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Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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RBT0 said:
Very likely press cars and pre production cars part of McLaren fleet. Not customer cars.
Check your email - happy to expand on it if you want!

r o n n i e

366 posts

177 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Poppiecock said:
LotusJas said:
But they don't go to MTC for servicing?

And first fill will be on the production line, not outside a couple of miles down the road. I don't believe new cars leave MTC under their own power.
Cars come down the road on trade plates, still covered in their protective tape and wrap and get filled up.

Other cars come in and they take photos of the fuel being put in, so it goes into the service history.
You are saying Mclaren send 1,000s of cars every year down to the local Shell as part of their production process?

Hope they get a trade discount.

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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r o n n i e said:
You are saying Mclaren send 1,000s of cars every year down to the local Shell as part of their production process?

Hope they get a trade discount.
Couple of dozen a day. Every day.

cuprabob

14,681 posts

215 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Poppiecock said:
r o n n i e said:
You are saying Mclaren send 1,000s of cars every year down to the local Shell as part of their production process?

Hope they get a trade discount.
Couple of dozen a day. Every day.
Who gets the Shell points?

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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cuprabob said:
Who gets the Shell points?
Don't quote me on this, but I think they were done as a charity donation until the new app launched - but now the drivers all have the app. Mostly because they save money on their coffee!

r o n n i e

366 posts

177 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Poppiecock said:
Couple of dozen a day. Every day.
Very interesting. Thank you.

RBT0

1,476 posts

120 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Poppiecock said:
RBT0 said:
Very likely press cars and pre production cars part of McLaren fleet. Not customer cars.
Check your email - happy to expand on it if you want!
Yes read your pm.

Honestly, it’s again every sensible rule of lean manufacturing, sending drivers to the pump station to fill customer cars.

What you see are fleet cars, own by McLaren.

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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RBT0 said:
Yes read your pm.

Honestly, it’s again every sensible rule of lean manufacturing, sending drivers to the pump station to fill customer cars.

What you see are fleet cars, own by McLaren.
Seriously, how many have they got? It really is a couple of dozen cars a day. A mix of registered cars and cars in their delivery wrapping on trade plates.

I believe they have a real world road test and a fill of fuel before being sent out for delivery.

Even asked a driver why he was taking a photo of the nozzle in the tank - he said it was a customer car and it was requested for the history file.

pingu393

7,826 posts

206 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Would a dozen fill-ups per day justify the expense of the H+S requirements, pump maintenance, manufacturing infrastructure and logistics to run your own filling station when there is one just down the road?

I'm sure McLaren have done the maths and come to the right conclusion for their needs.

HJG

466 posts

108 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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The cars go on a local shakedown and use the Shell petrol stations down the road from MTC to fill up.

Around 20 cars per day are built at McLaren. The locals get to see a lot of them!


RBT0

1,476 posts

120 months

Friday 30th August 2019
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Very surprised if every single car going to a customer goes through the filling at the pump.

It’s pure inefficiency, even formula one filling method would work better for them.

Happy to be told differently.

pingu393

7,826 posts

206 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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I estimate £20k pa in wages to fill up (10 minutes per car, £25ph wages, 20 cars/day, 5 days/wk, 52 wks/yr).

If they cut the filling time down to 5 minutes per car, could they run a filling station in the factory for £10k pa? I doubt it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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HJG said:
The cars go on a local shakedown and use the Shell petrol stations down the road from MTC to fill up.

Around 20 cars per day are built at McLaren. The locals get to see a lot of them!
+1.

My nephew lives very close to the MTC, so close he takes his dog for a walk in the grounds by the lake. He sees many Macs on a daily basis being filled up at this petrol station.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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RBT0 said:
This is pure sci fi theory!

Cars get filled in plant, not tested outside nor filled on petrol station. It would be a hell of a job.
I was at the MTC in June as part of a MOC UK organised visit. Was told by the guide when being shown the assembly plant area that every car is sent for a real world road test as soon as it comes off the production line. I was very surprised.


Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 31st August 04:03

TB993tt

2,032 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Poppiecock said:
cuprabob said:
Who gets the Shell points?
Don't quote me on this, but I think they were done as a charity donation until the new app launched - but now the drivers all have the app. Mostly because they save money on their coffee!
Any reasonably sized fuel buyer has a Platts pricing agreement with Shell for their fuel cards, there are no promos available for fuel purchased no points, coffee or cheap toy cars.

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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TB993tt said:
Any reasonably sized fuel buyer has a Platts pricing agreement with Shell for their fuel cards, there are no promos available for fuel purchased no points, coffee or cheap toy cars.
Incorrect!

That was only for commercial transport cards.

And since the end of Drivers’ Club, everyone can get the benefit of the app.

RBT0

1,476 posts

120 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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MAC 720S said:
RBT0 said:
This is pure sci fi theory!

Cars get filled in plant, not tested outside nor filled on petrol station. It would be a hell of a job.
I was at the MTC in June as part of a MOC UK organised visit. Was told by the guide when being shown the assembly plant area that every car is sent for a real world road test as soon as it comes off the production line. I was very surprised.


Edited by MAC 720S on Saturday 31st August 04:03
As said, very surprised and happy to be demonstrated I am wrong. smile

TB993tt

2,032 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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Poppiecock said:
Incorrect!

That was only for commercial transport cards.

And since the end of Drivers’ Club, everyone can get the benefit of the app.
If I can buy all fuel at non pump rates (and forego the promos for my employees) I would hope that Mclaren are doing the same.

RBT0

1,476 posts

120 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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pingu393 said:
I estimate £20k pa in wages to fill up (10 minutes per car, £25ph wages, 20 cars/day, 5 days/wk, 52 wks/yr).

If they cut the filling time down to 5 minutes per car, could they run a filling station in the factory for £10k pa? I doubt it.
I am sure cars get filled with a minimum qty on the manufacturing line before going out to the pump, no fuel tanks are shipped by suppliers with fuel inside. smile

Unless brand new McLarens run with air rather than petrol?

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Saturday 31st August 2019
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TB993tt said:
If I can buy all fuel at non pump rates (and forego the promos for my employees) I would hope that Mclaren are doing the same.
You could get Platts pricing but still have Drivers’ Club eligibility, or you could have A Commercial Road Transport deal without Drivers’ Club eligibility.

However, since the launch of the new Go+ app, ALL card holders get rewards.