Residuals, Man Maths and a 540C

Residuals, Man Maths and a 540C

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PompeyReece

991 posts

49 months

Monday 8th June
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EvoSid said:
I thought that was the case but I thought that was too obvious
So why is once a C series and the other a S series ?
There isn't a C series or an S series with McLaren - it's either a sports, super or ultimate series.

I think it's just a naming convention rather than to distinguish between classes of car.

EK993

1,778 posts

211 months

Monday 8th June
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EvoSid said:
I thought that was the case but I thought that was too obvious
So why is once a C series and the other a S series ?
No different to 911 Carrera and 911 Carrera S. Same model, different trim and specification.

MAC 720S

1,191 posts

107 months

Monday 8th June
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EvoSid said:
PompeyReece said:
Not much but main one is one is 540 BHP, the other 570 BHP. More details here:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I thought that was the case but I thought that was too obvious
So why is once a C series and the other a S series ?
I think the C denotes Comfort, and the S is Sport.. similar to how the 720S comes in Performance or Luxury trim levels, the latter usually having leather, but less exterior carbon.


Edited by MAC 720S on Monday 8th June 16:17

MOD500

2,662 posts

210 months

Monday 8th June
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The C stands for 'club' nerd

Lee Jones Jnr

570 posts

130 months

Monday 8th June
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EvoSid said:
Ask a silly question but is the main differences between a 540C and 570S ?
540 comes with steel brakes, less power and fewer carbon fibre body panels and black plastic trim instead of palladium grey.

davek_964

7,019 posts

135 months

Monday 8th June
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
540 comes with steel brakes, less power and fewer carbon fibre body panels and black plastic trim instead of palladium grey.
The 570 also has steel brakes. Only the super series - starting with the 650 - had ceramic as standard.
I didn't think there was a difference in body panels between 540 and 570 either - again, it's the super series that has carbon body panels isn't it?

Lee Jones Jnr

570 posts

130 months

Monday 8th June
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davek_964 said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
540 comes with steel brakes, less power and fewer carbon fibre body panels and black plastic trim instead of palladium grey.
The 570 also has steel brakes. Only the super series - starting with the 650 - had ceramic as standard.
I didn't think there was a difference in body panels between 540 and 570 either - again, it's the super series that has carbon body panels isn't it?
Nope, 570S has CC brakes, 570GT has steel.
I don’t know which body panels are different, I just recall reviews at launch listing the cost savings and body panels was one.

39sl

146 posts

84 months

Monday 8th June
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
davek_964 said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
540 comes with steel brakes, less power and fewer carbon fibre body panels and black plastic trim instead of palladium grey.
The 570 also has steel brakes. Only the super series - starting with the 650 - had ceramic as standard.
I didn't think there was a difference in body panels between 540 and 570 either - again, it's the super series that has carbon body panels isn't it?
Nope, 570S has CC brakes, 570GT has steel.
I don’t know which body panels are different, I just recall reviews at launch listing the cost savings and body panels was one.
The 570GT comes with CC brakes as standard

Lee Jones Jnr

570 posts

130 months

Monday 8th June
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39sl said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
davek_964 said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
540 comes with steel brakes, less power and fewer carbon fibre body panels and black plastic trim instead of palladium grey.
The 570 also has steel brakes. Only the super series - starting with the 650 - had ceramic as standard.
I didn't think there was a difference in body panels between 540 and 570 either - again, it's the super series that has carbon body panels isn't it?
Nope, 570S has CC brakes, 570GT has steel.
I don’t know which body panels are different, I just recall reviews at launch listing the cost savings and body panels was one.
The 570GT comes with CC brakes as standard
(It doesn’t)

johnnyreggae

2,514 posts

120 months

Monday 8th June
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
(It doesn’t)
True "Carbon Ceramic Brakes £7,290"

Am43

135 posts

43 months

Monday 8th June
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540 has slightly smaller front splitters, steel brakes and the rear diffuser is slightly different.
However I have seen a few 540’s with ceramics.

There’s very little in it to be honest, and I’m not sure you would be able to tell much if any performance difference.

39sl

146 posts

84 months

Monday 8th June
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johnnyreggae said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
(It doesn’t)
True "Carbon Ceramic Brakes £7,290"
Well this is all news to me...I was sure it came with CC's as standard.
I was even more sure when I purchased mine and was offered the no cost option of cast iron discs, didnt choose this and so my car, sitting outside right now has CC brakes, but I'm happy to be corrected in as few words as is possible smile
I will concede mine is a 2019 car so can't comment on earlier cars

Lee Jones Jnr

570 posts

130 months

Monday 8th June
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39sl said:
johnnyreggae said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
(It doesn’t)
True "Carbon Ceramic Brakes £7,290"
Well this is all news to me...I was sure it came with CC's as standard.
I was even more sure when I purchased mine and was offered the no cost option of cast iron discs, didnt choose this and so my car, sitting outside right now has CC brakes, but I'm happy to be corrected in as few words as is possible smile
Are you outside UK?
Maybe other markets are different but that’s the score in the UK.

39sl

146 posts

84 months

Monday 8th June
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Lee Jones Jnr said:
39sl said:
johnnyreggae said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
(It doesn’t)
True "Carbon Ceramic Brakes £7,290"
Well this is all news to me...I was sure it came with CC's as standard.
I was even more sure when I purchased mine and was offered the no cost option of cast iron discs, didnt choose this and so my car, sitting outside right now has CC brakes, but I'm happy to be corrected in as few words as is possible smile
Are you outside UK?
Maybe other markets are different but that’s the score in the UK.
No, sitting very much in the UK, purchased new from McLaren Birmingham last year. It does look like the 570GT was given a bit of an update in 2018 which resulted in CC being standard kit rather than an option previously.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/mclaren/...

Lee Jones Jnr

570 posts

130 months

Monday 8th June
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39sl said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
39sl said:
johnnyreggae said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
(It doesn’t)
True "Carbon Ceramic Brakes £7,290"
Well this is all news to me...I was sure it came with CC's as standard.
I was even more sure when I purchased mine and was offered the no cost option of cast iron discs, didnt choose this and so my car, sitting outside right now has CC brakes, but I'm happy to be corrected in as few words as is possible smile
Are you outside UK?
Maybe other markets are different but that’s the score in the UK.
No, sitting very much in the UK, purchased new from McLaren Birmingham last year. It does look like the 570GT was given a bit of an update in 2018 which resulted in CC being standard kit rather than an option previously.

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/mclaren/...
I’m too lazy to read that, my eyes aren’t working well but I believe you, must have been a change along the way.
I only know from looking for a car but that’s quite recently so I think the McLaren website may be out of date, that’s not a shock though, it’s not the best.

justin220

Original Poster:

4,490 posts

164 months

Thursday 13th August
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Morning all, time for a well overdue update.
Understandably the car hasn't been driven much lately. In fact very little since Covid kicked off although I have just kicked over 10k miles, just gone three years old. I'm always a bit 'self aware' driving around, but even more so in the current climate.  I've deliberately tried to reduce the useage of it.  
Anyways, I've been down at McGlasgow this week for its 3rd year service, MOT and also decided to renew the warranty. I'm glad that I did, as the MOT and service visit picked up a few issues. More on that later. 
IMG_20200811_092904 by justinking1986, on Flickr

I swithered back and forth on the warranty renewal, read a lot online about keeping the cash in the bank instead, but peace of mind won for me, and £2900 later at least I know I've got another 12 months / 12k miles hopefully worry free. It sounds a lot of money, but I don't think it's too bad for how comprehensive it is, and also how expensive a bill could be should something go wrong.
Third year service is a minor one, with optional oil change. I decided to change the oil and MOT it, total cost was £925 Again, I don't think that's too bad.  Although all in, its been an expensive month with very little miles done!
The service from McGlasgow was superb as usual. Nothing is too much hassle and you feel a genuine connection with the team. Some lovely cars in stock aswell, I think it would be a tough choice between these if I were to upgrade.
IMG_20200811_152709 by justinking1986, on Flickr

The car unfortunately will need another dealer visit, it has two minor coolant weeps, some bad corrosion on the brake hose connections, and two suspension bushes needing replaced. A bit surprised given the car is only 3 years old. But glad the warranty will Cover it. 
I was kindly given a drive in the new GT when my service was being done. I'll do a separate write up on my thoughts on it, but in brief, I thought it was a brilliant bit of kit. I wish my 540C sounded that good, the active exhaust is glorious. A very similar car, but also very different. I really liked the similarities, as it felt very natural to drive. Alarmingly reassuring to drive cross country quickly, it picks up speed very easily/quickly and I didn't feel it had the same sensation of speed as the 540. I guess that's the whole point. Genuinely surprised at how good it is. 
IMG_20200811_114800 by justinking1986, on Flickr

DJI_0316 by justinking1986, on Flickr

DJI_0330 by justinking1986, on Flickr

The best comparison I can make, is if the 540C feels like a Lotus Exige, the GT feels like the Evora. Still has the McLaren DNA, just dialled down somewhat 
As I've not driven my 540C much, I planned a nice wee route for the service. The drive down was via the Cairn O'Mount Road, and averaged a very healthy MPG..
IMG_20200811_092507 by justinking1986, on Flickr 
Coming back home was a great drive , via the A939 Old Military Road to Braemar. I'd highly recommend anyone up this way to drive it. I know I've posted a few pics from it before, but the scenery absolutely justifies taking a few more when passing through. 
Old Military Road by justinking1986, on Flickr

Old Military Road by justinking1986, on Flickr

Old Military Road by justinking1986, on Flickr

Old Military Road by justinking1986, on Flickr


RSbandit

1,290 posts

92 months

Thursday 13th August
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Superb pics I really need to get up there some time but such a long boring haul from London ! Yeah my 570s has had about 10k worth of warranty work done since I got it in Dec , leaking damper and the suspension bushings and arms on the front needing replacing were main items but mine has over 20k miles so suprised to hear yours had same issue at only 10k. Seems like the warranty is a no brainer tbh. It is v comprehensive at least much more so than other manufacturers.

Am43

135 posts

43 months

Thursday 13th August
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Pics are great Justin, mine had the 4 front rad hoses/pipes replaced as they had signs of weeping Too, my emergency key barrel underneath the car was jammed so had they replaced it which also meant brand new key fobs ( seems overkill considering they key blade isn’t actually part of the key ).
Hopefully that’s me till next July now , clicked over 16k miles last night and probably hit 17k pretty soon between the nice weather and the mini road trip I have planned.

Smoothound

78 posts

6 months

Thursday 13th August
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Nice update Justin thumbup

Mine will need to go in in November for it's 3rd service, Warranty extension and for them to look at the small bit of panel corrosion I have found frown

It's going to be a bit of a faff because I fear they won't extend the warranty as it's currently on non standard wheels and tyres so it means switching back to the standard ones and the awful PZeros again plus the added £££s!!

davek_964

7,019 posts

135 months

Thursday 13th August
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I have Michelin on mine, and still have warranty work being done - I'd be surprised if they refuse to renew the warranty just because of tyres - it's not like they're covered anyway!