650s CoupΓ©

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GT4RS

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1,965 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th September
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Charlie360 said:
It's also listed as a spider now!
They listed it as a spider sometime ago, I assume it’s because most people lol at spiders over coupes and the price they are asking is spider money not coupe money.

Surely it will sell soon as now it’s getting closer to 100k, it’s on SOR so the owners wants out at 100k to 105k at most so they aren’t that far away.

If the owner was more realistic a year ago he could of easy got 110k return SOR at the time.

355spiderguy

611 posts

118 months

Wednesday 18th September
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s2000db said:
justin220 said:
Only reasoning I can see is, the Porsche is significantly cheaper to run on warranty and servicing.

I can't quite get my head round someone picking a 991T over a Mac. Unless it's for the tiny back seats
Peace of mind, warranty, known depreciation rate, and you can get two sets of golf clubs on the rear seat shelf..
And all complete magnolia...fair enough if that's your thing.

Every person i know that has had a 911 turbo seems to lose interest in them very quickly.

Will be interesting to see how long it takes to shift that turbo s at £127k.

The unfortunate problem with the 650 coupe in question is that it has been tainted by being put from pillar to post trying to sell it...i wonder who actually owns it as so many dealers have had a go at selling.

It seems to have a great spec...the louvered wings alone are currently £5200 a piece to buy unpainted.

It needs to be nearer £100k so you could put a McLaren warranty on if the original has expired as i wouldn't fancy such a low mileage car that has been sitting about trying to be sold...these things were made to be used almost as a daily.


GT4RS

Original Poster:

1,965 posts

144 months

Wednesday 18th September
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355spiderguy said:
s2000db said:
justin220 said:
Only reasoning I can see is, the Porsche is significantly cheaper to run on warranty and servicing.

I can't quite get my head round someone picking a 991T over a Mac. Unless it's for the tiny back seats
Peace of mind, warranty, known depreciation rate, and you can get two sets of golf clubs on the rear seat shelf..
And all complete magnolia...fair enough if that's your thing.

Every person i know that has had a 911 turbo seems to lose interest in them very quickly.

Will be interesting to see how long it takes to shift that turbo s at £127k.

The unfortunate problem with the 650 coupe in question is that it has been tainted by being put from pillar to post trying to sell it...i wonder who actually owns it as so many dealers have had a go at selling.

It seems to have a great spec...the louvered wings alone are currently £5200 a piece to buy unpainted.

It needs to be nearer £100k so you could put a McLaren warranty on if the original has expired as i wouldn't fancy such a low mileage car that has been sitting about trying to be sold...these things were made to be used almost as a daily.
Agree warranty is a must, it’s not been used properly for some time.

The ones who have sat on the side line for sometime will know that this car has sat unsold for over a year.

Such a shame as it’s beautiful imo, the yearly warranty cost kills it for me 4K to 5k a year in warranty cost would get me a divorce.

Come on someone with money to burn buy so I can stop looking at it 🤣

TheRecruiter

18 posts

69 months

Monday 30th September
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Hello - had a scan through this thread, and some good info been posted about.

I'm currently considering a change from to an R8 V10 Plus, or something like the above 650s.

This 650S seems suspiciously 'cheap' - is it an ex press car? How daft would I be to be shoving 10k mile pa onto something like this?

davek_964

6,111 posts

122 months

Monday 30th September
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Is it that cheap? When I bought my spider it seemed coupes were ~£100k and spiders were ~£120k.

Personally, a 6 month Synter warranty seems a very poor second choice compared to the McLaren warranty. For me, the McLaren warranty was a must have.

TheRecruiter

18 posts

69 months

Monday 30th September
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Fair enough - just seems to be a lot of car for the money compared to the other sub-£100k 650s'.

It does make me wonder why it's for sale at a Sytner Select rather than as an approved Mclaren car.

355spiderguy

611 posts

118 months

Monday 30th September
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TheRecruiter said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Hello - had a scan through this thread, and some good info been posted about.

I'm currently considering a change from to an R8 V10 Plus, or something like the above 650s.

This 650S seems suspiciously 'cheap' - is it an ex press car? How daft would I be to be shoving 10k mile pa onto something like this?
With that being just 3yrs old and a wee bit of negotiating still to do, i feel that is pretty cheap.

Don't think you could go wrong if you got it for £95k or less and put 10k a year miles on it...there isn't anything else on the road as quick, capable or as comfy as that for that age and price....so what if it loses £10k a year....you lose nearly double that on a brand new Vauxhall Insignia in a year.

Just remember that whatever you manage to discount it by, put that cash towards an inspection and warranty by McLaren so you can sleep at night.


FocusRS3

3,039 posts

38 months

Monday 30th September
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355spiderguy said:
With that being just 3yrs old and a wee bit of negotiating still to do, i feel that is pretty cheap.

Don't think you could go wrong if you got it for £95k or less and put 10k a year miles on it...there isn't anything else on the road as quick, capable or as comfy as that for that age and price....so what if it loses £10k a year....you lose nearly double that on a brand new Vauxhall Insignia in a year.

Just remember that whatever you manage to discount it by, put that cash towards an inspection and warranty by McLaren so you can sleep at night.
Depreciation , warranty and general maintenance on these cars is atrocious hence why they are a tough sell and that Mclaren wont bid for their own cars so don't support their own product.
i'm sure this stuff has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread already.....

davek_964

6,111 posts

122 months

Monday 30th September
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FocusRS3 said:
Depreciation , warranty and general maintenance on these cars is atrocious hence why they are a tough sell and that Mclaren wont bid for their own cars so don't support their own product.
i'm sure this stuff has been mentioned elsewhere on this thread already.....
Not entirely accurate.

The warranty is expensive - but is comprehensive, far more than many competitors. If you choose to pay for the warranty, I've seen very few posts that suggest general maintenance is atrocious - most people quote service costs of £800 - £1.5k, depending on the type of service. Hardly astronomical for this kind of car.

Depreciation is a much discussed issue - although at the moment, most other cars are suffering from that too.

McLaren make too many cars and push them onto the dealers - so you're right, the dealers generally don't want the cars back because they already have too many to sell, especially if people have part ex'd.

FocusRS3

3,039 posts

38 months

Monday 30th September
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davek_964 said:
Not entirely accurate.

The warranty is expensive - but is comprehensive, far more than many competitors. If you choose to pay for the warranty, I've seen very few posts that suggest general maintenance is atrocious - most people quote service costs of £800 - £1.5k, depending on the type of service. Hardly astronomical for this kind of car.

Depreciation is a much discussed issue - although at the moment, most other cars are suffering from that too.

McLaren make too many cars and push them onto the dealers - so you're right, the dealers generally don't want the cars back because they already have too many to sell, especially if people have part ex'd.
Fair enough and you are right other marques aren't selling either.
That said i know of someone that did a track day in his 650 Spider , cracked a disc and the repair bill post inspection was 12k inclu some tyres.

Now that's atrocious !

davek_964

6,111 posts

122 months

Monday 30th September
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FocusRS3 said:
That said i know of someone that did a track day in his 650 Spider , cracked a disc and the repair bill post inspection was 12k inclu some tyres.
That's a risk with any car that has ceramics though - I doubt Ferrari ceramic discs are cheaper. As I understand it (which is not much!) - that is also one of the problems with ceramics - they might last longer than steel discs, but if they get hit by a stone they'll crack.

I would be a tad upset if it happened to me......

Mcdriveruk

10 posts

2 months

Monday 30th September
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Been looking at these, how do you tell if the ceramics need replacing?

davek_964

6,111 posts

122 months

Monday 30th September
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Don't know if it's true but I searched when I bought mine and it seemed that if the disc is smooth and shiny (and not cracked obviously) then they're good. If they're rough to touch, they're knackered.

FocusRS3

3,039 posts

38 months

Monday 30th September
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davek_964 said:
That's a risk with any car that has ceramics though - I doubt Ferrari ceramic discs are cheaper. As I understand it (which is not much!) - that is also one of the problems with ceramics - they might last longer than steel discs, but if they get hit by a stone they'll crack.

I would be a tad upset if it happened to me......
Porsche are around 4k a corner i gather although i think some can be repaired ?

I know someone that managed to claim on insurance on a 996 Turbo S but then he hadn't been on a track day

MDL111

3,939 posts

124 months

Monday 30th September
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FocusRS3 said:
davek_964 said:
Not entirely accurate.

The warranty is expensive - but is comprehensive, far more than many competitors. If you choose to pay for the warranty, I've seen very few posts that suggest general maintenance is atrocious - most people quote service costs of £800 - £1.5k, depending on the type of service. Hardly astronomical for this kind of car.

Depreciation is a much discussed issue - although at the moment, most other cars are suffering from that too.

McLaren make too many cars and push them onto the dealers - so you're right, the dealers generally don't want the cars back because they already have too many to sell, especially if people have part ex'd.
Fair enough and you are right other marques aren't selling either.
That said i know of someone that did a track day in his 650 Spider , cracked a disc and the repair bill post inspection was 12k inclu some tyres.

Now that's atrocious !
Sounds about what it would be on my Scuderia if I needed new discs (I suspect both discs in that axle had to be replaced)

lingus75

1,603 posts

169 months

Monday 30th September
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TheRecruiter said:
Fair enough - just seems to be a lot of car for the money compared to the other sub-£100k 650s'.

It does make me wonder why it's for sale at a Sytner Select rather than as an approved Mclaren car.
When I was buying a 911 turbo, the cars at Sytner select tended to be those which were too expensive to bring up to manufacturer standards.

355spiderguy

611 posts

118 months

Monday 30th September
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davek_964 said:
Don't know if it's true but I searched when I bought mine and it seemed that if the disc is smooth and shiny (and not cracked obviously) then they're good. If they're rough to touch, they're knackered.
Yup...thats what McLaren Glasgow told me.

Regards depreciation, i know someone whom bought a 2017 Performante less than a year ago and currently trying to sell for £40k less than purchase...trying being the important word.

Almost every 'supercar' is hard to sell at the moment and depreciation is a huge factor....both of these issues, contrary to current belief, are not McLaren specific.

TheRecruiter

18 posts

69 months

Monday 30th September
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lingus75 said:
When I was buying a 911 turbo, the cars at Sytner select tended to be those which were too expensive to bring up to manufacturer standards.
Yeah, that's my fear!

I have noticed that the 'supercar' market is a bit stagnant - I've been watching R8 V10 Plus' for the last 3 months and there are a good number that haven't shifted! Makes you wonder how welcome a cheeky offer would be!

Mcdriveruk

10 posts

2 months

Monday 30th September
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davek_964 said:
Don't know if it's true but I searched when I bought mine and it seemed that if the disc is smooth and shiny (and not cracked obviously) then they're good. If they're rough to touch, they're knackered.
Cheers!

GT4RS

Original Poster:

1,965 posts

144 months

Wednesday 2nd October
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TheRecruiter said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Hello - had a scan through this thread, and some good info been posted about.

I'm currently considering a change from to an R8 V10 Plus, or something like the above 650s.

This 650S seems suspiciously 'cheap' - is it an ex press car? How daft would I be to be shoving 10k mile pa onto something like this?
Interesting, this car was apparently sold a few weeks back but now up for sale again. The buyer must of pulled out for whatever reason.

What ever you bid on it you need to include a Mclaren inspection and years Mclaren warranty.