McLaren Servicing - What a shambles....

McLaren Servicing - What a shambles....

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Nomal

258 posts

112 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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MrGrump said:
Where on the car did you find the corrosion?
It was confined to the lower oblique on the drivers door. There was also over spray on the roofline crease which the dealers believe has been like that since day one and never picked up.

All remedied now and looking great!!

EliaBTC

2 posts

95 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Nomal said:
EliaBTC said:
I've owned a 570s since January! Tried to buy one 3 times from a dealer network, low and behold service was awful!! No call back made 3 visits sales staff wouldn't even come and acknowledged me! (McLaren London) So I decided to buy from outside their network and bought my car from Tom Hartley!

Since January my car has been with McLaren for warranty work for over 4 months!

Paint corrosion on a car less than 2 years old then God awful service! Now reading this I can see exactly why!

This cannot go on! I've ended up putting the thing up for sale...


I purchased a 12 month old 570S on the 2nd July 2018, I also found corrosion areas 2 weeks later. The main dealer took a look and agreed the warranty work, car went in on the 30th July and collected on the 9th August.

All done to time frame and kept updated. My dealer is based in the West Midlands.
I wish my experience was as good as yours! I still love the car it was a dream car for me and the poor service has really put me off!


ghost83

5,478 posts

191 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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McLaren Leeds were talking to me about service they are addressing the issues and can get cars turned around pretty quick to say they only have 2 bays! Their new showroom will have 6 bays next year

100 IAN

Original Poster:

1,091 posts

163 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Nomal said:
It was confined to the lower oblique on the drivers door. There was also over spray on the roofline crease which the dealers believe has been like that since day one and never picked up.

All remedied now and looking great!!
You would be amazed at how many cars have remedial paintwork carried out BEFORE new owner even takes delivery.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

120 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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MrGrump said:
This is such a shame. Amazing cars and British but with a back up like this surely people won’t jump into the brand if they do their research.
This takes me back to the days when i had a TVR. I had what felt like a TVR Time Share. Bought a new Tuscan S. I had it for a week and then TVR had it for 3 weeks mending it! The dealer network couldn’t cope with all the problems so TVR factory intervened and at least they used to bring out another TVR whilst mine was on holiday in Blackpool, they didn’t think a Volvo was a suitable replacement!
And look what happened to TVR.

Nano2nd

3,426 posts

257 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Ferruccio said:
MrGrump said:
This is such a shame. Amazing cars and British but with a back up like this surely people won’t jump into the brand if they do their research.
This takes me back to the days when i had a TVR. I had what felt like a TVR Time Share. Bought a new Tuscan S. I had it for a week and then TVR had it for 3 weeks mending it! The dealer network couldn’t cope with all the problems so TVR factory intervened and at least they used to bring out another TVR whilst mine was on holiday in Blackpool, they didn’t think a Volvo was a suitable replacement!
And look what happened to TVR.
funnily enough i was just thinking reading this thread, is McLaren now the new TVR...

ferdi p

1,519 posts

173 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Nano2nd said:
funnily enough i was just thinking reading this thread, is McLaren now the new TVR...
Yea I agree, the MTC in Woking is very similar to that old shed in Blackpool!! laugh

Targarama

14,635 posts

284 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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ferdi p said:
Nano2nd said:
funnily enough i was just thinking reading this thread, is McLaren now the new TVR...
Yea I agree, the MTC in Woking is very similar to that old shed in Blackpool!! laugh
TVR left their chassis 'out the back' to get a patina before building them into a car. I suspect McLaren do the same with their body panels, hence the ally/moisture corrosion stories.

stuthemong

2,280 posts

218 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Now come on, at least TVR used composite panels, so all their corrosion was nicely hidden from public view!

With TVR, the corrosion issues on Astons, its like our UK automotive manufacturing engineering degrees could do with a little more focus on corrosion inhibiting!

I recently drove some 570 sports series cars, and noticed a lot of the faults described during this thread on a short test drive.

Brand new car, zero miles, with obvious paintwork in the showroom.

Shift lights not working in manual mode (i thought I'd imagined this, but another poster here saw the same, it must be a bug)

What felt like lots of turbo lag, but based on some posts here, I now think was traction kicking in (without telling me)

Iris sucked

I came away liking the cars though, but was frustrated at over digitisation. They were too fast for me on UK roads, too easy to drive.

But I wish mclaren had gone less to town on the tech; shift lights should be lights, on the dash or wheel, high contrast and obvious in peripheral. In manual mode the speedo was relegated to tiny font. I like to see revs/ shift lights and speed when driving. I don't need tyre pressure or any other fancy stuff, KISS. The display was just tacky IMO, if you really want to go digital, make it high contrast and high refresh speed, it looked to update at 15fps or so. Not slick.

And 5 presses on iris to get anything done.

Chassis, suspension, engine all big ticks. So why overcomplicated the 'easy' bits and make them rubbish?

They should make a 'superleggera' variant with carbon panels to sort corrosion, a simple stack dash, manual ac controls and a normal stereo (with delete option). Job. Jobbed.

Edited by stuthe on Sunday 12th August 11:39


Edited by stuthe on Sunday 12th August 11:40

LotusJas

1,324 posts

232 months

Sunday 12th August 2018
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Every single item you listed has been fixed by McLaren, albeit on the 720S.

Although I do think all of those are not as significant as made out to be. Traction control can be disabled on 570S for example.

kalibre46

278 posts

132 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Nomal said:
MrGrump said:
Where on the car did you find the corrosion?
It was confined to the lower oblique on the drivers door. There was also over spray on the roofline crease which the dealers believe has been like that since day one and never picked up.

All remedied now and looking great!!
What did the corrosion look like? I've found a small spot on mine that feels bumpy and rough although the top layer of paint seems to be intact. Almost like something has been resprayed without being sanded down. Wondering if it is the same thing?

Nomal

258 posts

112 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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kalibre46 said:
Nomal said:
MrGrump said:
Where on the car did you find the corrosion?
It was confined to the lower oblique on the drivers door. There was also over spray on the roofline crease which the dealers believe has been like that since day one and never picked up.

All remedied now and looking great!!
What did the corrosion look like? I've found a small spot on mine that feels bumpy and rough although the top layer of paint seems to be intact. Almost like something has been resprayed without being sanded down. Wondering if it is the same thing?
Yes exactly that as you described, just report it let them take a look and that should be it. they will then arrange the warranty work.

kalibre46

278 posts

132 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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Nomal said:
kalibre46 said:
Nomal said:
MrGrump said:
Where on the car did you find the corrosion?
It was confined to the lower oblique on the drivers door. There was also over spray on the roofline crease which the dealers believe has been like that since day one and never picked up.

All remedied now and looking great!!
What did the corrosion look like? I've found a small spot on mine that feels bumpy and rough although the top layer of paint seems to be intact. Almost like something has been resprayed without being sanded down. Wondering if it is the same thing?
Yes exactly that as you described, just report it let them take a look and that should be it. they will then arrange the warranty work.
Great, cheers.

MrGrump

106 posts

180 months

Monday 13th August 2018
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I’ve now got the slowest rusty 570S in the country! Registered in May, never seen the wet and found some corrosion today whilst on a clean up mission. How is this possible? Surely Mclaren would have treated the rusty old buckets before they turned them into body panels.
It’s going to have to be a money back job now. I’m feeling sadness

rex-knd2s

15 posts

84 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Following on from the original post, Mclaren have big after sales issues which at the moment and is spoiling my enjoyment of ownership.

I have several paint issues with the car now ( 9 months old) plus the standard non closing windows.

Having informed Mclaren Bristol of these on the 6th via email asking for a call, still no call just two holding emails. Thought ok, ill use my local branch Hatfield (And appreciate these are a new centre) having left two messages Tuesday plus to email requests for a service still no phone call. I ended up having to call there partner Aston Martin as the phone line for Mclaren just rings and rings till the call is dropped.

Sitting here now having spent alot of money i feel like ive bought of Ebay and trying to track down a moody company.



100 IAN

Original Poster:

1,091 posts

163 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Its very disheartening to read more and more people in the same situation - ste service from McLaren main dealers who are just too over loaded to cope.

Even McLaren client services are now not returning calls. I guess its holiday season and a system that was at breaking point is now totally broken.

  • Dealers don't return calls
  • Dealers so over loaded with work they're turning away urgent repairs or telling customers it'll be 3x weeks before they can even assess your car
  • Service capacity so inadequate that you need to book your car in weeks in advance, only to then get your booking cancelled
  • A simple annual service that should only take a day typically takes a week, sometimes 2
  • Numerous mechanical warranty issues - extended warranty costs have been increased by 50% on older cars, reflecting the amount of work/costs required
  • Increasing paint issues on cars often only months old - if you knew the queues at the approved bodyshops you'd be gob-smacked
As an owner for over 2.5 years i'm not going to score any brownie point with my fellow McLaren buddies, but McLaren's policy of launching ever more new cars without the means to support them is just crazy.

To spend £200k+ on a car that will be superseded within months, have class leading depreciation, poor customer service, a significant chance of corrosion and be off the road just waiting to be looked at/parts to arrive is just unacceptable.

McLaren - There is no excuse for this, sort your act out before its too late...

ps Spare me the "these things take time we have more dealer capacity opening soon" - that has been the story for the last 2.5 years, probably longer but I wasn't an owner back then. The situation has just steadily got worse and will continue to do so until McLaren wakes up and does something.

Your priority McLaren shouldn't be the vanity trip of launching a gazillion new cars it should be addressing the service needs of your existing customers.

  • Opening new centres (not sales sites, its servicing needs you need to address)
  • Supporting independents - many have approached you and you belligerently string them along and palm them off
  • Hold stock of parts so cars aren't forever waiting for a part
  • Get your Quality Control sorted so cars don't go out as a corrosion time bomb
Final word - they're technically and dynamically great cars, but sadly badly let down by atrocious customer service.

Ferruccio

1,835 posts

120 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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Any business in this state should seriously consider suspending new production for a period whilst it focuses 100% on dealing with all these issues at pace.
Otherwise it’s just digging the hole deeper.
Short term numbers vs long term value?

Bunty Killa

517 posts

200 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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This thread puts me off Mclaren!!

RamboLambo

4,843 posts

171 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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100 IAN said:
Its very disheartening to read more and more people in the same situation - ste service from McLaren main dealers who are just too over loaded to cope.

Even McLaren client services are now not returning calls. I guess its holiday season and a system that was at breaking point is now totally broken.

  • Dealers don't return calls
  • Dealers so over loaded with work they're turning away urgent repairs or telling customers it'll be 3x weeks before they can even assess your car
  • Service capacity so inadequate that you need to book your car in weeks in advance, only to then get your booking cancelled
  • A simple annual service that should only take a day typically takes a week, sometimes 2
  • Numerous mechanical warranty issues - extended warranty costs have been increased by 50% on older cars, reflecting the amount of work/costs required
  • Increasing paint issues on cars often only months old - if you knew the queues at the approved bodyshops you'd be gob-smacked
As an owner for over 2.5 years i'm not going to score any brownie point with my fellow McLaren buddies, but McLaren's policy of launching ever more new cars without the means to support them is just crazy.

To spend £200k+ on a car that will be superseded within months, have class leading depreciation, poor customer service, a significant chance of corrosion and be off the road just waiting to be looked at/parts to arrive is just unacceptable.

McLaren - There is no excuse for this, sort your act out before its too late...

ps Spare me the "these things take time we have more dealer capacity opening soon" - that has been the story for the last 2.5 years, probably longer but I wasn't an owner back then. The situation has just steadily got worse and will continue to do so until McLaren wakes up and does something.

Your priority McLaren shouldn't be the vanity trip of launching a gazillion new cars it should be addressing the service needs of your existing customers.

  • Opening new centres (not sales sites, its servicing needs you need to address)
  • Supporting independents - many have approached you and you belligerently string them along and palm them off
  • Hold stock of parts so cars aren't forever waiting for a part
  • Get your Quality Control sorted so cars don't go out as a corrosion time bomb
Final word - they're technically and dynamically great cars, but sadly badly let down by atrocious customer service.
I presume you have put your grievances in writing to McLaren themselves. Personally I have not experienced any issues but IF there is a ground swell of opinion like above and everyone effected writes to McLaren as opposed to on a forum they will have to listen and get it sorted.

My advice for what its worth is to put any issues in writing to McLaren Head Office at least that way they will be fully aware of the problem if there is a problem nationally.

My car was in this week to have the tracker reset after it went into hibernation after 18 months storage. I was booked in within a week with a lovely courtesy car and the car was returned within 3 hours with nothing to pay. I could not ask for any better service

sone

4,587 posts

239 months

Friday 17th August 2018
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RamboLambo said:
My advice for what its worth is to put any issues in writing to McLaren Head Office at least that way they will be fully aware of the problem if there is a problem nationally.

Good grief, if they don't already know there's no hope.