no business arrangement and they've been sued or insurance pulled out after a prang? I just can't see it happening in a reasonable world/court.
I do this quite a bit. Prom season is particularly busy. I always insist on a donation to charity, preferably made directly so that I am not handling any monies even if only to pass on to charity.
Cannot see why this would invalidate Insurance. The car has two seats, thereby transporting a passenger seems perfectly reasonable and I am deriving no benefit from so doing.
What is the legal definition of “for hire or reward”?
Best
Paul
Cannot see why this would invalidate Insurance. The car has two seats, thereby transporting a passenger seems perfectly reasonable and I am deriving no benefit from so doing.
What is the legal definition of “for hire or reward”?
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Paul
Actually, I have just done a quick bit of research and according to DVLA the definition of Hire or Reward is this:
3.1 Payment for providing transport
The legal term for this is ‘hire or reward’. It’s any payment, in cash or kind, which gives a person the right to be carried on the vehicle, regardless of whether or not that right is exercised. Hire or reward takes place if the journey is organised in a way that goes beyond the bounds of mere social kindness.
The payment may be made by the passenger or on the passenger’s behalf. It may be a direct payment, eg a fare or an indirect payment such as a membership subscription. Where indirect payments are made in respect of other services (rather than specifically for the transport) they’re still likely to be viewed by the courts as hire or reward because anyone who hadn’t made the payment would have no right to be carried.
Therefore, from this it could be argued that even asking for Charitable donations constitutes Hire or Reward as it is not necessarily reward for your benefit in the eyes of the law.
Time to stop offering rides for charity, I think.
3.1 Payment for providing transport
The legal term for this is ‘hire or reward’. It’s any payment, in cash or kind, which gives a person the right to be carried on the vehicle, regardless of whether or not that right is exercised. Hire or reward takes place if the journey is organised in a way that goes beyond the bounds of mere social kindness.
The payment may be made by the passenger or on the passenger’s behalf. It may be a direct payment, eg a fare or an indirect payment such as a membership subscription. Where indirect payments are made in respect of other services (rather than specifically for the transport) they’re still likely to be viewed by the courts as hire or reward because anyone who hadn’t made the payment would have no right to be carried.
Therefore, from this it could be argued that even asking for Charitable donations constitutes Hire or Reward as it is not necessarily reward for your benefit in the eyes of the law.
Time to stop offering rides for charity, I think.
Superleg48 said:
Therefore, from this it could be argued that even asking for Charitable donations constitutes Hire or Reward as it is not necessarily reward for your benefit in the eyes of the law.
Time to stop offering rides for charity, I think.
But the owner of the car isn't asking for nor receiving Charitable donations, so I disagree your post is justification to stop offering rides for charity.Time to stop offering rides for charity, I think.
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