720s Below 200K Already
Discussion
mcl570 said:
Has anyone on here completed any long distance journeys in there 720s? I would be interested to hear your feedback 
Brad or username brd went on a Euro trip in a 720S in the summer but said something about chopping it infor a Spyder of some sort.
Here.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Justin I had a 20 minute run out in a 720S this week on Rybrook dinner & drive day. The main differences I noted in the short time with the car was an earlier & harder hit of torque compared to the 570, this rush then continues in a similar but elevated way over 570. Whilst 570 could hardly be described as lacking in the engine stakes needless to say 720 is a good & very noticeable step up, a very quick car indeed.
To me over 570 the most noticeable difference is the fantastic stability on the brakes, to say the least 570 is a tad wayward on anything other than a billiard smooth surface under a hard stop from high speed.
The combo of active suspension & elevating rear wing work very well to pin the back of the car down during a hard stop.As you have probably found out unless the suspension is in Sport or Track to help tie it down 570 can get very very lary indeed!
Not to say that is always such a bad thing as it does tend to focus the mind reminding you that you are really traveling in these cars & need to be dialled in if really pressing on.
Whilst not conclusive on such a short drive I felt the steering on 570 to be better than 720 in terms of feel & feedback, possibly partly down to the narrower tyres the 570 runs.
In short I'm very much looking forward the forthcoming 720 Spider as a logical upgrade. Of course that will be subject to the affordability of such a swap, maybe a mute point & a bridge too far to cross considering the current market.
Saying that it will be absolutely no hardship to keep the 570 Spider as I love it!
To me over 570 the most noticeable difference is the fantastic stability on the brakes, to say the least 570 is a tad wayward on anything other than a billiard smooth surface under a hard stop from high speed.
The combo of active suspension & elevating rear wing work very well to pin the back of the car down during a hard stop.As you have probably found out unless the suspension is in Sport or Track to help tie it down 570 can get very very lary indeed!
Not to say that is always such a bad thing as it does tend to focus the mind reminding you that you are really traveling in these cars & need to be dialled in if really pressing on.
Whilst not conclusive on such a short drive I felt the steering on 570 to be better than 720 in terms of feel & feedback, possibly partly down to the narrower tyres the 570 runs.
In short I'm very much looking forward the forthcoming 720 Spider as a logical upgrade. Of course that will be subject to the affordability of such a swap, maybe a mute point & a bridge too far to cross considering the current market.
Saying that it will be absolutely no hardship to keep the 570 Spider as I love it!
mcl570 said:
Has anyone on here completed any long distance journeys in there 720s? I would be interested to hear your feedback
Hi 19 of us just did the McLaren owners club eurotour completing approx 2k miles, a friend of mine was in a 720, ran faultlessly all week.Not sure you can even think about sport series v super series.
I have never heard anyone say anything bad about 720, .......... depreciation aside.
dsl2 said:
Justin I had a 20 minute run out in a 720S this week on Rybrook dinner & drive day. The main differences I noted in the short time with the car was an earlier & harder hit of torque compared to the 570, this rush then continues in a similar but elevated way over 570. Whilst 570 could hardly be described as lacking in the engine stakes needless to say 720 is a good & very noticeable step up, a very quick car indeed.
To me over 570 the most noticeable difference is the fantastic stability on the brakes, to say the least 570 is a tad wayward on anything other than a billiard smooth surface under a hard stop from high speed.
The combo of active suspension & elevating rear wing work very well to pin the back of the car down during a hard stop.As you have probably found out unless the suspension is in Sport or Track to help tie it down 570 can get very very lary indeed!
Not to say that is always such a bad thing as it does tend to focus the mind reminding you that you are really traveling in these cars & need to be dialled in if really pressing on.
Whilst not conclusive on such a short drive I felt the steering on 570 to be better than 720 in terms of feel & feedback, possibly partly down to the narrower tyres the 570 runs.
In short I'm very much looking forward the forthcoming 720 Spider as a logical upgrade. Of course that will be subject to the affordability of such a swap, maybe a mute point & a bridge too far to cross considering the current market.
Saying that it will be absolutely no hardship to keep the 570 Spider as I love it!
Did you manage to drive it with DSC off, turns the car into a different animal !To me over 570 the most noticeable difference is the fantastic stability on the brakes, to say the least 570 is a tad wayward on anything other than a billiard smooth surface under a hard stop from high speed.
The combo of active suspension & elevating rear wing work very well to pin the back of the car down during a hard stop.As you have probably found out unless the suspension is in Sport or Track to help tie it down 570 can get very very lary indeed!
Not to say that is always such a bad thing as it does tend to focus the mind reminding you that you are really traveling in these cars & need to be dialled in if really pressing on.
Whilst not conclusive on such a short drive I felt the steering on 570 to be better than 720 in terms of feel & feedback, possibly partly down to the narrower tyres the 570 runs.
In short I'm very much looking forward the forthcoming 720 Spider as a logical upgrade. Of course that will be subject to the affordability of such a swap, maybe a mute point & a bridge too far to cross considering the current market.
Saying that it will be absolutely no hardship to keep the 570 Spider as I love it!
I did 3k mile euro trip this year with no problems.
dsl2 said:
Justin I had a 20 minute run out in a 720S this week on Rybrook dinner & drive day. The main differences I noted in the short time with the car was an earlier & harder hit of torque compared to the 570, this rush then continues in a similar but elevated way over 570. Whilst 570 could hardly be described as lacking in the engine stakes needless to say 720 is a good & very noticeable step up, a very quick car indeed.
To me over 570 the most noticeable difference is the fantastic stability on the brakes, to say the least 570 is a tad wayward on anything other than a billiard smooth surface under a hard stop from high speed.
The combo of active suspension & elevating rear wing work very well to pin the back of the car down during a hard stop.As you have probably found out unless the suspension is in Sport or Track to help tie it down 570 can get very very lary indeed!
Not to say that is always such a bad thing as it does tend to focus the mind reminding you that you are really traveling in these cars & need to be dialled in if really pressing on.
Whilst not conclusive on such a short drive I felt the steering on 570 to be better than 720 in terms of feel & feedback, possibly partly down to the narrower tyres the 570 runs.
In short I'm very much looking forward the forthcoming 720 Spider as a logical upgrade. Of course that will be subject to the affordability of such a swap, maybe a mute point & a bridge too far to cross considering the current market.
Saying that it will be absolutely no hardship to keep the 570 Spider as I love it!
Interesting, thanks for that! I'll need to try one sometime To me over 570 the most noticeable difference is the fantastic stability on the brakes, to say the least 570 is a tad wayward on anything other than a billiard smooth surface under a hard stop from high speed.
The combo of active suspension & elevating rear wing work very well to pin the back of the car down during a hard stop.As you have probably found out unless the suspension is in Sport or Track to help tie it down 570 can get very very lary indeed!
Not to say that is always such a bad thing as it does tend to focus the mind reminding you that you are really traveling in these cars & need to be dialled in if really pressing on.
Whilst not conclusive on such a short drive I felt the steering on 570 to be better than 720 in terms of feel & feedback, possibly partly down to the narrower tyres the 570 runs.
In short I'm very much looking forward the forthcoming 720 Spider as a logical upgrade. Of course that will be subject to the affordability of such a swap, maybe a mute point & a bridge too far to cross considering the current market.
Saying that it will be absolutely no hardship to keep the 570 Spider as I love it!
TISPKJ said:
Hi 19 of us just did the McLaren owners club eurotour completing approx 2k miles, a friend of mine was in a 720, ran faultlessly all week.
Not sure you can even think about sport series v super series.
I have never heard anyone say anything bad about 720, .......... depreciation aside.
Apart from Br D, who in this very thread details selling his 720s for a 570 Spider.........Not sure you can even think about sport series v super series.
I have never heard anyone say anything bad about 720, .......... depreciation aside.
The drive day was on Thursday last week, fortunately all of the runs out were just prior to a late afternoon down pour so I was able to (within the limitation of the drive route) give it a little bit of stick.
The accompanying Mclaren test drive guy was pretty trusting to give him credit, I wouldn't want to sit next to a random unknown giving a powerful car some welly.
However they do tend to qualify you as much as they can & after the usual bout of questions about your car history my guy relaxed & turned some of the driving aids off for me (didn't pay too much attention as to what settings it was on whilst busy concentrating on driving around the windy lanes to begin with) fortunately my history includes quite a back story of racing various car types over the years from Caterham's through to single seaters so he was happy enough for me to light it up a few times without so much as a squeak, of course I didn't take the mickey as I wouldn't like it very much if the roles were reversed.
Look forward to having a proper run out in one at some point in the near future to really get a proper feel for it.
The accompanying Mclaren test drive guy was pretty trusting to give him credit, I wouldn't want to sit next to a random unknown giving a powerful car some welly.
However they do tend to qualify you as much as they can & after the usual bout of questions about your car history my guy relaxed & turned some of the driving aids off for me (didn't pay too much attention as to what settings it was on whilst busy concentrating on driving around the windy lanes to begin with) fortunately my history includes quite a back story of racing various car types over the years from Caterham's through to single seaters so he was happy enough for me to light it up a few times without so much as a squeak, of course I didn't take the mickey as I wouldn't like it very much if the roles were reversed.
Look forward to having a proper run out in one at some point in the near future to really get a proper feel for it.
Edited by dsl2 on Monday 15th October 09:56
Edited by dsl2 on Monday 15th October 10:43
DT398 said:
RamboLambo said:
Some cars are priced to sell rather than sit unsold for years like those speculatively priced.
The cheapest has been the Tom Hartley car at £199k that sold IMMEDIATELY with several more buyers disappointed.
Anything will always sell at a price and there will always be the odd one off car that due to circumstances will be cheap. That in itself does not make it the norm. I know of a similar spec car that was bought for £225k by a mate of mine. He still saved circa £40k off list and was happy with the deal
An oddball launch 12 month old car with 5,000 miles could hit £175 k in the next 12 months possibly but there is still a lot of wishful thinking going on.
Its all relative and as you have rightly stated if these cars do come down they effect the whole supercar market equilibrium.
At £199k a 720S is a steal even if its not the most desirable spec but don't hold your breath for a nearly new delivery mileage car getting anywhere near £175k and £80k off list.
This cooling of the whole supercar market will recover and its only those that have to sell at a low point that will lose out. Others will just ride it out until prices recover so if you want to bag a bargain its all about timing and personally I think a bag full of swag in December 2018 will be a great time to deal.
Laughable. A queue of disappointed buyers having missed out on a 720s at £199k. Yeah right. Plenty more available and lots unsold for a while. 650s still dropping and it will continue. Fantasy land to talk of a recovery in prices. Here comes the 600LT followed by a succession of faster shinier things as part of Macs track 25 endless model evolution. You went on a year ago about 650 prices going up and underpinned by the 12c that would never drop below a certain point etc etc. Look where these are now and it was the only logical outcome with anything where supply is not limited. The cheapest has been the Tom Hartley car at £199k that sold IMMEDIATELY with several more buyers disappointed.
Anything will always sell at a price and there will always be the odd one off car that due to circumstances will be cheap. That in itself does not make it the norm. I know of a similar spec car that was bought for £225k by a mate of mine. He still saved circa £40k off list and was happy with the deal
An oddball launch 12 month old car with 5,000 miles could hit £175 k in the next 12 months possibly but there is still a lot of wishful thinking going on.
Its all relative and as you have rightly stated if these cars do come down they effect the whole supercar market equilibrium.
At £199k a 720S is a steal even if its not the most desirable spec but don't hold your breath for a nearly new delivery mileage car getting anywhere near £175k and £80k off list.
This cooling of the whole supercar market will recover and its only those that have to sell at a low point that will lose out. Others will just ride it out until prices recover so if you want to bag a bargain its all about timing and personally I think a bag full of swag in December 2018 will be a great time to deal.
Where do people see these by spring next year? its not far away now.
£179,950 UK 1 owner car. Oynx black with 1,000 miles:
http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_M...
http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_M...
r o n n i e said:
£179,950 UK 1 owner car. Oynx black with 1,000 miles:
http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_M...
That has to be the Supercar bargain of the centuary!http://www.joemacari.com/All-Cars-for-Sale/_prod_M...
Calculator said:
Wow, what’s Macari paid for that? £150-155k given the lack of competing main dealer bids for these?
He took an LT and 720 both in Px for a Senna so who knows what deal and margin was done.....at end of day both LT and 720 sold in a day so were priced to convert straight back to ££ and will have made good money on the Senna for sure.Calculator said:
Wow, what’s Macari paid for that? £150-155k given the lack of competing main dealer bids for these?
He may have but considering how cheap it is relatively speaking then I think he probably had a narrower margin than you would expect.If he paid £165k he knew that he had the cheapest 720 on the market and a 15K margin,not a bad days work.
I think these are going to become hard to ignore going forward and IMO will become popular at these prices!
They do make the choice between one of these and the 600LT an interesting predicament.
I agree they are becoming tempting - esp if prices retract a little further once the spiders are being delivered - no way i’d buy a 458/488/GT3 PDK over one of those at similar price levels
They are still a lot more expensive in Germany though, so would buy RHD (arguably better on track anyway and given the power overtaking on the road should not be an issue ...)
They are still a lot more expensive in Germany though, so would buy RHD (arguably better on track anyway and given the power overtaking on the road should not be an issue ...)
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