PZero or Corsa ?
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I couldn't find a good answer to this anywhere (well apart from to use Michelin's which are apparently slightly bigger and will rub the liners) so I thought I'd ask and see if anyone has any experience. I get the choice between PZeros and Corsa tyres on the 720S. Now both are supposed to be road tyres but the Corsa are more track orientated - so which one should I get ? Most of my driving will be in the UK (read not always hot and dry 
) and I suspect throughout the year but I will do, say, a couple of track days a year (which in my recent experience always seem to be damp or wet!). Is there much benefit to the Corsas on track ? If I'm driving on the road at < 10 Celcius am I better off with PZeros ? What about a wet road ? Currently I've got PZeros in mind as the best compromise but no data to back that up.....
) and I suspect throughout the year but I will do, say, a couple of track days a year (which in my recent experience always seem to be damp or wet!). Is there much benefit to the Corsas on track ? If I'm driving on the road at < 10 Celcius am I better off with PZeros ? What about a wet road ? Currently I've got PZeros in mind as the best compromise but no data to back that up.....Similar experience. Not on a Macca, but the bigger-profile Michelins (PSS) did also rub the wheel liners. Very irritating.
Switched to P Zero Corsa. No rubbing. And an epic tyre in the dry. Squats down on the road under heavy acceleration and feels "special". Go easy in the damp or rain.
Switched to P Zero Corsa. No rubbing. And an epic tyre in the dry. Squats down on the road under heavy acceleration and feels "special". Go easy in the damp or rain.
Have run both p-zero and corsa on sports series. Found p-zero to be better all year round tyre suited to UK weather, corsa feels great when up to working temp and dry road tho not good at other any other time inc. wet and / or colder conditions. Am surprised corsa is standard UK fit on some Mc's tbh. Many owners report Michelin PS4S are excellent all year tyre, much superior especially at lower temps, and Corsa not comparable to Mich (except in dry hot conditions and dry track I guess?). The Mich have more square shouldes vs Pirelli so rubbing can occur (some 12c and 650 owners reported rubbing especially on track) tho this can be easily solved with spacers I understand. Congrats on incoming
Had P Zero Corsa's direct from factory on my 650S but changed them to standard p zero's at 4,500 miles and TBH the car felt a lot better for it. and I felt more confident with them driving on normal British A and B roads
No track day work but on public roads in UK weather conditions my vote would go with the standard tyre.
I found the corsa's very twitchy in anything but warm dry weather
No track day work but on public roads in UK weather conditions my vote would go with the standard tyre.
I found the corsa's very twitchy in anything but warm dry weather
On the 720 it should be the new gen Pirelli tyre both zero and corsa so one would hope they would be a big improvement on the older gen of tyre where the corsa was worse than rubbish and suboptimal as the Pzero was I'd always pick that over the corsa. I'd personally be very tempted to try the new corsa, always easier (and cheaper typically) to switch back to the 'normal' road tyre option.
FWIW, the PS4S in theory has a slightly narrower tread width than the supersport or Cup2 and much closer to the Corsa so it should fit without damaging the liners. Plus one has to assume the 720 is running the 675 style rear tyre offset that is slightly extended vs the 650/12c where liner damage was a more significant issue.
FWIW, the PS4S in theory has a slightly narrower tread width than the supersport or Cup2 and much closer to the Corsa so it should fit without damaging the liners. Plus one has to assume the 720 is running the 675 style rear tyre offset that is slightly extended vs the 650/12c where liner damage was a more significant issue.
Good replies and differing views! It's a good point I should check out the price to change - if a PZero is much cheaper I'd be getting better value for money fitting the Corsas from new then swapping them out if I don't get on with them when they need changing. If someone in Scotland says they're fine all year round I'd may go with that to start off with!
Fair play to the guys who say corsa ok in the wet. I found them terrifying on 570 in wet and cold and hard to keep up to temp in normal driving unless 'on it', plus remember changing tyre setting in dash menu to corsa raises threshold of 'green tyre' dash light to 25 deg tyre temp, from around 18 deg (?) for normal p-zero. I reckon Mich PS4S best all round tyre, great if no rubbing or simple fix with spacers if not. OP, maybe once weather improves ask your supplying dealer for 720 demo seat time to assist tyre selection?
andyvdg said:
Good replies and differing views! It's a good point I should check out the price to change - if a PZero is much cheaper I'd be getting better value for money fitting the Corsas from new then swapping them out if I don't get on with them when they need changing. If someone in Scotland says they're fine all year round I'd may go with that to start off with!
I would recommend this, and rather than go for PZero as your second set you could even go with a more winter oriented tyre such as the Sotto Zero, so you have the best of both worlds. Like I said though, I've had no issues with the Corsa's even over winter, I find them a pretty mild 'track' tyre compared to say Cup 2's.Maybe PZeros are best to start off with. The car I drove was wearing them and I was happy (in the rain as well) so I was originally wondering whethe the Corsas provide significantly better traction on the road for getting the power down or are the benefits all on track cornering and resiliancy? I seem to remember reading the Corsas have stiffer sidewalls which will affect the compliance on the road. PZeros are probably the safer bet to learn the car - I can always change up later.
rs200evo said:
I would recommend this, and rather than go for PZero as your second set you could even go with a more winter oriented tyre such as the Sotto Zero, so you have the best of both worlds. Like I said though, I've had no issues with the Corsa's even over winter, I find them a pretty mild 'track' tyre compared to say Cup 2's.
Good thought! I have Sottos on the M5 and although they do get you around in bad weather they destroy the cornering handling (relatively). If the weather was bad enough I’d leave Mac at home. andyvdg said:
Maybe PZeros are best to start off with. The car I drove was wearing them and I was happy (in the rain as well) so I was originally wondering whethe the Corsas provide significantly better traction on the road for getting the power down or are the benefits all on track cornering and resiliancy? I seem to remember reading the Corsas have stiffer sidewalls which will affect the compliance on the road. PZeros are probably the safer bet to learn the car - I can always change up later.
imo the cars (well at least the 12c/650) are better cars with a tyre with a firmer sidewall as it gives the car a fair bit more driving 'feel'. a cup2/trofeo and bucket seats makes one of the P11 cars feel very different to one with standard seats and Pzeros, at least to me anyway.Gassing Station | McLaren | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff