The £90k 570S has arrived - bargain of the year?
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Never you mind said:
Try a RWD Gallardo. Just as quick 0 - 60, lighter as well (1350KG(?)) and the steering has bags of feel as it's not 4WD. Oh and the noise, my god the noise is epic.
Wouldn't mind a go in a 570 though just to see what all the fuss is about. However if I turn up at Mc Leeds I doubt I would get a test drive. I just don't look like the normal high end car buyer.
FWIW, my most recent point of reference is a Huracan 580-2 which is quoted to be just as quick but didn't feel it. I remember trying a 4wd Gallardo years ago, but went for a V12 Vantage instead. The Aston is heavier, but felt so much more lively - and sounded even better. I still have it but don't drive it much since I've got a Mac.Wouldn't mind a go in a 570 though just to see what all the fuss is about. However if I turn up at Mc Leeds I doubt I would get a test drive. I just don't look like the normal high end car buyer.
Hope you get your test drive - but don't do it unless you're ready to buy!
12pack said:
Superleg48 said:
Lol. Heavy and slow...
LP560-4: 0-60 3.7s / 202mph / 1500kgs
570S 0-60 3.1s / 205mph / 1344kgs
These are tiny tiny differences which in the real world make bugger all difference. 0.6s is barely a blink of an eye. Technically you are correct though....if you are playing Top Trumps.
I accept the 570S is probably the better drive though.
The Gallardo is a great car - great engine - and its certainly not about the numbers. Its about how the Mac fells - the steering, the agility, the top end punch - just in a different league. LP560-4: 0-60 3.7s / 202mph / 1500kgs
570S 0-60 3.1s / 205mph / 1344kgs
These are tiny tiny differences which in the real world make bugger all difference. 0.6s is barely a blink of an eye. Technically you are correct though....if you are playing Top Trumps.
I accept the 570S is probably the better drive though.
In a world going hybrid/EV ( and electric steering), this may be one of the last great (relatively) light-weight, mid-engined, feelsome mainstream models.
Targarama said:
Any McLaren owner will tell you that McLarens seem to gain an extra lung (full boost?) once into third gear and get quicker and quicker. So 0-60 is not a real measure anyway. Try one, then you'll realise.
I agree with that. The mid to high range is astonishing. If you watch many of the drag races online, the 720 doesn't get off the line as quick as something like a 4wd Lambo, but once it’s going, the Lambo's are smoked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nataVD3aqFc
mickpsu said:
Targarama said:
Any McLaren owner will tell you that McLarens seem to gain an extra lung (full boost?) once into third gear and get quicker and quicker. So 0-60 is not a real measure anyway. Try one, then you'll realise.
I agree with that. The mid to high range is astonishing. If you watch many of the drag races online, the 720 doesn't get off the line as quick as something like a 4wd Lambo, but once it’s going, the Lambo's are smoked.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nataVD3aqFc
Targarama said:
I'd wager the Performante is about the same straight line once rolling as a 570. 720 is on another planet. My next supercar...
This is more of an appropriate comparision > https://uk.motor1.com/news/337310/watch-the-mclare...A little off topic but there is a tuned 570s at vmax vs the new M5 with a tune (15 mins in) rather astonishing.. bearing in mind a new M5 can now be picked up for circa 70k.... luckily for the M5 there are no corners at Vmax 
https://youtu.be/2DBzvS6nUUE
https://youtu.be/2DBzvS6nUUE
Edited by likesachange on Tuesday 16th April 12:09
likesachange said:
A little off topic but there is a tuned 570s at vmax vs the new M5 with a tune (15 mins in) rather astonishing.. bearing in mind a new M5 can now be picked up for circa 70k.... luckily for the M5 there are no corners at Vmax
https://youtu.be/2DBzvS6nUUE
I've just changed my R8 V10+ for a 570S and as it happens, my wifes car is a new M5 Competition. https://youtu.be/2DBzvS6nUUE
Edited by likesachange on Tuesday 16th April 12:09
The R8 and 570S have very similar performance, although the R8 needs to be kept between 6.5k - 8.5k revs just to stay with the McLaren so arguably, that makes the McLaren faster most of the time.
But stock for stock, the M5 is easily up there with them; it's an astonishingly quick car and whilst it doesn't glide over the road like a McLaren (or even R8) due to having to contain a chunk of weight, I can't help but be impressed with how good the dynamics are, even against pukka sports cars.
All great cars in their own way; sadly the R8 is being collected tomorrow.
I probably won't miss it too much though (well, apart from the spectacular powertrain); very happy with the new arrival...
I had intended to buy at the lower end of the market, maybe not as cheap as the subject of this thread, but in the lower quartile. But then creep set in as I suddenly 'needed' a 2018 car and certain bits and bobs, then I saw this colour combo....and now I'm staring into the abysss of unspeakable depreciation
Best put that to the back of my mind and enjoy it eh!Never you mind said:
Wouldn't mind a go in a 570 though just to see what all the fuss is about. However if I turn up at Mc Leeds I doubt I would get a test drive. I just don't look like the normal high end car buyer.
I'm not sure what a typical high end buyer looks like, but I suspect I am not one either! Don't let that put you off...if your behaviours are appropriate then they should treat you seriously. That said, whilst I had no problem getting a test drive, I did insist on an unaccompanied extended test drive. I'm used to Porsche, BMW, even Aston chucking me the keys to try cars (but then these are local dealers who know me well) but McLaren were not happy about doing this. I wasn't budging on this red line of mine so in the end we reached an agreement and it all worked out fine, but I was surprised how alien this concept seemed to the dealer....do people not generally ask for this?
Edited by Palmball on Wednesday 17th April 01:38
Yes don't know why, likely driven by low sales, they do not tend to give you a demo for few hrs.
I suspect they fear people can just borrow it to show off and then bring it back.
Agree it puts down potential buyers who need to try the car before even thinking of buying it.
I managed at the end to get an accompanied test drive c. 45 mins which gave me a good idea about the car.
Put down anyway by high depreciation and poor dealer experience overall, car is amazing in many ways.
I suspect they fear people can just borrow it to show off and then bring it back.
Agree it puts down potential buyers who need to try the car before even thinking of buying it.
I managed at the end to get an accompanied test drive c. 45 mins which gave me a good idea about the car.
Put down anyway by high depreciation and poor dealer experience overall, car is amazing in many ways.
Yes don't know why, likely driven by low sales, they do not tend to give you a demo for few hrs.
I suspect they fear people can just borrow it to show off and then bring it back.
Agree it puts down potential buyers who need to try the car before even thinking of buying it.
I managed at the end to get an accompanied test drive c. 45 mins which gave me a good idea about the car.
Put down anyway by high depreciation and poor dealer experience overall, car is amazing in many ways.
I suspect they fear people can just borrow it to show off and then bring it back.
Agree it puts down potential buyers who need to try the car before even thinking of buying it.
I managed at the end to get an accompanied test drive c. 45 mins which gave me a good idea about the car.
Put down anyway by high depreciation and poor dealer experience overall, car is amazing in many ways.
RSbandit said:
Assuming the reliability of the 570S remains reasonable surely these will never go much below 60k, its a Mclaren after all...V10 R8s have found a level at 50k even the 12c which surely was much more problematic than the 570 seems to have stabilized in the low/mid 70's.
not that I particularly care, but wasn't the 12C quite a bit higher 12-18 months ago, therefore not sure we can say it has stabilised yet. and that blue is indeed amazing - congrats on the car (M5 looks great too)
That looks a fantastic spec - congratulations! Well worth forking out a bit more for a car you really like rather than compromising on something you may not be 100% happy with. Although I appreciate that initially looking at the bottom end of the market is an essential part of man maths ...
MDL111 said:
not that I particularly care, but wasn't the 12C quite a bit higher 12-18 months ago, therefore not sure we can say it has stabilised yet.
and that blue is indeed amazing - congrats on the car (M5 looks great too)
OK perhaps it's too early to say on the 12c but my understanding is the 570 has been a much better product than the early car so that must be a factor, many owners have had pretty much trouble free ownership experiences despite the forum hysteria to the contrary.and that blue is indeed amazing - congrats on the car (M5 looks great too)
RSbandit said:
That didn't last long at 90k anyone on here??
Yup was me that bought it. Was looking for a good 12C and saw this at £90k as an approved car + 1 years Mac warranty and decided that although the mileage was up a bit it was good value. Bought it unseen at a decent level below the advertised price incl covered trailer delivery from Glasgow to near Bournemouth and it arrives on Saturday so just a tad excited.
Hopefully it will retain a good % of it's price over the next few years, I'll be only adding about 3-4k per year.
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