97K Mile, £30k - £50k estimate MP$-12C

97K Mile, £30k - £50k estimate MP$-12C

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WCZ

10,536 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2019
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Bispal said:
I've bought plenty of cars that 'might' just need a little bit of work. Buy the cheapest as the most expensive might still need work doing, used to be my mantra. After getting my fingers (and wallet) burnt far too often I have changed my view. There is no way I would buy this car. Even if you were lucky and it only cost you £20k to put right you would still only be £15K away from one with 20% of the mileage and in much better condition. Its just not worth it!
people pay £600-900 a day to rent out a 12c and a diesel golf is £30k these days though!

Never you mind

1,507 posts

113 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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Anyone know what this went for in the end?

MG511

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1,754 posts

242 months

Friday 25th January 2019
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Never you mind said:
Anyone know what this went for in the end?
The auction is tomorrow, Saturday 26th.

thegreenhell

15,389 posts

220 months

Saturday 26th January 2019
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I heard £56k plus fees, so about £60k all in.

AyBee

10,535 posts

203 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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People are mental! £60k is a crazy amount for that when you can get one with a third of the mileage, proven history, and eligible for warranty for £20k more!

cat with a hat

1,484 posts

119 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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AyBee said:
People are mental! £60k is a crazy amount for that when you can get one with a third of the mileage, proven history, and eligible for warranty for £20k more!
"cheap mclaren init"

yeah at 60k, you're better off spending 15-20k and getting one that is well looked after, has a much higher resale value and it covered if anything goes wrong.

tyrrell

1,670 posts

209 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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People love to think they are getting a bargain though.

likesachange

2,631 posts

195 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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That is mental! Be good to see where it goes and how they get on tho.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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isaldiri said:
MrC986 said:
If you read the reported service history, it's not seen a main dealer for 35k miles which would surely put off 99.9% of those interested, even if it was a very cheap car...
^ this. You would have to be slightly or more than slightly crazy to buy this car.
Serious question, what makes it so hard to change the oil filter , oil etc. that only a Mclaren dealer can do it?!

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

131 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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Just because it’s not seen a main dealer doesn’t mean it hasn’t been serviced

My sisters partner works for one of these track day things. And after each event the cars get new oil and filters, coolent and brakes checked every event etc etc

If a car made for hard driving can’t handle it then what’s the point? They tend to do 3 laps 10 times a day, not normally flat out either.

isaldiri

18,604 posts

169 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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xjay1337 said:
Serious question, what makes it so hard to change the oil filter , oil etc. that only a Mclaren dealer can do it?!
Nothing but can you be sure it has actually been done at all elsewhere? If the car had a sheaf of receipts from Thorney or Backdraft then fair enough. It seemed to simply have no documented service or maintenance done for 3+ years. And especially if the car was an ex trackday hire/experience car, even with perfect servicing records I'd likely think twice due to my own personal experience with my 12c.

Edited by isaldiri on Sunday 27th January 19:21

GregorFuk

563 posts

201 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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AyBee said:
People are mental! £60k is a crazy amount for that when you can get one with a third of the mileage, proven history, and eligible for warranty for £20k more!
LOL you say that like £20K is chump change. First barrier to spending an additional £20k is having the funds in the first place.

MDL111

6,962 posts

178 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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GregorFuk said:
AyBee said:
People are mental! £60k is a crazy amount for that when you can get one with a third of the mileage, proven history, and eligible for warranty for £20k more!
LOL you say that like £20K is chump change. First barrier to spending an additional £20k is having the funds in the first place.
he has a point though given you supposedly can easily run up 20k in repairs on these - then you have a car in the workshop and are still 20k down. probably not the car to buy if you dont have the 20k and/or are not able to rectify issues yourself - then it is a pretty big gamble

Matty3

1,180 posts

85 months

Sunday 27th January 2019
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Auctions can be a rather strange experience - buyer will have convinced himself he has bagged a bargain - maybe he has?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

119 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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isaldiri said:
xjay1337 said:
Serious question, what makes it so hard to change the oil filter , oil etc. that only a Mclaren dealer can do it?!
Nothing but can you be sure it has actually been done at all elsewhere? If the car had a sheaf of receipts from Thorney or Backdraft then fair enough. It seemed to simply have no documented service or maintenance done for 3+ years. And especially if the car was an ex trackday hire/experience car, even with perfect servicing records I'd likely think twice due to my own personal experience with my 12c.

Edited by isaldiri on Sunday 27th January 19:21
Again just because it says Mclaren on the top of the servicing invoice, doesn't mean it's any better than a passionate independant.
Doubt it will have been serviced at your local tyre shop.......................

At the end of the day it's significantly cheaper than the other cars, worth the risk to someone :-)

AyBee

10,535 posts

203 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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GregorFuk said:
AyBee said:
People are mental! £60k is a crazy amount for that when you can get one with a third of the mileage, proven history, and eligible for warranty for £20k more!
LOL you say that like £20K is chump change. First barrier to spending an additional £20k is having the funds in the first place.
It is when the gearbox/[insert other expensive component here] lets go. I might have taken a punt at £25/30k where a big bill still stands you at less than a fully serviced 12C, but this could easily eat up £20k given the faults reported (dashboard lights, no servicing record for 3 years), and even if it doesn't cost you £20k during your ownership, good luck getting rid of it without losing a chunk too.

This is £84k (before haggling), full McLaren service history and 35k miles. I know where my money would be going on a total cost of ownership basis.

isaldiri

18,604 posts

169 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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xjay1337 said:
Again just because it says Mclaren on the top of the servicing invoice, doesn't mean it's any better than a passionate independant.
Doubt it will have been serviced at your local tyre shop.......................
I didn't disagree that a good independent could do at least as good a job as a Mclaren main dealer did I? My issue with that car was that the service history was nonexistent for 3 years whether or not from your local tyre shop and not that it didn't have 'full Mclaren service history'.

RobDown

3,803 posts

129 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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That’s the beauty of auctions. You get 2 guys in the room (who probably don’t know what they’re getting into) and you get an inflated price

You get a great car in a room where only one serious buyer is present and you can get a bargain

On the face of it the price looks mad. Unless it’s some You-Tuber who wants to do it up on film? In which case the “value” comes from a different route