What was the on the road price of 600LT’s
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Desert Dragon said:
moonigan said:
MAC 720S said:
You don’t stand a chance rejecting it for cosmetic issues which could easily be sorted by the dealer. You have to give them reasonable opportunity to correct it. Be mindful that these forums are monitored by McLaren and dealers
If you bought a brand new Sony £2000 flat screen tv from John Lewis and the bezel was scratched when you unpacked it would you take it back and ask for a replacement or would you just suck it up and accept it?If you did decide to take it back who would you expect to replace it/refund you. Sony or John Lewis?
Now explain how this is different for a product that costs 100 times the price of the Sony TV.
Upon collection, i noticed the electric tailgate shut out of alignment, 3 decent scratches and a couple of light scuffs on the front bumper.
It was a 14 week order time to my spec, so i let the dealer sort it out before getting excited.
4 days later it was ready for collection looking perfect.
It seems a given that lots of owners have their new Ferrari, Porsches etc collected from the dealer and have them detailed then ppf'd etc as the paint finish is full of swirls and defects from the factory.
Sound like a poor polish job that could easily be rectified by someone whom knows what they are doing.
To the best of my knowledge i thought it had to be unfit for purpose to reject rather than a cosmetic issue that can be very easily rectified.
At no point in this or your other thread have you mentioned corrosion until a post or 2 back; is that the actual case on a car less than 8 weeks old?
Your contribution to this thread shall no doubt encourage the usual mob to pitch up and give their tuppence worth input on how crap McLaren are based on a car that needs a day or 2 with a detailer.
Expect a knock on the door from Jayemm any day now requesting to make another masterpiece on McLaren based on your experiences.
I've seen a report last week on a 600LT bought from new with del miles after circa 1-2k miles. Report from Mcl Hatfield highlights issues which really should not be present on a new car. Radio module, gearbox module, leaking dampers all need replacing but on the damper all they will do is wipe it down and see if the leak reoccurs. Fine all v.sensible as a ball ache to replace damper but you know the car will have to go back for the damper again in due course. Customers already been without the 600LT for the last few weeks he only bought a week or so before lock down. Not good enough at any price point let alone £236k. I reckon the car will have been off the road 3-4 weeks may be more by the time they fix radio module and gearbox module. Then however long when the the car inevitably goes back for new damper. A new ground hog day experience starting for a new Mcl customer but the same naysayers just talking nonsense nothing to see here jog on. Any issues from the lunatic asylum with what I've accurately reported PM me and I'll flick on the vid report. No one can say the above experience acceptable. Friend not saying so to them what can he say really that past customers have not said but he's understandably annoyed. He wants to drive his new car and this is his only fun car.
IMI A said:
I've seen a report last week on a 600LT bought from new with del miles after circa 1-2k miles. Report from Mcl Hatfield highlights issues which really should not be present on a new car. Radio module, gearbox module, leaking dampers all need replacing but on the damper all they will do is wipe it down and see if the leak reoccurs. Fine all v.sensible as a ball ache to replace damper but you know the car will have to go back for the damper again in due course. Customers already been without the 600LT for the last few weeks he only bought a week or so before lock down. Not good enough at any price point let alone £236k. I reckon the car will have been off the road 3-4 weeks may be more by the time they fix radio module and gearbox module. Then however long when the the car inevitably goes back for new damper. A new ground hog day experience starting for a new Mcl customer but the same naysayers just talking nonsense nothing to see here jog on. Any issues from the lunatic asylum with what I've accurately reported PM me and I'll flick on the vid report. No one can say the above experience acceptable. Friend not saying so to them what can he say really that past customers have not said but he's understandably annoyed. He wants to drive his new car and this is his only fun car.
My old RS4 had a couple of minor damper leaks flagged up at a service - Audi replaced them there and then under warranty without question (although they had the car a few days while the parts arrived from Germany). This was a £60K two year old car with a five-figure mileage. To not have the same service on a nearly new car costing four times as much is rediculous! Once they start to leak, they'll only get worse as everyone knows. The leaking dampers would be an MoT failure further down the line as well.Just replace the bloody things and save everyone further hassle!IMI A said:
I've seen a report last week on a 600LT bought from new with del miles after circa 1-2k miles. Report from Mcl Hatfield highlights issues which really should not be present on a new car. Radio module, gearbox module, leaking dampers all need replacing but on the damper all they will do is wipe it down and see if the leak reoccurs. Fine all v.sensible as a ball ache to replace damper but you know the car will have to go back for the damper again in due course. Customers already been without the 600LT for the last few weeks he only bought a week or so before lock down. Not good enough at any price point let alone £236k. I reckon the car will have been off the road 3-4 weeks may be more by the time they fix radio module and gearbox module. Then however long when the the car inevitably goes back for new damper. A new ground hog day experience starting for a new Mcl customer but the same naysayers just talking nonsense nothing to see here jog on. Any issues from the lunatic asylum with what I've accurately reported PM me and I'll flick on the vid report. No one can say the above experience acceptable. Friend not saying so to them what can he say really that past customers have not said but he's understandably annoyed. He wants to drive his new car and this is his only fun car.
Who are you characterising as 'the lunatic asylum'? The same people you class as naysayers?If so, nice touch.
As soon as a poster reverts to name calling or insults, their credibility has been lost.
What is groundhog day, is a McLaren thread about a certain topic being turned into another 'McLaren is crap' thread by others.
650spider said:
To the best of my knowledge i thought it had to be unfit for purpose to reject rather than a cosmetic issue that can be very easily rectified.
"be of satisfactory quality." is the exact term and fitness for purpose is one sub category as is appearance and finish and freedom from minor defects.650spider said:
IMI A said:
I've seen a report last week on a 600LT bought from new with del miles after circa 1-2k miles. Report from Mcl Hatfield highlights issues which really should not be present on a new car. Radio module, gearbox module, leaking dampers all need replacing but on the damper all they will do is wipe it down and see if the leak reoccurs. Fine all v.sensible as a ball ache to replace damper but you know the car will have to go back for the damper again in due course. Customers already been without the 600LT for the last few weeks he only bought a week or so before lock down. Not good enough at any price point let alone £236k. I reckon the car will have been off the road 3-4 weeks may be more by the time they fix radio module and gearbox module. Then however long when the the car inevitably goes back for new damper. A new ground hog day experience starting for a new Mcl customer but the same naysayers just talking nonsense nothing to see here jog on. Any issues from the lunatic asylum with what I've accurately reported PM me and I'll flick on the vid report. No one can say the above experience acceptable. Friend not saying so to them what can he say really that past customers have not said but he's understandably annoyed. He wants to drive his new car and this is his only fun car.
Who are you characterising as 'the lunatic asylum'? The same people you class as naysayers?If so, nice touch.
As soon as a poster reverts to name calling or insults, their credibility has been lost.
What is groundhog day, is a McLaren thread about a certain topic being turned into another 'McLaren is crap' thread by others.
IMI A said:
650spider said:
IMI A said:
I've seen a report last week on a 600LT bought from new with del miles after circa 1-2k miles. Report from Mcl Hatfield highlights issues which really should not be present on a new car. Radio module, gearbox module, leaking dampers all need replacing but on the damper all they will do is wipe it down and see if the leak reoccurs. Fine all v.sensible as a ball ache to replace damper but you know the car will have to go back for the damper again in due course. Customers already been without the 600LT for the last few weeks he only bought a week or so before lock down. Not good enough at any price point let alone £236k. I reckon the car will have been off the road 3-4 weeks may be more by the time they fix radio module and gearbox module. Then however long when the the car inevitably goes back for new damper. A new ground hog day experience starting for a new Mcl customer but the same naysayers just talking nonsense nothing to see here jog on. Any issues from the lunatic asylum with what I've accurately reported PM me and I'll flick on the vid report. No one can say the above experience acceptable. Friend not saying so to them what can he say really that past customers have not said but he's understandably annoyed. He wants to drive his new car and this is his only fun car.
Who are you characterising as 'the lunatic asylum'? The same people you class as naysayers?If so, nice touch.
As soon as a poster reverts to name calling or insults, their credibility has been lost.
What is groundhog day, is a McLaren thread about a certain topic being turned into another 'McLaren is crap' thread by others.
moonigan said:
If you bought a brand new Sony £2000 flat screen tv from John Lewis and the bezel was scratched when you unpacked it would you take it back and ask for a replacement or would you just suck it up and accept it?
If you did decide to take it back who would you expect to replace it/refund you. Sony or John Lewis?
Now explain how this is different for a product that costs 100 times the price of the Sony TV.
Because, it is the law. Unlike white goods, the CRA2015 treats vehicles differently. Unless the vehicle has a serious fault, you cannot simply reject it, as anyone would normally do with a Sony TV that has a scratch. The dealer must be given reasonable opportunity to rectify any issues. Like it or not, it is the law.If you did decide to take it back who would you expect to replace it/refund you. Sony or John Lewis?
Now explain how this is different for a product that costs 100 times the price of the Sony TV.
IMI A said:
And who cares if they monitor these sites? Good that they do.
My point is that PETJAM should be mindful. If he plans to reject it, he should be carful not to compromise his position by taking to social media to seek advice from people who have no idea what they are talking about.Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 6th June 18:03
r o n n i e said:
IMI A said:
650spider said:
IMI A said:
I've seen a report last week on a 600LT bought from new with del miles after circa 1-2k miles. Report from Mcl Hatfield highlights issues which really should not be present on a new car. Radio module, gearbox module, leaking dampers all need replacing but on the damper all they will do is wipe it down and see if the leak reoccurs. Fine all v.sensible as a ball ache to replace damper but you know the car will have to go back for the damper again in due course. Customers already been without the 600LT for the last few weeks he only bought a week or so before lock down. Not good enough at any price point let alone £236k. I reckon the car will have been off the road 3-4 weeks may be more by the time they fix radio module and gearbox module. Then however long when the the car inevitably goes back for new damper. A new ground hog day experience starting for a new Mcl customer but the same naysayers just talking nonsense nothing to see here jog on. Any issues from the lunatic asylum with what I've accurately reported PM me and I'll flick on the vid report. No one can say the above experience acceptable. Friend not saying so to them what can he say really that past customers have not said but he's understandably annoyed. He wants to drive his new car and this is his only fun car.
Who are you characterising as 'the lunatic asylum'? The same people you class as naysayers?If so, nice touch.
As soon as a poster reverts to name calling or insults, their credibility has been lost.
What is groundhog day, is a McLaren thread about a certain topic being turned into another 'McLaren is crap' thread by others.
MAC 720S said:
IMI A said:
And who cares if they monitor these sites? Good that they do.
My point is that PETJAM should be mindful. If he plans to reject it, he should be carful not to compromise his position by taking to social media to seek advice from people who have no idea what they are talking about.Edited by MAC 720S on Saturday 6th June 18:03
MAC 720S said:
My point is that PETJAM should be mindful. If he plans to reject it, he should be carful not to compromise his position by taking to social media to seek advice from people who have no idea what they are talking about.
I agree in that he's already said way too much on social media which is probably the conclusion he's arrived at..Social media should only be used as a last resort to name and shame to sort issues out.Edited by MAC 720S on Saturday 6th June 18:03
IMI A said:
Look none of the issues are major and my friend is being amazingly cool but who wants to go in and out of a dealership all the time? I'm amazed he's put on 2000 miles through lock down!
If your friend wants to have a good relationship with McHatfield, I don’t think you are doing him any favours by naming and shaming them on here.MAC 720S said:
Because, it is the law. Unlike white goods, the CRA2015 treats vehicles differently. Unless the vehicle has a serious fault, you cannot simply reject it, as anyone would normally do with a Sony TV that has a scratch. The dealer must be given reasonable opportunity to rectify any issues. Like it or not, it is the law.
Lol. You don’t know how wrong you are. There is absolutely no additional provision for cars in CRA2015 other than being able to charge for usage if the car is rejected after 30 days but within the first 6 months. The act states that in the first 30 days you can reject for any fault and get a full refund. A bit of common sense is required but the law is on the side of the consumer. After 30 days and before 6 months you have to give the dealer 1 chance to fix it. moonigan said:
Lol. You don’t know how wrong you are. There is absolutely no additional provision for cars in CRA2015 other than being able to charge for usage if the car is rejected after 30 days but within the first 6 months. The act states that in the first 30 days you can reject for any fault and get a full refund. A bit of common sense is required but the law is on the side of the consumer. After 30 days and before 6 months you have to give the dealer 1 chance to fix it.
Let’s agree to disagree. I have experience in this.I’ll leave this for you to LOL at:
https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/rejecting-a-car/
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 6th June 18:30
IMI A said:
Look none of the issues are major and my friend is being amazingly cool but who wants to go in and out of a dealership all the time? I'm amazed he's put on 2000 miles through lock down!
The dealer will collect and deliver by covered truck so minimises the hassle factor, small gesture but quite significant if you live a way away. Doesn't mean what's happened with his new car is OK but as far as hassle goes, opening the front door and handing your keys to a driver is hardly time consuming. He should also get a decent replacement car too which also softens the blow, insist on a McLaren though and don't accept anything less.I'm half expecting a leaking damper on mine after the few tales on here, if it does they can collect it but only when they can loan me a 720 Spider.
MAC 720S said:
Unlikely rust. It will probably be the well documented corrosion. McLaren will sort it out. I had similar issues on my A8 a few years ago. Google it.
Absolutely spot on - unfortunately, this is a common issue. Typically on the doors and wheel arches. All covered under warranty, yes it is a pain but all will be sorted through your dealer. The good thing is, you can still drive the car whilst the paint is ordered, when it arrives send the car to the dealer.
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