considering 675LT purchase - advice from owners please!
Discussion
gunner said:
Happy to stand corrected but 99.9% certain the car in question hasn't had any carbon parts painted over, they were just never specced in the first place hence side blades, mirrors etc just remain body coloured.
Hard to see why an LT owner would spec external carbon parts at significant personal expense only to paint over them. I've seen some mad car behaviour in my time but that would truly cap the lot!
ALL 675 body kits have carbon blades on the edge of the front lip, the side pods are the same.Hard to see why an LT owner would spec external carbon parts at significant personal expense only to paint over them. I've seen some mad car behaviour in my time but that would truly cap the lot!
A fair few people decided they looked better painted so you see cars like the Romans one like that.
It is CF underneath.
Personal taste.
It does affect its appeal to others though.
isaldiri said:
MDL111 said:
I thought it was that you can have them painted or in bare carbon - part is the same for stuff like the side pod (and limely/possibly others)
It depends on the part I think. Mclaren are very good at charging for visible carbon fibre. For example the carbon fibre wings with front fenders on the 675 iirc were a grand or so less if painted compared to visible cf and the same for the front bonnet. 
Mikey K, I'm afraid that is not correct. I'm sat here looking at the invoice. I won't post it as it's too painful. But CF exterior upgrade pack is an option GBP 7880 (end plates, lower side intakes, rear bumper centre and upper). CF side intakes is an option GBP 2330. As are mirror casings (and mirror arms)! If you don't spec the CF you get the anthracite / grey plastic. TBH I think both look fine. You may be correct that they had to pay extra to paint the side plates and front plates - but from memory if you spec Elite paint (as that one is) I think you get the blades painted for free (but they aren't carbon fibre underneath).
Here's a link to a full US spec list so you can see every option and cost.
McL is exceptionally good at charging for visual CF.
http://edbolian.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/675...
Here's a link to a full US spec list so you can see every option and cost.
McL is exceptionally good at charging for visual CF.
http://edbolian.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/675...
Matty3 said:
Really! - the fact it was a left hooker affected it's desirability?
It certainly wouldn't have been too appealing to the majority of UK buyers. That car is destined for a European owner. The guys at Silverstone are good but I feel it would have sold if it was a European Auction such as RM's in Monaco earlier in the year. Auctions houses can make or break a car and make it more famous, which can hamper selling it in the future. I thought it might sell but for the very low end of its estimate.Cheapest 675LT in Europe currently is quite a basic car for 249K Euro (£219k) Rough average coupe price is 300k Euros. (£262k). Spiders are all over the place.
I've been stuck with a couple of LHD cars before and trying to get Mainland Europeans over to look at them is a real challenge.
mikey k said:
gunner said:
Happy to stand corrected but 99.9% certain the car in question hasn't had any carbon parts painted over, they were just never specced in the first place hence side blades, mirrors etc just remain body coloured.
Hard to see why an LT owner would spec external carbon parts at significant personal expense only to paint over them. I've seen some mad car behaviour in my time but that would truly cap the lot!
ALL 675 body kits have carbon blades on the edge of the front lip, the side pods are the same.Hard to see why an LT owner would spec external carbon parts at significant personal expense only to paint over them. I've seen some mad car behaviour in my time but that would truly cap the lot!
A fair few people decided they looked better painted so you see cars like the Romans one like that.
It is CF underneath.
Personal taste.
It does affect its appeal to others though.
You're right. Visual CF is absolutely not the same as painted. That's why they charge so much for it. The prices are nuts. But it makes a big diff aesthetically and for re-sale - as you say. It's not true that Romans won't do test drives on Its. I did one. Ask SB she's good. I'd be surprised to see any LT dip below 200k even painted carbon. It's too much car for that money, but obviously I bought one so I have a rather conflicted view on value!
911alltheway said:
You're right. Visual CF is absolutely not the same as painted. That's why they charge so much for it. The prices are nuts. But it makes a big diff aesthetically and for re-sale - as you say. It's not true that Romans won't do test drives on Its. I did one. Ask SB she's good. I'd be surprised to see any LT dip below 200k even painted carbon. It's too much car for that money, but obviously I bought one so I have a rather conflicted view on value!
There was 662 miles on the clock last time I went in to chat to KW about it. He was adamant it could not be driven as its too low miles and therefore mileage sensitive. Shame as I know i would probably have bought it if I had driven it so a very silly sales technique. That was back at the start of the summer when I had just sold my 12C. Perhaps they are being more realistic now. I see an LT at £100k over a used 650 and as the 650 comes down so should the 675. Unless the 600LT is a disaster and people are pushed to the 675. Also all the flippers should have flipped and they are mostly owned by 'keepers'. If this theory is true the market could dry up and that might push prices up. However I think circa £200k will be with us soon but perhaps not for long if the availability dries up.......?????Bispal said:
911alltheway said:
You're right. Visual CF is absolutely not the same as painted. That's why they charge so much for it. The prices are nuts. But it makes a big diff aesthetically and for re-sale - as you say. It's not true that Romans won't do test drives on Its. I did one. Ask SB she's good. I'd be surprised to see any LT dip below 200k even painted carbon. It's too much car for that money, but obviously I bought one so I have a rather conflicted view on value!
There was 662 miles on the clock last time I went in to chat to KW about it. He was adamant it could not be driven as its too low miles and therefore mileage sensitive. Shame as I know i would probably have bought it if I had driven it so a very silly sales technique. That was back at the start of the summer when I had just sold my 12C. Perhaps they are being more realistic now. I see an LT at £100k over a used 650 and as the 650 comes down so should the 675. Unless the 600LT is a disaster and people are pushed to the 675. Also all the flippers should have flipped and they are mostly owned by 'keepers'. If this theory is true the market could dry up and that might push prices up. However I think circa £200k will be with us soon but perhaps not for long if the availability dries up.......?????Put it this way, I would love an HP but if I could get a LT for a bit lower then I think the LT would get my hard earned and I am not a big of fan of McLaren cars but at that price it would be a steal.
Never you mind said:
Bispal said:
911alltheway said:
You're right. Visual CF is absolutely not the same as painted. That's why they charge so much for it. The prices are nuts. But it makes a big diff aesthetically and for re-sale - as you say. It's not true that Romans won't do test drives on Its. I did one. Ask SB she's good. I'd be surprised to see any LT dip below 200k even painted carbon. It's too much car for that money, but obviously I bought one so I have a rather conflicted view on value!
There was 662 miles on the clock last time I went in to chat to KW about it. He was adamant it could not be driven as its too low miles and therefore mileage sensitive. Shame as I know i would probably have bought it if I had driven it so a very silly sales technique. That was back at the start of the summer when I had just sold my 12C. Perhaps they are being more realistic now. I see an LT at £100k over a used 650 and as the 650 comes down so should the 675. Unless the 600LT is a disaster and people are pushed to the 675. Also all the flippers should have flipped and they are mostly owned by 'keepers'. If this theory is true the market could dry up and that might push prices up. However I think circa £200k will be with us soon but perhaps not for long if the availability dries up.......?????Put it this way, I would love an HP but if I could get a LT for a bit lower then I think the LT would get my hard earned and I am not a big of fan of McLaren cars but at that price it would be a steal.
I am aware one is a limited run track car and the other one a standard model, but to me at least the 720 then starts to look like better value for money, esp if I can find one with buckets and harnesses to use on track.
MDL111 said:
I generally agree, although if the 720 hits 150k or lower, then might consider that as an alternative. I just saw the cheapest ones are already in the 180s asking price. Spider announcement will probably put additional pressure on the coupes once those get delivered.
I am aware one is a limited run track car and the other one a standard model, but to me at least the 720 then starts to look like better value for money, esp if I can find one with buckets and harnesses to use on track.
The ONLY track pack 720s with buckets and harnesses I've seen are the ones McLaren use at Pure events and have been properly thrashed around numerous tracks all day. The Azore orange one I drove at Silverstone needed new seats and new ceramics. Mental machine, though I still prefer my 675.I am aware one is a limited run track car and the other one a standard model, but to me at least the 720 then starts to look like better value for money, esp if I can find one with buckets and harnesses to use on track.
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