What was the on the road price of 600LT’s

What was the on the road price of 600LT’s

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andrew

9,971 posts

193 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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MAC 720S said:
Because, it is the law. Unlike white goods, the CRA2015 treats vehicles differently. Unless the vehicle has a serious fault, you cannot simply reject it, as anyone would normally do with a Sony TV that has a scratch.
wrong !
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/sectio...

Crazy4557

674 posts

195 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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McLarenGuru said:
Absolutely spot on - unfortunately, this is a common issue. Typically on the doors and wheel arches. All covered under warranty, yes it is a pain but all will be sorted through your dealer.

The good thing is, you can still drive the car whilst the paint is ordered, when it arrives send the car to the dealer.
Have they not fixed this corrosion issue on later cars or are we owners of 2019/2020 cars going to be expecting the same issues?

McLarenGuru

72 posts

47 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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Crazy4557 said:
Have they not fixed this corrosion issue on later cars or are we owners of 2019/2020 cars going to be expecting the same issues?
From my experience within the dealer network - it is very uncommon to have corrosion on the MY19 onwards cars (this is across all models). I myself have never seen corrosion on a 720S or a 600LT. Would be really interested to see the pictures of the ‘corrosion’ on the OPs mates car.

Sport Series and 650S suffered mostly. There is no doubt that it is such a ball ache, however, McLaren are obviously so aware of the situation, it is always sorted. (As You’d expect)

Crazy4557

674 posts

195 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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McLarenGuru said:
From my experience within the dealer network - it is very uncommon to have corrosion on the MY19 onwards cars (this is across all models). I myself have never seen corrosion on a 720S or a 600LT. Would be really interested to see the pictures of the ‘corrosion’ on the OPs mates car.

Sport Series and 650S suffered mostly. There is no doubt that it is such a ball ache, however, McLaren are obviously so aware of the situation, it is always sorted. (As You’d expect)
Thank you for clarifying this, it's as I'd been led to believe, I shan't be looking out for rusting sills now.

TB993tt

2,032 posts

242 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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McLarenGuru said:
I myself have never seen corrosion on a 720S .
Here you go smile


McLarenGuru

72 posts

47 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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TB993tt said:
Here you go smile

Wow ok, thanks for sharing. As I said, I myself had never seen corrosion on a 720S. I take it you’re booked in to repaint the front fender then?

TB993tt

2,032 posts

242 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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McLarenGuru said:
Wow ok, thanks for sharing. As I said, I myself had never seen corrosion on a 720S. I take it you’re booked in to repaint the front fender then?
Yeah, both sides, I thought my service guy said it meant new wings not a repaint ? like you say its no big deal.

moonigan

2,141 posts

242 months

Saturday 6th June 2020
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MAC 720S said:
Let’s agree to disagree. I have experience in this.

Edited by MAC 720S on Saturday 6th June 18:30
Me too! Here is just one of the statements made by dealers, manufacturers who thought they knew the act.

"however the 2 issues you have had previously, outlined in your email below, do not fall under the category of mechanical failure from a xxx point of view. The update is regarded as a software upgrade, which your car may require several of through its life as improvements are made. xxxx do not associate this as a repair but a necessary development in technology."

This was after a fix was applied to the car when the fuel gauge would drop from showing over 1/4 full to bone dry empty without warnin and was an attempt to side step the CRA 2015 when a more serious issue occured. What they were attempting to argue was that CRA 2015 only covers serious mechanical issues. They were wrong as you are.

As I said before a little common sense is required because if you go to court for rejecting a car because the window doesnt go all the way down then the chances are you will lose.

Also if you seek the services of a lawer when rejecting a car I can guarantee you he will not be using an article published on thecarexpert.co.uk to build the case.





IMI A

9,410 posts

202 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Brill vid. You do not need to have german to understand smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeL0uapPyq8


650spider

1,476 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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MAC 720S said:
IMI A said:
Look none of the issues are major and my friend is being amazingly cool but who wants to go in and out of a dealership all the time? I'm amazed he's put on 2000 miles through lock down!
If your friend wants to have a good relationship with McHatfield, I don’t think you are doing him any favours by naming and shaming them on here.
No disrespect, but if your friend is being 'cool' about it, why did you feel the need to come on here and make an issue of it?

As members of the 'lunatic asylum' as you put it, most of us seem to accept that niggles and problems are part of the entry fee into owning a McLaren.

Can it be annoying? A bit, i guess..

However in my experience McLaren do their best to sort out the issues and it seems most owners have the same outlook as say TB993tt and put it down as no real biggie.

No owner is a 'naysayer' as you put it...nobody buys a McLaren on the back of being depreciation proof or being the most reliable cars on the road.

I bought into them as i like how they look, its British made and how the new underdog gave the established supercar makers a bloody nose on inception and still does to this day.

Some owners seem to have had a real bad time and i get why they can be very upset about it; what i don't understand is non owners getting very upset about it.

In the instance of the rejection claim, it seems a huge over reaction to something that can be rectified very easily, and after a dramatic posting about your friends car and offering to share the video report, within a few posts you yourself had reduced it into 'Look none of the issues are major'.

Nobody disputes there are issues...its how as an individual you deal with these issues that is relevant.

A bit like everything in life.





EvoSid

1,102 posts

64 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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petjam said:
I picked one up last week, brand new and riddled with problems. The dealer is being monumentally pathetic.

Has anyone got details of a solicitor who deals with rejecting vehicles?
You have a 30 day cooling off period , just send a letter via your solicitor asking for a full refund. I had to do that once for a Honda. After the letter got my money back in days


RBT0

1,476 posts

120 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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IMI A said:
Brill vid. You do not need to have german to understand smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeL0uapPyq8
Hahahahahaha

It capture the essence of the car, lot of fun.

Those burbling flames.... 0_0

JulierPass

641 posts

231 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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TB993tt said:
McLarenGuru said:
I myself have never seen corrosion on a 720S .
Here you go smile

That's pretty shocking. I don't care if they are rectifying it, if you have to paint a wing, it is near on impossible to get a paint match on these colours and you see it the paint difference in sunlight and under spotlights in a garage.

Rocketreid

626 posts

73 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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JulierPass said:
That's pretty shocking. I don't care if they are rectifying it, if you have to paint a wing, it is near on impossible to get a paint match on these colours and you see it the paint difference in sunlight and under spotlights in a garage.
Most Often the wings are just removed and replaced with new ones from factory all painted .

You would never know !

GT4RS

4,434 posts

198 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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TB993tt said:
McLarenGuru said:
I myself have never seen corrosion on a 720S .
Here you go smile

If that was a car I just bought I would be handing it back in a flash!

That’s shocking

650spider

1,476 posts

172 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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JulierPass said:
That's pretty shocking. I don't care if they are rectifying it, if you have to paint a wing, it is near on impossible to get a paint match on these colours and you see it the paint difference in sunlight and under spotlights in a garage.
No it doesn't.

My car is elite volcano colour and the match was 100% flawless.

Just another incorrect fact that gets posted regularly.



IMI A

9,410 posts

202 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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650spider said:
MAC 720S said:
IMI A said:
Look none of the issues are major and my friend is being amazingly cool but who wants to go in and out of a dealership all the time? I'm amazed he's put on 2000 miles through lock down!
If your friend wants to have a good relationship with McHatfield, I don’t think you are doing him any favours by naming and shaming them on here.
No disrespect, but if your friend is being 'cool' about it, why did you feel the need to come on here and make an issue of it?

As members of the 'lunatic asylum' as you put it, most of us seem to accept that niggles and problems are part of the entry fee into owning a McLaren.

Can it be annoying? A bit, i guess..

However in my experience McLaren do their best to sort out the issues and it seems most owners have the same outlook as say TB993tt and put it down as no real biggie.

No owner is a 'naysayer' as you put it...nobody buys a McLaren on the back of being depreciation proof or being the most reliable cars on the road.

I bought into them as i like how they look, its British made and how the new underdog gave the established supercar makers a bloody nose on inception and still does to this day.

Some owners seem to have had a real bad time and i get why they can be very upset about it; what i don't understand is non owners getting very upset about it.

In the instance of the rejection claim, it seems a huge over reaction to something that can be rectified very easily, and after a dramatic posting about your friends car and offering to share the video report, within a few posts you yourself had reduced it into 'Look none of the issues are major'.

Nobody disputes there are issues...its how as an individual you deal with these issues that is relevant.

A bit like everything in life.
He may be cool with Mcl for now but how long do you think that will last if his car is off the road fro an extended period especially when he only has the car for 24 months?!? There was one of you guys on PH telling us we cannot comment unless we own a Mcl not long ago? And far from it the 600LT owner will be delighted i mention his experience especially if Mcl decide to use their common sense and fix his damper now rather than later after reading this. I can assure you he's not happy but yes being polite just wants his car back.

TB993tt

2,032 posts

242 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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GT4RS said:
If that was a car I just bought I would be handing it back in a flash!

That’s shocking
I bought it new 2 years ago and it's been daily driven in all conditions which probably hasn't helped although I understand it is some kind of aluminium reaction rather than corrosion, lots of shocked incensed people round here, if you own and drive these cars you would literally forgive them anything they are that good biggrin

petjam

489 posts

147 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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petjam said:
I do but I am going to stop posting until this is all rectified.

Thanks for all the advice everyone.
Morning all, just wanted to update this. I successfully rejected the car under the Consumer Rights Act as the car was not of satisfactory quality. McLaren themselves were absolutely woeful and could not care less. In the end I got an independent assessment which was so damning they could no longer hide.

Took nearly 3 months but I got there. To those that sent me private messages with their stories and assistance, thanks.

moonigan

2,141 posts

242 months

Thursday 6th August 2020
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petjam said:
Morning all, just wanted to update this. I successfully rejected the car under the Consumer Rights Act as the car was not of satisfactory quality. McLaren themselves were absolutely woeful and could not care less. In the end I got an independent assessment which was so damning they could no longer hide.

Took nearly 3 months but I got there. To those that sent me private messages with their stories and assistance, thanks.
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